Weekend Trump/Russia

[curbsideprophet]

I did not see a Friday thread. Since it is so late on Friday I am just going to start this as a weekend thread.

Pompeo could try to shield Trump from Russia probe.

www.businessinsider.com/cia-director-mike-pompeo-trump-2017-8

[aurora]

Here's a new theory:

[Jalapeñomel]

Aug 25, 2017 21:12:57 GMT -5 aurora said:

Here's a new theory:

I think about this a lot.

[curbsideprophet]

Aug 25, 2017 21:12:57 GMT -5 aurora said:

Here's a new theory:

I think this would only add to his own obstruction of justice charges. So it means he will probably try it.

[mbcdefg]

[curbsideprophet]

Special counsel examines possible Flynn role in Clinton email hack

www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-examines-possible-role-flynn-played-in-seeking-clinton-emails-from-hackers-1503694304

[aurora]

Aug 25, 2017 23:39:13 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Special counsel examines possible Flynn role in Clinton email hack

www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-examines-possible-role-flynn-played-in-seeking-clinton-emails-from-hackers-1503694304

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone besides 45 himself was involved, and him only because I'm not sure if he understands email.

[mbcdefg]

Aug 25, 2017 23:59:54 GMT -5 aurora said:

Aug 25, 2017 23:39:13 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Special counsel examines possible Flynn role in Clinton email hack

www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-examines-possible-role-flynn-played-in-seeking-clinton-emails-from-hackers-1503694304

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone besides 45 himself was involved, and him only because I'm not sure if he understands email.

I really don't think Trump is directly involved in any of this simply because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut about it.

[sporklemotion]

Aug 25, 2017 21:12:57 GMT -5 aurora said:

Here's a new theory:

This makes more sense to me than an earlier pardon. If he pardons them too early, they can't plead the fifth.

I agree that he was probably not directly involved in the fetal. U think Pence was given plausible deniability, too. But aDt's ego is so big he will probably insist that he was the mastermind even if he wasn't.

The more I learn about it, the more I suspect Jared as a huge player/motivator. His ties to Russian $ are deeper than I'd realized, at least according to Rachel Maddow.

[anonymous]

Aug 26, 2017 6:44:31 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Aug 25, 2017 23:59:54 GMT -5 aurora said:

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone besides 45 himself was involved, and him only because I'm not sure if he understands email.

I really don't think Trump is directly involved in any of this simply because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut about it.

I don't know-I find it so odd/suspicious that before the election he said we'd all be surprised by Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan and look what happened in those states.

[hopecounts]

Aug 25, 2017 21:37:36 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Aug 25, 2017 21:12:57 GMT -5 aurora said:

Here's a new theory:

I think this would only add to his own obstruction of justice charges. So it means he will probably try it.

I think he is doing this to signal to them that he didn't care how bad it looks he will pardon them.

He's showing I have this power and I don't care what anyone thinks I will use it so protect me and I'll protect you.

I think they are dumb to trust him but his followers (including advisors) seem to think he is more loyal then he has shown himself to be

[miniroller]

Aug 26, 2017 7:39:19 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I think he is doing this to signal to them that he didn't care how bad it looks he will pardon them.

He's showing I have this power and I don't care what anyone thinks I will use it so protect me and I'll protect you.

YUP. This was totally his "practice pardon" before he has to release Sessions, Flynn, FAMILY MEMBERS. 😡

[scout8]

I don't think his pardon has anything to do with plans for future pardons. He doesn't plan that far ahead. Nor would he feel the need to try it out. I think this is all racism and signaling to his base that he is still with them.

[Pom]

Aug 26, 2017 6:44:31 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Aug 25, 2017 23:59:54 GMT -5 aurora said:

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone besides 45 himself was involved, and him only because I'm not sure if he understands email.

I really don't think Trump is directly involved in any of this simply because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut about it.

So if everyone around you is a rotten, cheating turd, and you are not guilty, only because you yourself are "too stoopid" to participate, does that mean we will still be stuck with this epic fucking mess of an administration? Not expecting an answer, just quietly musing to myself.

[mbcdefg]

Aug 26, 2017 12:43:56 GMT -5 Pom said:

Aug 26, 2017 6:44:31 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I really don't think Trump is directly involved in any of this simply because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut about it.

