They couldn't have waited a week?! Andrew must be apoplectic.
Well like I said they are going to have the international media laser focused on them for however long their tour lasts. I'm assuming she's passed the first trimester at least. The only reason Kate and William announced her pregnancies super early was because she got so sick and had to cancel all her engagements. If Meghan is visibly pregnant, what are they supposed to do?
At least Eugenie got her wedding weekend.
Sure. I just picture Andrew spitting nails. And Fergie hasn't even had time to post photos of the reception with "true luvvv" superimposed in pink script on her Insta.
Why is everyone assuming Eugenie is a beebee bride?
Because her father is an attention seeking asshole and her mother has not helped either. Lots of scandals there, unfortunately for her. She seems very nice and normal. She even works for a living.
Why is everyone assuming Eugenie is a beebee bride?
Probably because of her dad. I agree with bex (I think) who said that Andrew probably is super pissed because he's a total toad, but Eugenie probably doesn't care at all. Her wedding coverage was going to end as soon as the tour started anyway.
Both of Andrew's daughters seem light years more mature and aware than he does.
Why can’t two women make major life choices and just be happy for each other? Why does everyone have to infuse drama and discord between women all the time?
I mean? What are they supposed to do? Gaslight everyone with a story that she ate a big burrito before the wedding? I mean c’mon. They seem like nice people who weren’t out to destroy cousins’s big day. It’s not shitty. It’s not rude. It’s just life.
Plus, we ALL knew people were going to scrutinize her belly the second she got married.
If there's one luxury they don't have, it's delaying this kind of news. The rumors started as soon as she stepped out of that car at the wedding. Her outfit kind of gave it away. IMO, it is good PR to cut rumors short and announce ASAP. That way, they still have some control over this news.
Also, Eugenie got a few days of super positive coverage, everyone praised her for being a "true princess," and Meghan and Harry were going to overtake the news cycle ANYWAY this week with the coverage of the tour. It wasn't like the press was going to cover Eugenie's wedding for the next month, regardless of what Andrew wanted. (because that's what I think....I think Eugenie prob doesn't care about this announcement, but Andrew is probably super pissed.)
I was thinking this too. Even without the pregnancy announcement, I would have bet most of the big weekly tabloids like People, Us, etc. would have featured a big photo of Harry and Meghan on their tour with a small photo of Eugenie's wedding in the corner. Not many people who don't follow the royal family really know who she is, unfortunately, because she and her sister have been prevented from taking on visible roles in representing the monarchy.
I don't necessarily think that's unfortunate though; I think that's life. Most Americans couldn't tell you who the Duchess of Gloucester is, even though she is a working royal, or the Duchess of Kent. We only recognize Princess Michael because she is so openly racist.
They are currently really making the point that Charles, W&K, H&M are the future and giving the baby/ies the Prince/ss title plays into that.
Yes they automatically get upgraded when Charles becomes King but it makes it less messy if they fix it now and they are Prince/ss from the beginning
Yeah I think it will depend on what Harry and Meghan want in the future. If they want their children to be prince/princess, they will be styled that from birth (I know its not their choice, but I imagine there will be convos with the queen about it); if they don't want them to be prince/princess when Charles becomes king then they will be styled lady (I think DM said that a boy would be Earl of Dumbarton).
This is really interesting, I didn't realize it wasn't automatic. I have a feeling Harry and Meghan will take a page out of Anne's book and raise their kids to be as "normal" as possible. Just a feeling I get. Especially as the odds of them working for the monarchy as adults seem slight with three Cambridge siblings.
Why can’t two women make major life choices and just be happy for each other? Why does everyone have to infuse drama and discord between women all the time?
It's like all the media who pit Kate and Meghan against each other. If you ever read the comment section of those articles...crazy. Don't people realize you can like both of them at the same time? lol. They bring different things to the table, which is good.
Yeah I think it will depend on what Harry and Meghan want in the future. If they want their children to be prince/princess, they will be styled that from birth (I know its not their choice, but I imagine there will be convos with the queen about it); if they don't want them to be prince/princess when Charles becomes king then they will be styled lady (I think DM said that a boy would be Earl of Dumbarton).
