I need to talk about the Victorian People again.

[dowagercountess]

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/victorian-garden-butchart-formal-wear-costumes-rules-1.3723106

I came across this article, which led me to their blog again, and the thing I can't get past is that I don't believe that people treat them as bad as they say they do. There's one post where she says people reach out and grab her ass, and that she has to stand against a wall or people will assault her. I just don't believe it. 

[stephm0188]

They're so obnoxious.

[glynn]

Strange...

[cuddlyevil]

My sig pic needs to be repeatedly entered in their comment section.

[Deleted]

Self involved fucking hipsters.

[BaliHai]

I say this in literally every post about them because it's all that ever comes to mind, but GOD I hate these assholes.

[dowagercountess]

"No, we will not take off our hats," I told him, incensed by the demand of physical submission.

The staff had repeatedly denied our own identities, denied that our clothes were real clothes and kept insisting they were costumes; now John Tomlinson was demanding that we play-act being a staff menial all day? And his reason for demanding that we play-act being one of their staff was so that people wouldn't think we were on the staff? Seriously? There were so many different levels of irony and hypocrisy to this I didn't even know where to start.

John Tomlinson cut him off. "Well, I'll give you an example. Just last week we had a couple in and he was dressed as a bumblebee and she was dressed as a ladybug and we told them they couldn't come in that way —but they were more reasonable about it that you're being and they were willing to change clothes!"
He's comparing our lifestyle to people dressed as insects?

[margarita]

These people again?

Hahaha...oh man...

[elleblue]

Insufferable twits.

[Deleted]

"How dare he compare our "lifestyle" of wearing costumes to people who wear costumes! Outrage!"

Fuuuuuccckkkk yyyyoooouuu.

[cuddlyevil]

[meganew]

THOSE ARE COSTUMES. If I wore a fucking tail and shells over my tits it wouldn't make me a mermaid, even if I wore it everyday! It would still just be a costume! You don't live in the Victorian times! Know how I know? BECAUSE YOURE BLOGGING ABOUT IT.

[elleblue]

Aug 19, 2016 14:13:59 GMT -5 dowagercountess said:

"No, we will not take off our hats," I told him, incensed by the demand of physical submission.

The staff had repeatedly denied our own identities, denied that our clothes were real clothes and kept insisting they were costumes; now John Tomlinson was demanding that we play-act being a staff menial all day? And his reason for demanding that we play-act being one of their staff was so that people wouldn't think we were on the staff? Seriously? There were so many different levels of irony and hypocrisy to this I didn't even know where to start.

John Tomlinson cut him off. "Well, I'll give you an example. Just last week we had a couple in and he was dressed as a bumblebee and she was dressed as a ladybug and we told them they couldn't come in that way —but they were more reasonable about it that you're being and they were willing to change clothes!"
He's comparing our lifestyle to people dressed as insects?

Also, this phrasing is extremely off putting. Does Gabriel consider himself a bicycle shop staff menial? 

[junebug]

No matter how much she writes about how amazing her beloved corsets are, I refuse to believe that she is comfortable in those getups every day. I bet she's bitching the entire time she's trying to bend over to empty her icebox drip tray. You can't fool me lady...I know you can't move in that thing! 

[irene adler]

I bet these assholes helped M. Night Shaymalan write the Village.

[junebug]

Aug 19, 2016 14:31:42 GMT -5 meganew said:

THOSE ARE COSTUMES. If I wore a fucking tail and shells over my tits it wouldn't make me a mermaid, even if I wore it everyday! It would still just be a costume! You don't live in the Victorian times! Know how I know? BECAUSE YOURE BLOGGING ABOUT IT.

YES!

I generally feel like when it comes to personal style, be as weird as you want, BUT don't get all indignant when people think you are weird. You are unusual, deal with it, don't bitch because people are curious about it or don't understand it. 

[BillyJoelLover]

Aug 19, 2016 14:44:57 GMT -5 irene adler said:

I bet these assholes helped M. Night Shaymalan write the Village.

Likely an unpopular opinion but I liked that movie

[elleblue]

Aug 19, 2016 15:07:01 GMT -5 @dixiedarling said:

Hold on. How do these people reconcile their lifestyle and blogging?

[cuddlyevil]

Aug 19, 2016 15:07:01 GMT -5 @dixiedarling said:

Hold on. How do these people reconcile their lifestyle and blogging?

