Mondayist of Mondays

[rere]

I am exhausted.  We camped all weekend.  The kids had a great time.  It rained Saturday.  It started pouring right at ToT and then 10 minutes later, the sky cleared and it was a beautiful afternoon.  DD hit every campsite and has a haul of candy.  DS was just happy hanging out with his buddies, driving the golf cart and checking out girls.  


Vent. We came home and a storm had blown through.  We had a tree down in the road, one down on the powerline, so no power.  Thankfully they got to it quickly.  I spent all day picking up limbs after DH chain sawed the tree out of the road.  DH had to work on DS's truck, which is still not fixed, and he takes the driver's test today. I am annoyed because it was DH's idea to fix up this thing and it was supposed to be ready.  Why we didn't just buy a little reliable car instead of fixing up this old piece of crap, is beyond me. 

Update.  Ds's doctor appointment was Friday.  His growth plates are 13.5 years which is good.  He has probably 2 years more to grow and plenty of time to take the growth hormone.  He has grown almost 2 inches since then end of June and is over 5 ft 5.  You can tell his confidence is up just watching him hang out with his friends.  He's not drastically smaller any more (although several friends are well over 6ft). He was more confident talking to girls his age. 

[covergirl82]

We had a pretty good weekend. Friday was my Friday off, and I felt like I actually had a little "me" time in between still having to call in for a 1/2 hour meeting in the morning and then running a couple errands and going to DD's class's "writing celebration" in the afternoon. Friday night we went to a Halloween party/bonfire at a friend's house.

Saturday DH left early for the annual weekend where they go to a casino a couple hours away and then to an NFL game on Sunday. I also left early on Saturday and went up north to MI wine country with a couple friends and we did a wine tasting tour. It was a super fun day. (My parents stayed with the kids and left when I got home.)

Sunday I just needed a day with some rest time, so we didn't go to church. I went to the grocery store and then did some laundry and made muffins for DS's school snack in the afternoon, but it was a relaxed pace. Then DD had Odyssey of the Mind from 4-5 and then we went to a harvest party at church after that.

[erinshelley21]

We had a pretty good weekend. I finished staining our bedroom floors and got the 2nd coat of poly on DD's floor, 2 coats on ours and 1 on DS's. DH's brother painted our hallway, stairway and foyer this weekend. Saturday night the whole town had a power outage due to a wreck, a tree falling and a transformer blowing all within an hour of each other and at least 1 mile apart from each other. I felt bad for the fire dept and thankful that DH no longer works in town so he could be home to help deal with the kids.

DD's sleeping is back to being shitty. She gets up at least once each night. DH went to her last night and she wasn't having it, so that hurt his feelings since the kids prefer me or his mom. That's always the case, but now that we are living with her he's 3rd choice and not just 2nd. So he was grumpy which left me getting my feelings hurt and crying at 12:40am because I'm just exhausted from trying to balance the house, work, being a decent mom and wife. MIL and I are going OOT this weekend with SIL for an annual shopping trip, so hopefully some time for just DH and the kids help them and I'll get some uninterrupted sleep.

[mommyatty]

This weekend was just busy. Good but busy. We had a ton of errands Saturday, then a Sunday afternoon birthday party followed by a Diwali party in the evening. DS wanted to wear “fancy” (aka Indian) clothes since his sister does, so I bought him an orange kirta to wear and he looked so stinking cute. And he felt so proud in it.

[k3am]

We had an exhausting weekend. DH has been sick since Thursday. Full on man cold, so bad that simple things like doing laundry are out of the realm of capabilities. He took Friday off work and didn't move an inch. I took the kids to the school Halloween party on Friday, he rallied for family pics at 8am on Saturday, and then back to the couch, while I took the kids to the pumpkin patch, a movie, and then a friend's house for play and dinner.

I did get to sleep in on Sunday and got breakfast in bed, but somehow, after being checked out for multiple days, he assumed that his usual habit of spending the entire Sunday watching football would be okay? I was ready to cry. I was going to take them to the kiddie amusement park, but DS was adamant about wanting to spend time at home, and DD wanted to play with the neighbors.. Next thing I know, DS was a fever, and DD is crying because the neighbor left for a soccer game...

All that to say, the weekened was far too long and not long enough. DS is feeling fine, so he's at school today, so that's a plus, at least.