This is really interesting, I didn't realize it wasn't automatic. I have a feeling Harry and Meghan will take a page out of Anne's book and raise their kids to be as "normal" as possible. Just a feeling I get. Especially as the odds of them working for the monarchy as adults seem slight with three Cambridge siblings.
Yes the queen had to change it for William's children too actually. His oldest son was entitled to Prince, but not beyond that, so she changed the rules so they would all be prince/princess (which again, they would be once Charles becomes king.)
Who the hell cares if they told family during the wedding weekend? I hope she has an easy and uneventful pregnancy. I think Andrew needs to GTF over himself. Eugenie's wedding was totally her own and she was not upstaged in the least. People need to stop creating drama where there isn't any.
Who the hell cares if they told family during the wedding weekend? I hope she has an easy and uneventful pregnancy. I think Andrew needs to GTF over himself. Eugenie's wedding was totally her own and she was not upstaged in the least. People need to stop creating drama where there isn't any.
Seriously. Was there an article I missed where Harry jumped on a table at the reception and yelled, "I put a baby in her!"? Because otherwise Friday is a long day and there's plenty of non-public time to chat with the family.
Who the hell cares if they told family during the wedding weekend? I hope she has an easy and uneventful pregnancy. I think Andrew needs to GTF over himself. Eugenie's wedding was totally her own and she was not upstaged in the least. People need to stop creating drama where there isn't any.
Seriously. Was there an article I missed where Harry jumped on a table at the reception and yelled, "I put a baby in her!"? Because otherwise Friday is a long day and there's plenty of non-public time to chat with the family.
Maybe if he had a lot of the Casamigos tequila ;-)
It's also possible that they told the family Friday after the morning reception. It's totally possible they all had tea or something together. Wouldn't be that weird since the queen just came back from her summer stay.
And I think a family like this has lots of practice focusing on two things at once, they can be happy for both at once.
And maybe Eugenie is genuinely happy for them! lol. I don't know why everyone assumes there is all this infighting over media attention and status. Maybe they're genuinely close, she knows her cousin really wants to start a family, and she's happy for them. It's not like they announced to the media before her wedding.
I mean, I would have been excited for any of my cousins that was pregnant at my wedding! I guess the argument is that Harry & Meghan get all the attention, but who's to say Eugenie even cares about that? I mean, Andrew does but it's well-documented he's a petty dick.
This is where I sit. I mean, I'm not a royal, so what do I know, but it would never have occurred to me to be upset if someone at my wedding had quietly told friends/family about a pregnancy. I think I would have been excited about it. I can't see how this detracts from her wedding day.
Also, there are all kinds of other factors that go into a decision like this. I'm sure they were dealing with a lot of timing issues and trying to figure out how to balance all the speculation with the wedding and their tour. It just seems like a silly thing to criticize them.
I mean, I would have been excited for any of my cousins that was pregnant at my wedding! I guess the argument is that Harry & Meghan get all the attention, but who's to say Eugenie even cares about that? I mean, Andrew does but it's well-documented he's a petty dick.
This is where I sit. I mean, I'm not a royal, so what do I know, but it would never have occurred to me to be upset if someone at my wedding had quietly told friends/family about a pregnancy. I think I would have been excited about it. I can't see how this detracts from her wedding day.
Also, there are all kinds of other factors that go into a decision like this. I'm sure they were dealing with a lot of timing issues and trying to figure out how to balance all the speculation with the wedding and their tour. It just seems like a silly thing to criticize them.
Especially since they're cousins and it sounds like they only told their immediate family on Friday (Charles, the Queen and Philip, probably W&K). If Eugenie had been Harry's sister, then yeah I could see the argument more that it's thunder stealing but she's not. Her immediate family and close friends probably didn't know until later. I honestly wouldn't have been upset as the bride in that situation.
This is really interesting, I didn't realize it wasn't automatic. I have a feeling Harry and Meghan will take a page out of Anne's book and raise their kids to be as "normal" as possible. Just a feeling I get. Especially as the odds of them working for the monarchy as adults seem slight with three Cambridge siblings.
Yes the queen had to change it for William's children too actually. His oldest son was entitled to Prince, but not beyond that, so she changed the rules so they would all be prince/princess (which again, they would be once Charles becomes king.)
