How much vacation time do you get?

[zaneyzoo]

Is it specified how it's used?

someone in my office had an increase of time to 100 hours to be used however (personal/sick/vacation)beginning Jan 1 and is upset that it isn't enough time.  And doesn't think it's fair her kid's doctor and dentist appointments come out of that time.  

I think it's fairly generous for only being here a year.  

Does that amount of time seem like too little?  

That's not including holidays already given or jury duty or funeral. 

[bbdoll]

That's pretty low. Only about 12 days to cover vacation and sick time. I can see being upset. Was she given more days prior?

[zaneyzoo]

Dec 27, 2017 14:07:06 GMT -5 bbdoll said:

That's pretty low. Only about 12 days to cover vacation and sick time. I can see being upset. Was she given more days prior?

Really?  How much is the norm?  Wherever I have worked before, I didn't get any time until I was there 90 days and then it was only a week until the first year with a few more added.  

Before, there was miscommunication between her manager and her to where she was using "comp time" to build up additional vacation time. She had figured out to get an extra 2.5 hours/week or 10 hours a month.  Basically skimming the system when it wasn't designed for that.  And no, additional work wasn't being done at that time.  

[gummy]

I think that's very low for a pool of time. Our sick, vacation and personal is one pool and a new hire gets 25 days.

[raangoli]

That does seem pretty low to me and I'd be upset, too. I left a company after 15 years and I had 24 vacation days for my tenure there. My new company gave me 21 and I am bitter that I've lost those 4 days plus like 3 company holidays. It adds up over time.

Thankfully, my boss is great and doesn't make me use vacation time for doctor visits for myself or my daughter.

If she worked elsewhere prior, it's possible that she had vacation days and a personal time allotment that was separate.

[yaga]

Dec 27, 2017 14:04:12 GMT -5 zaneyzoo said:

Is it specified how it's used?

someone in my office had an increase of time to 100 hours to be used however (personal/sick/vacation)beginning Jan 1 and is upset that it isn't enough time.  And doesn't think it's fair her kid's doctor and dentist appointments come out of that time.  

I think it's fairly generous for only being here a year.  

Does that amount of time seem like too little?  

That's not including holidays already given or jury duty or funeral. 

Considering that's only 12.5 8 hour days, yes I'd be annoyed if that was my total amount of leave for a year. 

I get 26 vacation days, which includes 3 personal days and 3 floating holidays that we can use any day of the year. These roll over, but only to the maximum of 26 days. 

I get 12 sick days a year that roll over and don't max out (or max out at an amount I'll never reach).

However, if I had a kid, I would need to use vacation/personal leave for any kind of doctor's appointment for them. There is an amount each year protected by NYC law (I believe we can use 5 days of vacation for family member appointments?), but regardless of if it's covered by that law or not, you can't use sick time for it. 

[ECB]

I work for the state. Keep that in mind. I get 25 vacation, 15 sick, about 13 holiday’s.

Sick is for me and time I need to take for my family.

100 hours isn’t all that much and if I had to go to that, I’d have a HARD time adjusting. BUT at the same time, this idea that it’s not “fair” she has to use it for her kids getting sick? Yeah - good luck with that. While the US, in general, has really crappy leave, at the same time- why she thinks she shouldn’t have to use it that way.... well, good luck with that.

[definitelyO]

new hires non-exempt get 100 hours of PTO (vacation/sick, etc..). new hires exempt get 80 hours.  both get 8 paid holidays and 2 floating holidays.

I don't have a limit - but keep it to about 3-4 weeks of vacation and I've taken 2 sick days. I don't count mine or DS's appts against any bank of time as I'm salary and just make up the work/time.

[medicmommy]

I accumulate 1 sick day / month, 2 weeks vacation, and 3 personal days / year.

[zaneyzoo]

Well I'm glad I asked - I guess we need to revisit that.

There is another employee who has been here 13 years and has 140 hours and struggles to use them all.

[Jalapeñomel]

I get 50 days a year.

[jigsy]

Yeah, I'd be pissed. From day one to 5 years, We get 80 60 hours of sick time, and 75 hours of vacation. 

ETA: Its actually 60 hours of sick...I think that is a CA mandate for full time employees. 

[yaga]

Oh I should add that I work at a hospital/cancer research center that's only closed on 6 major holidays, so I think they make up for that with a generous amount of vacation time.

[Deleted]

I get 7 weeks PTO (vacation, sick, personal) plus a flex schedule. I’ve been here 5 years, but everyone starts out wth 6 weeks and earns an extra week at the 3 year anniversary.

I know my policy is very generous BUT there is research that indicates a generous PTO policy = higher employee satisfaction and lower turnover (turnover = $$$$). So... I don’t get why generous PTO policies aren’t more typical.

Adding: the 7 weeks doesn’t include major holidays, dentist appointments, etc. we also get the week between Christmas and New Years off, which isn’t included in the 7 weeks.

Tbh, I struggle to use it BUT I love that I have it and I am always trying to think of ways to take breaks. It should t matter that I’m struggling to use it though. Sometimes I just take the day off because I need it. The breaks are critical to my work life balance.

[ECB]

Dec 27, 2017 14:09:59 GMT -5 zaneyzoo said:

Dec 27, 2017 14:07:06 GMT -5 bbdoll said:

That's pretty low. Only about 12 days to cover vacation and sick time. I can see being upset. Was she given more days prior?

Really?  How much is the norm?  Wherever I have worked before, I didn't get any time until I was there 90 days and then it was only a week until the first year with a few more added.  

Before, there was miscommunication between her manager and her to where she was using "comp time" to build up additional vacation time. She had figured out to get an extra 2.5 hours/week or 10 hours a month.  Basically skimming the system when it wasn't designed for that.  And no, additional work wasn't being done at that time.  