[covergirl82]

erinshelley21, we started just putting down a makeshift bed (a few folded up blankets and comforter to lay on, and then a couple blankets for covering, and a pillow) on the (carpeted) floor for DD because I couldn't wake up every night in the middle of the night to get DD back to sleep. We started doing that probably 4 years ago, and DD still comes down just about every night in the middle of the night. I got to the point you are at, where it was affecting my mood and health, and just making me feel tired all the time. While the solution doesn't solve the issue (DD waking up), it saves me from getting up (although now our geriatric dog is waking up almost every night needing to go outside, so I really can't win).

[mae0111]

The weekend was busy and I was solo with the kids. DH left Thursday morning and came home Sunday afternoon. He leaves again in a few hours until late Wednesday night.

The kids and I ran some errands on Friday and then just hung out at home Friday night. DD2 had 2 soccer games on Saturday, and we all cleaned the house in between the games. I dropped DD1 off at a friend’s house on my way to game 2, and picked her up after the game and some playground time. Then DD2 has a friend over. I was curled up on the couch, half asleep, by 8pm.

Sunday DD1 had basketball at 9am, then we went to visit my parents 30 mins away. Came home to see DH and get DD1’s huge book report finished. Watched football, carved pumpkins, prepped for the next day, collapsed at 9pm, could not sleep until midnight. Typical.

DD1 started a different med on Saturday, and she seems to be tolerating it well. Very few fights. The few that we had were so ridiculous that it felt like she was searching for things to fight about.

[twinmomma]

It was a weird weekend. Only had the girls Friday night until mid way through Saturday. Instead of just taking them for the couple hours on Saturday night that I had show tickets, ExH wanted to rearrange the whole schedule and swap weekends but not really swap the whole weekend... And now I'll have them two weekends in a row to "make up for it." Who knows. Whatever.

Saturday night I went to see Glennon Doyle and a bunch of other amazing women speak. She's a personal hero of mine. Her books have gotten me through so much, especially recently. I swear, it felt like church. So many powerful, articulate women sharing their stories in a theater full of women. A beautiful choir singing in between. And it ended with everyone on their feet in a giant dance party. I've been listening to the music on loop since then. Totally burst into happy, relieved, grateful tears yesterday while having a solo dance party in my house. I finally feel like I'm making it out the other side of everything and in a really good place.

[supertrooper1]

Friday, Beau and I took our time coming home after spending the night at the hotel where his work dinner had been the night before. I picked up DS after school and we started our weekend together by going grocery shopping and making treat bags for his last soccer game Saturday. After his soccer game was his school's harvest festival.

Sunday was a down day. I spent most of the day on the couch, napping and playing on my phone. I felt bad for DS, not doing more with him, but I couldn't find the motivation to do anything which resulted in the house being a mess too.

[mustardseed2007]

rere, I'm glad things are going well on GH! We had an appointment recently. DS hasn't grown that much since the last appointment and they can't up his dose b/c his levels are on the high end. DD has grown more, which is great. I'm hoping he's just in a slow patch because he did grow during the first few months. FX!!

After being at a conference for 3 days I came home Friday and got to hang out with the kids for one day before leaving for my race with DH. I'm taking off work today and will pick them up from school.

The race went really well!!! I was able to do all 3 parts and basically within the times I wanted. The bike was BRUTAL with lots of wind. I was positive that I would not finish in time to make the overall cut off for the race but when I sat down in transition I realized I had gone faster than I thought, so I was actually fine. The run was just me being ecstatic the whole time. I did walk a bit but for the most part I ran and smiled and high fived people. And this time I had happy tears at the end!

And now no more long events this year or next year. period. It takes too much time. I'm looking forward to working out a normal amount and spending more time biking or hiking with the kids instead of teammates.

[186momx]

Friday was my off day and DH's b-day. I taught/popped popcorn at school all morning. Saw the chiro, made apple pizza pie for the girls at the gym, picked DD up and went to gymnastics. We gave DH's bday present at 9pm and both DD and I crashed. Saturday we were up and out of the house by 8 because we went to support the gymnastic team at a local meet. This put DD in a horrible funk as some of the other teams gymnasts were missing skills and DD noticed and was like hey I have better routines than that why do they get to compete and I don't. Saturday afternoon we went to the ski swap (didn't find anything in DD's size), raked/mowed leaves, and ate DH's b-day cake. Sunday was a lazy day of grocery store and more leaf pick up. I also am almost done with the PTO's Fall Ball signs. I would be done if the damn principle didn't request everything to be in Spanish too.

