Post by seeyalater52 on Dec 27, 2017 14:23:43 GMT -5
I get 25 hours of dedicated vacation (kicks in at year 3, before that it’s 15 vacation days) and 12 sick days a year. Vacation we can roll over 10 days into the next year, sick days accrue basically forever with no limit. We also get 3 separate use-it-or-lose-it personal days a year and 3 nonprofit volunteer days.
ETA: plus we can work from home as-needed within reason to accommodate mid-day appointments, maintenance people, mild illness, etc.
My company pools all time off, so holiday/vacation/sick/personal, and a new hire gets 160 hours or 20 days to start. We can choose to work the holidays at time and a half and keep that time for whenever we want. I am on year 7 and I am at 232 hours. I honestly feel like our company is on the low side. I only just now feel like I have adequate time and definitely struggled at the beginning.
Employees here less than 5 years get 127.5 vacation hours and 90 sick hours. Over 5 years gets you 165 vacation hours and still 90 sick hours. Any accumulation of sick hours above 250 pays out at half time annually.
Post by thebreakfastclub on Dec 27, 2017 14:27:18 GMT -5
Also, at my old job, you had the ability to buy 1-5 additional vacation days a year, which you paid for out of biweekly payroll deductions. If you did not use them all, the company would pay you the deduction back in January of the new year.
I thought that was a really nice perk for people who want to use the extra days or who have an extended trip or wedding planned.
Take a step back and realize that this may equate to a week of actual vacation, a couple of drs appointments for a mother and her child(red), and a sick kid with the flu or appendicitis that eats up another week.
What if they have family living on the other side of the country? Or an elderly parent who also needs assistance getting to appointments?
Or what if their car breaks down and they need to use a day unexpectedly?
That's just not enough time. Who needs to approve a company-wide change to your PTO policy?
New hires coming into the university I work at get 24 days of vacation/sick/personal time. We are allowed to use sick time for family members and it rolls over. Vacation time is use it or lose it. We also get half day Fridays in the summer and this week (the week between Christmas and New Years) off.
That's low IMO. I get 24 vacation days a year, plus a bunch of sick days (I think 18?). I don't think mine is the norm, but I do think at least 15 days of PTO is pretty common in professional jobs.
The only other company I have worked for had 15 vacation days and up to 20 sick days. You weren't really supposed to use all 20 sick days unless you had a major health issue (though it would be frowned upon, but you wouldn't get fired or anything if you used them all randomly) but they definitely would have covered doctor appointments, sick kids, your own illness, etc.
12 days total would be unacceptable to me, honestly. I wouldn't take a job that offered that little. I have a lot of out of town family and I love to travel, so I use all or most of my time every year.
That's what I was offered at my new job, and it was all I negotiated on. I was like, I'll take an even salary, but I'm not an entry level candidate so "starting over" on the PTO ladder is not happening. The HR director didn't even pause. She said "yes that's a dumb policy" and approved the extra vaca, lol.
It's standard, so it's what is always offered initially.
If people are too stupid to ask for more before they accept the job, I feel like it's on them.
Post by Champagne Supernova on Dec 27, 2017 14:35:07 GMT -5
30 days vacation and 14 days of sick days.
You can use your vacation days as sick days but sick days are to be used as sick days only.
If you're out of both, you go on leave without pay/FMLA but one must exhaust both (people do it mainly for medical reasons). I can't be all "Hey I'm taking off to Hawaii but I'm out of vacation days so just don't pay me!"
Post by litskispeciality on Dec 27, 2017 14:37:17 GMT -5
Does your company allow for the chance to make up the hours if you go to an appointment? I know it's not always that easy to make up the hours, but a lot of companies understand that you have to go to the doc, dentist etc. Even when I worked at a for-profit they allowed you to make up hours either early or later in the day/week since we only got 9 days forwarded (you had to make the time back up) and earn a sick day every other month.
We get 10 days plus 5 "sick"days. But my job is flexible that if I need to leave early for a Dr appt or take a longer lunch I can make the time up another day. My last job we got 10 days the first year, then 3 weeks once you hit 1 year. I believe every 5 years you got a couple extra days. I don't think 2 weeks is unreasonable if they're willing to be flexible.