EVery job I had before started at 3 weeks vacation and - I think - 10 sick days.  My last job switched over to PTO, which was 22 days - so we lost, in essence, 3 days.  That sucked.  

But to me, 3 weeks is the norm.  I feel like companies that give less than that really don’t value work/life balance.  

[Deleted]

I change jobs like I change underwear (only sort of kidding LOL) and most companies in my industry offer 2 weeks vacation time, and then usually another 5 days for personal and sick time. I just started a new job in October and I negotiated to get 20 days of PTO which is for everything. I can work from home though if I need to which helps on days my kids have doctors appointments and what not.

[foodiemom]

That seems very low if it includes all time off (sick, kids appointments etc). My husband gets 18 vacation days and I believe 6-8 sick/flex days but may be more than that.

[jenny1223]

My company has a "take what you need" PTO policy that covers any PTO (vacation/sick/appointments/family emergency/etc). I have a role that is hard to take a lot of time off so I don't think I take advantage of it. Others here take 5-6 weeks/year.

[ECB]

Dec 27, 2017 14:14:42 GMT -5 @akswartz85 said:

I get 7 weeks PTO (vacation, sick, personal) plus a flex schedule. I’ve been here 5 years, but everyone starts out wth 6 weeks and earns an extra week at the 3 year anniversary.

I know my policy is very generous BUT there is research that indicates a generous PTO policy = higher employee satisfaction and lower turnover (turnover = $$$$). So... I don’t get why generous PTO policies aren’t more typical.

Anecdotes and all - but my leave and ability to work from home 2 days a week is a HUGE reason why I’ve been there for 10 years.!  I’ve wanted to leave but know I’ll never find what I have anywhere else.  

[latte]

That’s super low to me, but I would also have no problem using 140 hours. I get 31 days a year, which includes sick time.

When I first started, we were given 18 days.

[thebreakfastclub]

I think that's a pretty low amount of PTO. At my job, a new hire gets 13 days PTO (10 days vacation + 3 personal). In addition, we get a half day off every other Friday from May-Oct, so that's another 7 days of time off.

Sick time and appointments do not come out of that time - you just make up the time as you see fit.

In previous jobs, the standard is 10 days vacation, 3 personal and unlimited sick time.

[Deleted]

Dec 27, 2017 14:17:47 GMT -5 ECB said:

Dec 27, 2017 14:14:42 GMT -5 @akswartz85 said:

I get 7 weeks PTO (vacation, sick, personal) plus a flex schedule. I’ve been here 5 years, but everyone starts out wth 6 weeks and earns an extra week at the 3 year anniversary.

I know my policy is very generous BUT there is research that indicates a generous PTO policy = higher employee satisfaction and lower turnover (turnover = $$$$). So... I don’t get why generous PTO policies aren’t more typical.

Anecdotes and all - but my leave and ability to work from home 2 days a week is a HUGE reason why I’ve been there for 10 years.!  I’ve wanted to leave but know I’ll never find what I have anywhere else.  

Me too. I work remotely also, which is a HUGE benefit. It makes working full time and two kids doable.

[wambam]

15 days, no specification on how I can use it

It used to be 10 days until I racked up 5 years

[goldengirlz]

I’ve always had at least four weeks vacation time. At my current job, we have unlimited vacation.

DH has a month.

[zaneyzoo]

Dec 27, 2017 14:16:02 GMT -5 ECB said:

Dec 27, 2017 14:09:59 GMT -5 zaneyzoo said:

Really?  How much is the norm?  Wherever I have worked before, I didn't get any time until I was there 90 days and then it was only a week until the first year with a few more added.  

Before, there was miscommunication between her manager and her to where she was using "comp time" to build up additional vacation time. She had figured out to get an extra 2.5 hours/week or 10 hours a month.  Basically skimming the system when it wasn't designed for that.  And no, additional work wasn't being done at that time.  

EVery job I had before started at 3 weeks vacation and - I think - 10 sick days.  My last job switched over to PTO, which was 22 days - so we lost, in essence, 3 days.  That sucked.  

But to me, 3 weeks is the norm.  I feel like companies that give less than that really don’t value work/life balance.  

That makes sense. 

Thanks for the input ladies!  We may have to go back and revamp

[CloudBee]

In the corporate world 2 wks of vacation time and 1 wk of sick is pretty standard for the first year or two out of school. Some even tack on an additional personal day or two, and have guidelines for bereavement, etc.

100 hrs is a joke. I would be upset, too. And if someone doesn't complain, nothing will ever change.

[oregonpachey]

We get unlimited PTO as well as all the major holidays off. I typically take about 3 weeks of vacation a year.

[ECB]

Dec 27, 2017 14:13:51 GMT -5 zaneyzoo said:

Well I'm glad I asked - I guess we need to revisit that.

There is another employee who has been here 13 years and has 140 hours and struggles to use them all.

That’s only 17 days.  I would guess that person is not the norm!!  Most people could probably easily use up 17 days.  

At my job, we can roll over up to 10 weeks (400 hours).  There are absolutely people who get up to that limit and actually end up losing time.  But with 5 weeks every year (not even including sick leave or holidays (which I’m using for this week - not even my vacation days!)) - of course people will have a problem using that up. 

But I would not use that one person as any sign of what is normal for most people.  

[janegold]

4 weeks vacation.

Unlimited personal and sick time.

[miso]

That may sound low, but I think it's pretty standard, especially for a person who has not been at the job for a long time.

I just negotiated four weeks of vacation, which does not include sick leave or holidays.

They offered two weeks, and I’m like LOL NO.