[callmekd]

our was a busy weekend too. MIL was here visiting so we did lots of Halloween stuff.

totally forgot that today is cleaning day and the house is not picked up. oh well.

[rere]

mustardseed2007, I think some of DS's growth is the natural spurt that he finally hit that is enhanced by the hormone. I just hope we get him to 5ft 10in which is the low end of his projected growth and he would be satisfied. He did 5 inches in a year so 5 over the next 2 shouldn't be that far off. He has really just started hitting a lot of his puberty, leg hair, facial changes, voice changes even though he is 16.

BTW, if he grows into his arms, he may be enormous. He looks like one of those California condors. I told him the GH must have settled in the arm area. His wingspan is several inches longer that mine and I am 5ft 9inches.

[mustardseed2007]

rere, oh maybe he will!! Like little puppies that have big paws!

Our endo is always measuring parts to see if some parts of them are bigger than other parts. It seems she particularly looks at if the lower half is bigger. How big your lower half is seems to be significant to them but I'm not sure why since it hasn't been an issue with our kids so we didn't really talk too much about it.

[sdlaura]

Quiet weekend, which was good since I had the worst migraine of my life starting at 2 pm on Saturday, and that put me out of commission for the rest of the day. We did have a good date night Friday night and met some friends for a few hours Saturday morning at Legoland before the headache set in. Today we have trick or treating at my office and my kids are excited.

[polecat8]

On Friday, we went to my parents house to meet my aunt and uncle for dinner.
Saturday was DS1's last soccer game of the season. Then we went to a local ToT event and then hung out at home.
On Sunday, I went for a run while DH went grocery shopping. Then the kids played outside all afternoon.

I wish the nice weather would stick around for Halloween. It is supposed to pour rain all day. We'll head to my FIL's for ToT.

[waverly]

It was a weird weekend. Saturday we had DS's soccer game early and that was fine but cold. Then it started raining, and they made DD's soccer team play in the rain. Then it was pouring.  I went to a Halloween party which was really awkward.  Family of the host didn't want to talk.  No indication where to sit, insinuated not to go downstairs where the other people ended up going, no water, cups or plates unless you asked for them.  Just vegetables and cookies and chips/ dip. 

Left that for the babysitter/ date night. We went to see a movie, and the power went out. 

Sunday was another Halloween party and DH and DS went to a sports party. The Halloween party was good. Then my schedule at work fell apart due to an employees sick relative, so it was a lot.

[rere]

DS passed his driver's test and the truck is fixed. Somehow. I have no idea what DH did to it, but it is up and going. Now I am freaking out that he is driving. I don't want him to drive to school tomorrow. I think I am going to follow them.

[Deleted]

It snowed like 4-6” last night. Delayed start for school and now I have absolutely no motivation for work since I got in 2 hours late. I think I shall leave early as well.

My DS who had his tonsils and adenoids out this month has to get 2 baby teeth pulled next month (with nitrous and our dentist doesn’t do it so he will have to see an oral surgeon) and then finally he will be able to get a palate expander. It’s crazy to me that he’s not even 8 and has to do all of this for his teeth, but we knew this was coming from the time his baby teeth came in sideways since there wasn’t room for them. Probably we should have started saving money then for all of this... I do think I’m going to push his palate expander appointment out a week so it will be in 2020 and I can use health care reimbursement money to pay for it. I just have to get the orthodontist to give me an approximate cost so I can take that into account for open enrollment next week...

I finally finished painting our guest room this weekend and we started putting stuff back. Now I just have to convince DH he doesn’t have to keep everything that was in there before, especially since most of it he didn’t even know it was in there and hasn’t touched it for 11 years. Seems like maybe he doesn’t need it as much as he thinks he does...

[waverly]

Oct 28, 2019 13:37:53 GMT -5 @mrsgreeko said:

It snowed like 4-6” last night. Delayed start for school and now I have absolutely no motivation for work since I got in 2 hours late. I think I shall leave early as well.

