I had never really thought about the fact that there are never cart corrals near the handicap spaces. I've never judged carts there, though. I just grab one if there's a lose cart and take it inside. It seems like lots of other people do the same thing.
When we have non-quarter carts I purposefully leave them by handicap spaces. Mr. has a much easier time wheeling the cart into the store rather than using his cane. I often see others picking up a cart we just dropped off and we frequently pick them up from there as well.
It never occurred to me to judge someone for not returning their cart. Obviously, if someone just dumps their cart carelessly in a way that can roll around and compromise safety or damage property then they are jerks. But if you stick it in between parking spots and secure it a bit? Meh, the next person can just grab it on the way in. Maybe I haven't seen these empty parking lots that people speak of. Lots are pretty full at the times we shop.
I think this problem could be solved and convenience introduced all around if there was a reliable way to "dock" a cart near more parking spaces. Easier for those coming in who need a cart, easier to drop off, easier on store employees.
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There's no way to put a cart in between parking spaces that makes it easy to park and/or get the cart out without scraping a window or bonking into the car. Just put it back!
I also judge pee on the seat, because this is also not that hard to figure out.
Yeah, I'm laughing that "securely" putting a cart between spaces is the preferred method. I *hate* when people do that.
Perhaps people are taking the carts in because they don't want to leave them where they can blow into other cars? Because people here JUST SAID that they'll take in loose carts if they see them so they don't hit cars, etc.
I always return my carts. I worked grocery retail for ten years. The place I worked did have dedicated staff to return the carts, but they do not need extra work. On busy days we would have to round up additional people to make sure we had between 10-20 carts near the door. We had over 400 carts so there was plenty of work. The PLA (parking lot attendants) were tasked with retrieving loose carts first because they can cause damage to card and can lead to lawsuits.
As for leaving them near handicapped spotd, these carts are just as likely to roll and cause damage. Additionally for every person that finds a cart easier for mobility there is another one who has trouble walking around them. We did not have cart corals near them because it was our policy to automatically carryout customers who were most likely to have difficulty including mobilty, children, multiple carts of groceries etc.
I'm never surprised to see things out of place since people can not even be bothered to hand back items that they change their minds about buying. Instead they would bury them in the candy, magazine racks or drink coolers.
Post by RoxMonster on Jun 17, 2017 15:08:19 GMT -5
I absolutely always return my carts. I usually park two spots down from the cart corral on purpose for this reason (I am paranoid about parking right next to it because people are idiots and I don't trust them to not just leave the cart chilling right outside the corral and into my vehicle).
I was at Best Buy the other day and it was horrible the amount of carts left out. Now, ours does not have corrals in the parking lot, but come on. It's not that far. We had to use a cart since we bought a mini fridge and I just rolled it back in the store.
I had never really thought about the fact that there are never cart corrals near the handicap spaces. I've never judged carts there, though. I just grab one if there's a lose cart and take it inside. It seems like lots of other people do the same thing.
When we have non-quarter carts I purposefully leave them by handicap spaces. Mr. has a much easier time wheeling the cart into the store rather than using his cane. I often see others picking up a cart we just dropped off and we frequently pick them up from there as well.
It never occurred to me to judge someone for not returning their cart. Obviously, if someone just dumps their cart carelessly in a way that can roll around and compromise safety or damage property then they are jerks. But if you stick it in between parking spots and secure it a bit? Meh, the next person can just grab it on the way in. Maybe I haven't seen these empty parking lots that people speak of. Lots are pretty full at the times we shop.
I think this problem could be solved and convenience introduced all around if there was a reliable way to "dock" a cart near more parking spaces. Easier for those coming in who need a cart, easier to drop off, easier on store employees.
Anyway, my judging energy is spent on people who leave their pee on toilet seats.SaveSave
What about people who are trying to pull in and then have to move the cart? They're not stationary. It really pisses me off when I try to pull into a space and then I can't because of a goddamn cart.