So if everyone around you is a rotten, cheating turd, and you are not guilty, only because you yourself are "too stoopid" to participate, does that mean we will still be stuck with this epic fucking mess of an administration? Not expecting an answer, just quietly musing to myself.

For some reason I really think Trump will be the last one standing out of all these chucklefucks. I throne it'll be a lot easier to nail one of his croanies than him for something illegal.

Also I'm sure he's not above throwing any of them, with the possible exception of Ivanka, under the bus if it means saving his own hide.

If anyone in the administration ends up dishing the dirt on Trump, my money's on Jared.

[WanderingWinoZ]

Aug 26, 2017 13:10:43 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Aug 26, 2017 12:43:56 GMT -5 Pom said:

So if everyone around you is a rotten, cheating turd, and you are not guilty, only because you yourself are "too stoopid" to participate, does that mean we will still be stuck with this epic fucking mess of an administration? Not expecting an answer, just quietly musing to myself.

For some reason I really think Trump will be the last one standing out of all these chucklefucks. I throne it'll be a lot easier to nail one of his croanies than him for something illegal.

Also I'm sure he's not above throwing any of them, with the possible exception of Ivanka, under the bus if it means saving his own hide.

If anyone in the administration ends up dishing the dirt on Trump, my money's on Jared.

[WanderingWinoZ]

talking heads on MSNBC are saying that those who are under investigation about russia may now be more likely to lie under oath or obstruct justice b/c they know that trump will pardon that behavior, in additional to any underlying crimes they may have committed

[iamlaila]

This is an interesting piece about AJ Delgado, the Trump surrogate who was having the affair with Jason Miller and got pregnant:

www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/news/a47616/aj-delgado-pregnant-women-patriarchy/

[Jalapeñomel]

Aug 26, 2017 13:35:15 GMT -5 WanderingWinoZ said:

talking heads on MSNBC are saying that those who are under investigation about russia may now be more likely to lie under oath or obstruct justice b/c they know that trump will pardon that behavior, in additional to any underlying crimes they may have committed

And the right will be all, See! Witch Hunt! Nothing to see with the Russia stuff! And the GOP wins again.

[bears]

I'm so fucking mad that Obama got crap for wearing a tan suit and this shitstain is taking meetings with a fucking baseball cap on:

And of course:

I am more angry about a lot of things but this is irking me today.

[WanderingWinoZ]

[curbsideprophet]

Aug 26, 2017 19:32:49 GMT -5 bears said:

I'm so fucking mad that Obama got crap for wearing a tan suit and this shitstain is taking meetings with a fucking baseball cap on:

And of course:

I am more angry about a lot of things but this is irking me today.

Is it Made in the USA?

[WanderingWinoZ]

lol

[winecat]

Aug 26, 2017 20:26:55 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Aug 26, 2017 19:32:49 GMT -5 bears said:

I'm so fucking mad that Obama got crap for wearing a tan suit and this shitstain is taking meetings with a fucking baseball cap on:

And of course:

I am more angry about a lot of things but this is irking me today.

Is it Made in the USA?

So they say, but truthfulness isn't a Trump strong suit.  

[isabel]

I am dying.

The guy who is supposed to find positive news about Trump just quit.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-andy-hemming-white-house-positive-news-quits-rapid-response-director-step-down-a7912896.html

[mbcdefg]

Jobs jobs jobs!

[mbcdefg]

*cue broken record*

Is he really allowed to do this?

[nikki25]

Aug 26, 2017 7:32:59 GMT -5 anonymous said:

Aug 26, 2017 6:44:31 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I really don't think Trump is directly involved in any of this simply because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut about it.

I don't know-I find it so odd/suspicious that before the election he said we'd all be surprised by Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan and look what happened in those states.

Yup.

And, I remember just a day or two before the election we were all talking on here how stupid he was to be spending his last couple of days IN THOSE EXACT states and how dumb he was since they were solid blue.

I remember thinking then that it was to save face knowing something was weird.

[Deleted]

Aug 27, 2017 6:47:53 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

*cue broken record*

Is he really allowed to do this?

Yeah, we all know you don't read books, Trump.

[aurora]

Aug 27, 2017 6:47:53 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

*cue broken record*

Is he really allowed to do this?

He is allowed to do anything that 51% of the House plus 2/3 of the Senate or Pence plus whatever fraction of the Cabinet is required for 25th Amendment say he is allowed to do.