My DS who had his tonsils and adenoids out this month has to get 2 baby teeth pulled next month (with nitrous and our dentist doesn’t do it so he will have to see an oral surgeon) and then finally he will be able to get a palate expander. It’s crazy to me that he’s not even 8 and has to do all of this for his teeth, but we knew this was coming from the time his baby teeth came in sideways since there wasn’t room for them. Probably we should have started saving money then for all of this... I do think I’m going to push his palate expander appointment out a week so it will be in 2020 and I can use health care reimbursement money to pay for it. I just have to get the orthodontist to give me an approximate cost so I can take that into account for open enrollment next week...

I finally finished painting our guest room this weekend and we started putting stuff back. Now I just have to convince DH he doesn’t have to keep everything that was in there before, especially since most of it he didn’t even know it was in there and hasn’t touched it for 11 years. Seems like maybe he doesn’t need it as much as he thinks he does...

I keep hearing about palate extenders.  Is the point to do that rather than have wisdom teeth removed like they used to do? 

[mommyatty]

waverly- no. Some kids’ mouths are so small that even without wisdom teeth they need more space. DH had to have one. I think DS will need one eventually.

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Oct 28, 2019 13:47:08 GMT -5 waverly said:

Oct 28, 2019 13:37:53 GMT -5 @mrsgreeko said:

It snowed like 4-6” last night. Delayed start for school and now I have absolutely no motivation for work since I got in 2 hours late. I think I shall leave early as well.

My DS who had his tonsils and adenoids out this month has to get 2 baby teeth pulled next month (with nitrous and our dentist doesn’t do it so he will have to see an oral surgeon) and then finally he will be able to get a palate expander. It’s crazy to me that he’s not even 8 and has to do all of this for his teeth, but we knew this was coming from the time his baby teeth came in sideways since there wasn’t room for them. Probably we should have started saving money then for all of this... I do think I’m going to push his palate expander appointment out a week so it will be in 2020 and I can use health care reimbursement money to pay for it. I just have to get the orthodontist to give me an approximate cost so I can take that into account for open enrollment next week...

I finally finished painting our guest room this weekend and we started putting stuff back. Now I just have to convince DH he doesn’t have to keep everything that was in there before, especially since most of it he didn’t even know it was in there and hasn’t touched it for 11 years. Seems like maybe he doesn’t need it as much as he thinks he does...

I keep hearing about palate extenders.  Is the point to do that rather than have wisdom teeth removed like they used to do? 

I suspect he will still need to have his wisdom teeth out (if he has them, DH only had 2 so maybe some of our kids will get lucky). He needs a palate expander because his mouth is just too damn small for his teeth. Even his baby teeth had to come in sideways because there wasn’t room. Because he was a chronic mouth breather (due to the enlarged adenoids and tonsils) his palate didn’t develop quite right. Apparently when you breathe out of your mouth you place your tongue differently which in turn causes a more narrow palate which then causes massive teeth crowding (along with some asymmetrical jaw development). So we expand his palate to give his mouth room for his teeth to come in. Then eventually braces to straighten them out, although my dentist says they can get to 90% straight with just the palate expander.

My cousin also was probably a chronic mouth breather (due to major allergies) and just got a palate expander this summer at 13 for crowding. They didn’t get her adenoids and tonsils out. This is all apparently a pretty new school of thought in dentistry and orthodontia. It’s really cool though.

[covergirl82]

Oct 28, 2019 13:55:11 GMT -5 @mrsgreeko said:

Oct 28, 2019 13:47:08 GMT -5 waverly said:

I keep hearing about palate extenders.  Is the point to do that rather than have wisdom teeth removed like they used to do? 

I suspect he will still need to have his wisdom teeth out (if he has them, DH only had 2 so maybe some of our kids will get lucky). He needs a palate expander because his mouth is just too damn small for his teeth. Even his baby teeth had to come in sideways because there wasn’t room. Because he was a chronic mouth breather (due to the enlarged adenoids and tonsils) his palate didn’t develop quite right. Apparently when you breathe out of your mouth you place your tongue differently which in turn causes a more narrow palate which then causes massive teeth crowding (along with some asymmetrical jaw development). So we expand his palate to give his mouth room for his teeth to come in. Then eventually braces to straighten them out, although my dentist says they can get to 90% straight with just the palate expander.

My cousin also was probably a chronic mouth breather (due to major allergies) and just got a palate expander this summer at 13 for crowding. They didn’t get her adenoids and tonsils out. This is all apparently a pretty new school of thought in dentistry and orthodontia. It’s really cool though.