I wonder if they’ll go the Edward and Sophie route and decline the titles. Since Beatrice and Eugenie aren’t working royals the precedent is there for Harry and Meghan’s kids to not be as well - especially when you factor in that there are already three Cambridge children - you could actually see how a good argument could be made for B and E to be working royals - the queen has for children who are all working and since Charles only has the 2 if you included B and E it would still be the same number in that generation. But since they are slimming down the monarchy it definitely doesn’t make sense for H and M’s kids to be working royals.
I said this in the other thread, but I want to say it even MORE here. People in here talking about poor Eugenie and that this was a shitty move are HILARIOUS. Seriously? HOW DARE THAT BITCH BE VISIBLY PREGNANT ON HER SPECIAL DAY???!!!!! Unless Harry worked it into a toast, I think we're all manufacturing some ridiculous knot drama where there is none. (except in Andrew's head I guess)
I said this in the other thread, but I want to say it even MORE here. People in here talking about poor Eugenie and that this was a shitty move are HILARIOUS. Seriously? HOW DARE THAT BITCH BE VISIBLY PREGNANT ON HER SPECIAL DAY???!!!!! Unless Harry worked it into a toast, I think we're all manufacturing some ridiculous knot drama where there is none. (except in Andrew's head I guess)
Seriously. Thank you very much. Perhaps Eugenie is just, you know, happy for them. Not everyone in the world is an attention whore. I hope.
And honestly, as happy as Eugenie clearly was on Friday I don't think she'd really care. It would have been a dick move to make a public announcement Friday but I don't think it's horrible to quietly tell family at the reception. Plus they might have figured it out anyway when she didn't drink or if she was showing.
This is exactly why my husband’s side found out I was pregnant with my oldest at my SIL’s reception. For starters, it had been 7 years of IF so me not drinking and taking shots with cousins in from oot would have been highly suspect. They would have been asking right away especially since they all knew we had just gone through an IVF cycle about 8 weeks prior.
Post by thelurkylulu on Oct 15, 2018 9:41:50 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe a lot of you wouldn’t find it obnoxious if your cousin and his wife announced her pregnancy, to your family, on your wedding day, which you already had to move because they were getting married. Come on. It’s just inappropriate and tacky.
Post by Velar Fricative on Oct 15, 2018 9:42:57 GMT -5
I can't speak for the royal family but sometimes the next time you happen to see family you wish to share big news with happens to be at a family wedding. Unless someone is throwing a baby shower in the middle of the wedding then who cares?
I find it hard to believe a lot of you wouldn’t find it obnoxious if your cousin and his wife announced her pregnancy, to your family, on your wedding day, which you already had to move because they were getting married. Come on. It’s just inappropriate and tacky.
I guess it depends on your personality, but I find this idea so icky. Yes, the newlyweds are the reason for the gathering, but what kind of self-centered twats can't be happy for their family? I would have been thrilled for any of my cousins and would have been like "yes, focus on them so we can sit here and eat some cake in peace!"
There’s announced and there is ANNOUNCED. Considering this wasn’t leaked at all besides speculation because of the dress, it sounds like it was announced at the wedding by quietly telling family that should know before it’s public. And considering the speculation with the dress/coat and binder coverage yesterday, it may not have been all that necessary to even announce.
No I truly wouldn’t care if a friend or family member was pregnant at my wedding and shared with friends/family. But again, I’ve done this! I was pregnant, it was new, people realized and by the end of the first evening for a wedding weekend, we realized we should just go ahead and tell people because there was no hiding it. So we told the people we were close to and moved the hell on. It’s not that abnormal.
I find it hard to believe a lot of you wouldn’t find it obnoxious if your cousin and his wife announced her pregnancy, to your family, on your wedding day, which you already had to move because they were getting married. Come on. It’s just inappropriate and tacky.
Maybe we're people who can be happy for our cousins' good news? And I am pretty sure it was done in private conversations to each person. It's not like Harry took the mic and announced to the 700+ guests at lunch "Oh, hey by the way people! Meghan is pregnant!!". I am pretty sure most of the guests had no idea.