They're not savages, duh. Plus, they need to prove they're more hipster than anyone else.

[Que?]

I call 100% bullshit on these fuckknobs. Did they ride their fucking unicycle to Victoria? No, they took a ferry and a free bus and taxi ride out of there. Hypocrite hipster assholes with their bullshit 'lifestyle'.

I also doubt the existence of the sweet Muslim family who applauded their courage and wanted a photo OP. That's just a veiled attempt at comparing their struggle to the hijab. Pun intended. Fuck these people I hate them so much.

[lilafowler]

Fucking tools.

[cleo29]

They are so annoying. I am with the pp about how do they reconcile their use of modern electronics with their "lifestyle" being 100% Victorian.

[jigsy]

Devils advocate - lets pretend that these people aren't total knobs about "living a victorian life" - at what point does dressing in a certain period turn from style choice to costume? Lets say that the garden wouldn't allow a woman wearing a vintage 1930's dress in - or hell, it isn't vintage, it is just a modern day version of a 1930's dress - Would that still be considered costume?

I also get a little annoyed, for no good reason mind you, that the dude would have probably been let in with no issue in that suit, but her dress is a costume.

These people are terrible, and should be banned from everywhere, if only to save the general public from their obnoxiousness.

[onesweetworld]

It's curious to me that Butchart Gardens has that rule in the first place.

I think the couple and the gardens are equally insufferable.

[Deleted]

Aug 19, 2016 16:46:01 GMT -5 jigsy said:

Devils advocate - lets pretend that these people aren't total knobs about "living a victorian life" - at what point does dressing in a certain period turn from style choice to costume? Lets say that the garden wouldn't allow a woman wearing a vintage 1930's dress in - or hell, it isn't vintage, it is just a modern day version of a 1930's dress - Would that still be considered costume?

I also get a little annoyed, for no good reason mind you, that the dude would have probably been let in with no issue in that suit, but her dress is a costume.

These people are terrible, and should be banned from everywhere, if only to save the general public from their obnoxiousness.

I was wondering about the Amish or Mennonites. It's basically the same "costume" minus the corseted top. I need to know about these gardens because I really don't understand the point of this rule, or why there would otherwise be hoards of people showing up in costumes.

[Alex]

The main point for me in this particular incident is that their "costumes" do pose a safety risk. The Gardens are an old cement quarry. She could have easily tripped in multiple areas.

They also would have been a distraction to other guests. Some would have thought that they were a part of the Gardens and wanted pictures. I'm sure the Victorians would have loved that but it's not exactly the vibe Butchart's is going for.
They are super strict. Employees can't even wear sunglasses when walking from the staff parking lot. Or chew gum. Or have their hands in their pockets. They work hard to create the atmosphere they want.
(Worked there in high school, my sister is in upper management).

[hopecounts]

Aug 19, 2016 16:57:26 GMT -5 papiercherri said:

Aug 19, 2016 16:46:01 GMT -5 jigsy said:

Devils advocate - lets pretend that these people aren't total knobs about "living a victorian life" - at what point does dressing in a certain period turn from style choice to costume? Lets say that the garden wouldn't allow a woman wearing a vintage 1930's dress in - or hell, it isn't vintage, it is just a modern day version of a 1930's dress - Would that still be considered costume?

I also get a little annoyed, for no good reason mind you, that the dude would have probably been let in with no issue in that suit, but her dress is a costume.

These people are terrible, and should be banned from everywhere, if only to save the general public from their obnoxiousness.

I was wondering about the Amish or Mennonites. It's basically the same "costume" minus the corseted top. I need to know about these gardens because I really don't understand the point of this rule, or why there would otherwise be hoards of people showing up in costumes.

Canada has religious protections so
I would guess they would be exempt from the rule via that and the Garden would allow it.
These people are not dressing from a religious belief but for attention.
This is fairly typical Amish dress which differs form Victorian Dress significantly.

[10nille]

I'm always just surprised when two people like that find each other.

If there are sides to be picked I'm on Team Butchart's Garden. It wouldn't shock me they wanted the publicity for their blog.

[mrsjuleshs]

I read that yesterday. They are exhausting. Hey all Victorian era but we still have a truck and a blog. They are not that interesting.

[nicbreeful]

I wonder what these people would do if they were required to be somewhere that they need to dress appropriately for.. Like jury duty?