It also shows a lack of regard for other people's cars. The more carts un-corraled, the more likely cars are going to get dinged.
Post by lissaholly on Jun 17, 2017 16:40:21 GMT -5
My first and second job had cart duty. I was 15, with a simple rope to corral those things, with Midwest winters. It was a sucky job to see how lazy people were. It also sucked when people gave *me* dirty looks because a cart that was left out in a windy day went flying across the lot into a car. You know what else sucked about that job? Being harassed by men 2-3 times my age because something about being outside emboldened them.
I judge. I also judge stores that do not have enough cart corrals.
I had a lady yell at me for clipping the kids into their car seats, locking the door, and walking a few spots over to return the cart. Apparently she watched me too and decided to tell me what an unfit mother I am. 🙄 There are crazies everywhere.
you should've rammed her with a cart. What a bitch.
Yeah, I'm laughing that "securely" putting a cart between spaces is the preferred method. I *hate* when people do that.
Perhaps people are taking the carts in because they don't want to leave them where they can blow into other cars? Because people here JUST SAID that they'll take in loose carts if they see them so they don't hit cars, etc.
Also, where the fuck do these people live that the wind won't blow them around? You know how Chicago is called the Windy City? Yeah, my city is actually windier. I have to check the wind before I get dressed for the day to determine what kind of dress I can wear. A cart placed between parking spaces with just blow around.
There is one store we shop at that doesn't have corrals in the underground garage. But there is still an area that is suitable for placing carts, so customers have turned it into a de facto corral. It's hard to explain, but it works - the carts are all in one place for the employee to return them, and they are separated enough from the cars to not roll into them.
Yeah, I'm laughing that "securely" putting a cart between spaces is the preferred method. I *hate* when people do that.
Perhaps people are taking the carts in because they don't want to leave them where they can blow into other cars? Because people here JUST SAID that they'll take in loose carts if they see them so they don't hit cars, etc.
Also, where the fuck do these people live that the wind won't blow them around? You know how Chicago is called the Windy City? Yeah, my city is actually windier. I have to check the wind before I get dressed for the day to determine what kind of dress I can wear. A cart placed between parking spaces with just blow around.
There is one store we shop at that doesn't have corrals in the underground garage. But there is still an area that is suitable for placing carts, so customers have turned it into a de facto corral. It's hard to explain, but it works - the carts are all in one place for the employee to return them, and they are separated enough from the cars to not roll into them.
Random fact: chicago is called the windy city due to politicians blowing hot air
Post by spunbutterfly on Jun 17, 2017 19:10:23 GMT -5
People who don't return their carts are irritating. Especially in a crowded parking lot, especially "in between" spaces. Our spaces are tiny. You put a cart "in between" a space, and there's no room for a car to park without hitting it. The only time I've done this/do this is when the person who wants to take my spot tells me they will return my cart for me/use it themselves, I imagine to hurry me along in putting two kids and groceries into the car so I can vacate faster.
Of course the cart goes back in the corral. Assuming I take it out of the store which we almost never do at Target.
What I always found interesting is that you go to our plaza here and there are carts all over the f'in place from a variety of stores. You hit that Ikea tho? Allllll the carts get returned. I think I've seen a stray once & it was busted. It's like Ikea is magic.
I need to know how you can make it out of Target carrying your purchases. Teach me.
Of course the cart goes back in the corral. Assuming I take it out of the store which we almost never do at Target.
What I always found interesting is that you go to our plaza here and there are carts all over the f'in place from a variety of stores. You hit that Ikea tho? Allllll the carts get returned. I think I've seen a stray once & it was busted. It's like Ikea is magic.
I need to know how you can make it out of Target carrying your purchases. Teach me.
Hair products & nerd shirts pack down really well. But it's still a $150 run. lol
Of course the cart goes back in the corral. Assuming I take it out of the store which we almost never do at Target.