I have 17 days total PTO. I misunderstood how it worked when I accepted the offer (I thought it was 17 days vacation, not vacation + sick). I was super bummed when I realized it was a pool of time for all needs. I have 2 kids, and am the primary person to take off with them when they are sick. I had a lot more time off at my last job, plus WFH flexibility, and I'm perpetually annoyed by how much thought I now have to put into any day off (will this affect a planned vacation? Will I still be able to accomodate next month's dr appt, etc).
Post by killercupcake on Dec 27, 2017 14:49:56 GMT -5
I get no vacation time. However, fall break, winter break, spring break, and bank holidays are paid. Summer is not paid.
I get up to 15 sick days a year. 6 are frontloaded at the beginning of the school year and I earn 1.5 more a month. Sick days roll over, so I can save them. I think up to 100 days.
If I don’t use any sick days, I get 4 personal days the next school year. If I use less than 5 sick days, I get 2. Six or more, no personal days. I can’t carry them over, so I either use them or they pay me for the days at the end of the year.
We get 10 days for new hires and that includes vacation and sick time. Company holidays are separate. It is fucking shitty. I've been here 2.5 years and couldn't take time off this week because I only have about 20 hours. I honestly don't take that much time off at all, but I never, ever have a reasonable amount of vacation time built up. I hate it. I actually plan to bring this up with my boss during my review to see if I can get another week of PTO.
Post by gibbinator on Dec 27, 2017 14:52:57 GMT -5
That sounds pretty normal for a year. I'm in year 2 with my company and have 15 days (120 hours) + 8 holidays + 4 sick days + any days rolled over from the previous year. My manager also doesn't mind if I take an extra long lunch or leave early occasionally for an appointment (45mins or so). Before this job I'd never had more than 10 days starting out.
For those of you who have combined sick+vacation - do you just leave extra days in the event you get sick? I'm thinking of when my H got a concussion right after we got back from a 2 week vacation and couldn't work for 3 days. The trip was in September, so the only days we were taking off the rest of the year were for Thanksgiving - necessary since my family lives out of state. I feel like I'd be constantly worried about possibly having to cancel my holiday travel plans if the flu were to hit my house or something towards the end of the year.
I think 12.5 days for total PTO is low. When I posted about my new job offering 13 days, pretty much everyone thought that was low. I ended up negotiating up. I think it depends on your overall work experience, too -- once someone has been working for a number of years, I feel like it's pretty common for employers to match or get closer to what a new employee had.
In my last job, everyone had an open policy (take what you need w/ manager's approval). Before the open policy, I had:
Vacation: 20 days Sick: 5 days Personal: 2 days
I think a brand-new person would have had 10 vacation, 5 sick, 2 personal.
That's what I was offered at my new job, and it was all I negotiated on. I was like, I'll take an even salary, but I'm not an entry level candidate so "starting over" on the PTO ladder is not happening. The HR director didn't even pause. She said "yes that's a dumb policy" and approved the extra vaca, lol.
It's standard, so it's what is always offered initially.
If people are too stupid to ask for more before they accept the job, I feel like it's on them.
Ugh, Mr. Smock was just offered two weeks. It took a week for corporate to get back when he asked for four weeks, since he's mid career and doesn't want to start over.
They would only agree to three weeks, and said he isn't eligible for a fourth week until he's been there 15 years (lol no), AND the wait pushed his start date back and they're saying he isn't eligible for benefits until a month later.
Post by walterismydog on Dec 27, 2017 15:09:19 GMT -5
I get something like 22 PTO/sick days plus like 8 or 9 federal holidays plus some years we get bonus days/random early leaves. Plus I can flex my schedule to work 4-10s or whatever. I've worked there a little over a year - this is entry level leave time. I could get paid quite a bit more for what I do but my benefits are incredible (we also get free health insurance and free dental) so I am going to stick it out.
We are required to take 80 hours of our time per year.
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