What I always found interesting is that you go to our plaza here and there are carts all over the f'in place from a variety of stores. You hit that Ikea tho? Allllll the carts get returned. I think I've seen a stray once & it was busted. It's like Ikea is magic.
I need to know how you can make it out of Target carrying your purchases. Teach me.
Don't have children
I'm there for toiletries and cleaning supplies usually. Maybe sundry pantry items. I've been known to buy nerd shirts from kids, which I'm guessing you can relate to.
It all usually fits in one of my reuseable bags. Exceptions would be something like toilet paper or a wine cube which I can hand carry since bags go over my shoulder.
Post by bohemianmango on Jun 17, 2017 20:30:01 GMT -5
Last week, I saw a lady put her cart in a parking space by the corral and not in it. The cart started rolling and I went to catch it. I didn't get to it in time and it rolled into her car as she drove. That's kartma for you, lady!
People who don't return carts because their children are just too precious to do that are likely raising entitled children who will ALSO neglect to return carts in the future.
There's no way to put a cart in between parking spaces that makes it easy to park and/or get the cart out without scraping a window or bonking into the car. Just put it back!
At the place we shop at there is. I leave it perpendicular to the cars in between where 4 spots meet, butted up against a signpost. It's busy so it's not like the carts are hanging around there long enough to blow into an empty spot. I do it in a specific situation - normally I don't think anything about returning a cart to the store or corral. SaveSave
Ah. Someone does this at my target. FYI, the carts don't stay put and end up blocking at least one space. And even if they don't, when cars park in all 4 spaces you can't get the cart out without scraping a car. Thus, useless.
A carefully not returned cart is exactly the same as a not carefully not returned cart. I may even prefer the later. Just a random "fuck it, let's roll this bad boy half assed over here and peace out." That shows some COMMITMENT.
So of course I had to pay attention when I went to the grocery today. Lots of carts between the 2 sides, but there are at least stops for each car so they're not at risk of running away and causing dings.
However, the effort to get them in there was way more than turning around and putting it in the corral immediately behind. That's what I don't get. More effort for everyone. I can at least intellectually understand lazy.
What I did notice were the handicapped spots had special cart sections next to them. I'd never seen those before, but I also never paid attention.
Last week, I saw a lady put her cart in a parking space by the corral and not in it. The cart started rolling and I went to catch it. I didn't get to it in time and it rolled into her car as she drove. That's kartma for you, lady!
Post by dorothyinAus on Jun 17, 2017 23:05:47 GMT -5
I actually checked Google Maps and counted the parking spaces vs. corrals in the parking lots closest to my house in the US.
At Target, the aisles are 38 parking spots long, and the corral furthest from the door is at spot 9, and they are only on the two aisles closest to the door. At the Wal-Mart, the aisles are 42 spots long and the last corral is at spot 10, and they are only on the two aisles in the center of the parking lot. At the grocery I visit most often, the aisles are 20 spaces long and the last corral is at spot 20, but are on every other aisle.
Corrals at my Australian groceries/Wal-Mart/Target are different. One does not have a parking lot, so you have to take the carts back to the store to get the deposit back and others are part of an all-in-one shopping center, so you have to find the corral for the carts from the particular store to get the deposit back -- the locking/deposit mechanism is different for each store's carts, so you have to return them to the correct spot to release the coin.
This reminds me of middle school when a girl told me she NEVER puts clothes back or on the return cart after trying on clothes in a dressing room. Didn't even hang them back up because, THAT'S THEIR JOB!
She was a bitch. Probably still is but I don't care about keeping up with her at all.
I almost broke out in hives reading this story. My mom would have died. She insisted that we straighten racks as we looked through them for clothes. This was just as we were shopping, not working retail. Not putting clothes back? We have lost our humanity.
Also, total cart returner. I had one dark night of the soul where I didn't return a cart for REASONS and it haunts me.
At the place we shop at there is. I leave it perpendicular to the cars in between where 4 spots meet, butted up against a signpost. It's busy so it's not like the carts are hanging around there long enough to blow into an empty spot. I do it in a specific situation - normally I don't think anything about returning a cart to the store or corral. SaveSave
Ah. Someone does this at my target. FYI, the carts don't stay put and end up blocking at least one space. And even if they don't, when cars park in all 4 spaces you can't get the cart out without scraping a car. Thus, useless.
A carefully not returned cart is exactly the same as a not carefully not returned cart. I may even prefer the later. Just a random "fuck it, let's roll this bad boy half assed over here and peace out." That shows some COMMITMENT.
But but but think about that one person that may find it easier to take a cart to the store then their cane. You know damn well that they are super duper careful about not hitting cars around them getting the cart out from a carefully not returned cart.
I now have a name to blame for all the f-ing dings, scraps, and scratches on my cars. I'm sure she is probably the type to park over the line next to you when you park all the way at the end of the lot where no other car is to avoid any body damage.
But but but think about that one person that may find it easier to take a cart to the store then their cane. You know damn well that they are super duper careful about not hitting cars around them getting the cart out from a carefully not returned cart.
I now have a name to blame for all the f-ing dings, scraps, and scratches on my cars. I'm sure she is probably the type to park over the line next to you when you park all the way at the end of the lot where no other car is to avoid any body damage.
You are all using handicap spots? You would know that there's often more space around those. It would be great if planners realized that someone needing a handicap spot would also benefit from having cart retrieval and deposit nearby. Some have, which is great.
It probably seems like small beans to able-bodied people, but yes, wheeling a cart provides a lot more stability than using a cane and saves some energy. Mr. is fit for a scooter at this point but wants to keep walking as much as he can.
All of the small things that able-bodied people take for granted are potential road bumps and obstacles for those with disabilities. At this particular store, another issue is carts getting stuck together. It takes a good pull and lifting up the panel of the cart that is caught. I even see regular people struggling with this so I think a reasonable person can see why it's easier for someone with limited strength and/or mobility to not deal with all of this.
We haven't had any problems with carts in the way when they're left in these spaces and trading the carts around there seems fine with everyone. I would not continue if this wasn't working out IRL. The purpose is an informal courtesy at this one store we frequent, not to hinder anyone.
I truly enjoy the extra walk myself, but it's been many years since we've parked anywhere but close to the entrance of stores on a family outing SaveSave
Well there are other spots that aren't handicap by those spots, they have to stop at some point. Keep justifying not returning your carts. It probably never occurred to you that people may be picking them up since you didn't return it as a courtesy to the store.
We used those spots when DH obliterated his ankle. There's one store where people pile all the carts in the sidewalk section where the spots are. He couldn't use his knee scooter there because the carts created an obstacle. He had to wheel out in the lot.
But yeah, keep twisting yourself into a pretzel to justify this.
If this happens in a family outing, Ms, why can't you return the damn cart?
Yes I've utilized handicaps spots when driving my gramma around. Like pixy said, it's a pita when people think that wide space means it can hold a cart better. It's wide for a reason.
mr+ms, not one person judges your H for not returning a cart. But YOU said that YOU purposely don't return a cart. That's different. If he's with you, he gets in the car and you can return the cart...just like I'm guessing most of us do when we're with a parent, grandparent, or anyone for whom returning a cart might be more difficult. For instance, if I'm shopping with my mom (who is generally able-bodied) I will always, always return the cart for her while she gets in the car. I will also offer to return the carts for anyone in the lot if it's on my way or if they look like they'd appreciate it...regardless of their ability to walk.
This is NOT about your H. If he's out by himself, by all means, leave the cart where it's safest, easiest for him. But if there's anyone over the age of 10 or so with him...the cart should be returned.
Like so many, I park near the corral and will take stray carts back myself.
I also take back carts for elderly people or those who seem like they need a little help. Not like I'm running around the lot, but if there is someone near me while I'm in the lot, I offer.
I'm always grateful when people take my cart in for me.