Both my kids had an expander put in before braces (DS age 9, DD age 8).  Our orthodontist prefers to do expanders in kids who haven't hit puberty yet, because the palate hasn't fused.  If he can put an expander in before the palate fuses, then it doesn't need to be in as long, and it is less painful.  He did not mention anything about wisdom teeth.

DD is a chronic mouth breather due to allergies, so she had a more narrow palate because of that and as a result, lots of crowding.  (To the point the ortho was concerned that crowding would hurt roots on adult teeth.)  The expander was put on in July, and it will come off in early December.  After only a few weeks, I noticed her two top front teeth had already straightened out noticeably (they were overlapping).  She does have braces now (and so did DS), but as with the expander, they won't need them on for years...only about 10 or so months (and then they wear a retainer for a long time, only at night after the first 6 months).

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covergirl82 what kind of cost is a palate expander? Is it like in the hundreds of dollars or thousands? It doesn’t have to be exact, just the neighborhood. Trying to figure out how much to withhold in my health care reimbursement account. .

[twinmomma]

Oct 28, 2019 13:51:33 GMT -5 mommyatty said:

waverly - no. Some kids’ mouths are so small that even without wisdom teeth they need more space. DH had to have one. I think DS will need one eventually.

I had a palate expander, braces, and wisdom teeth out. My teeth still ended up overlapping in the front slightly because there's just no room. Every dentist I go to remarks on how ridiculously small my jaw is and how difficult it is to work on me. I still can't believe how much my poor parents must have spent for me to end up with crossed teeth. I feel so bad. 

[186momx]

I had expanders and all sorts of ortho stuff as a kid and still had my wisdom teeth pulled. Not because they had no room they just were coming in sideways so was going to undo all the years of appliances and braces.

@mrsgreeko, your son's dentist doesn't pull teeth in office? DD's pedi dentist pulled a tooth when DD was 4, done baby root canals with temporary crowns also at 4, and fillings all in office. DD hasn't been put under for any of this but did have the liquid medicine that made her loopy for the crowns/tooth pull. I know if the kid has to go under our dentist does it but it has to be scheduled at the hospital.

[sdlaura]

Speaking of kid dental work, I decline the laughing gas for my kids and our dentist and staff kind of make me feel like I'm a child abuser. It's an out of pocket cost, I never had it as a kid, and I don't want having a cavity filled to be completely enjoyable because I'd like some disincentive for the kids to get cavities. Anyone else decline the gas?

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Oct 28, 2019 16:19:23 GMT -5 186momx said:

I had expanders and all sorts of ortho stuff as a kid and still had my wisdom teeth pulled. Not because they had no room they just were coming in sideways so was going to undo all the years of appliances and braces.

@mrsgreeko, your son's dentist doesn't pull teeth in office? DD's pedi dentist pulled a tooth when DD was 4, done baby root canals with temporary crowns also at 4, and fillings all in office. DD hasn't been put under for any of this but did have the liquid medicine that made her loopy for the crowns/tooth pull. I know if the kid has to go under our dentist does it but it has to be scheduled at the hospital.

Our dentist just doesn’t have nitrous in the office and for these teeth and DSs age he feels like the nitrous is necessary. . He has pulled teeth for my oldest DD in office before, but they were loose already and she was older so he didn’t need nitrous. Shrug, I love my dentist, I’ve been seeing him since I was a teenager, but he does things a little different sometimes because he’s just a small practice (just him, no hygienist, no secretary...).

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Oct 28, 2019 16:34:10 GMT -5 sdlaura said:

Speaking of kid dental work, I decline the laughing gas for my kids and our dentist and staff kind of make me feel like I'm a child abuser. It's an out of pocket cost, I never had it as a kid, and I don't want having a cavity filled to be completely enjoyable because I'd like some disincentive for the kids to get cavities. Anyone else decline the gas?

Hell I moved my kids away from the pediatric dentist we were using to my regular dentist because they wanted to use nitrous in my oldest DD for sealants. Haha. They haven’t had any fillings, but my dentist doesn’t have nitrous in his office so they would get filled without nitrous... . My DS will have nitrous for these upcoming tooth extractions only because my dentist who I trust a lot thinks it will be necessary (and obviously he doesn’t often feel that way since he doesn’t have nitrous).

ETA: my dentist also didn’t feel the sealants were necessary period so we didn’t get them at all, but I was not happy they were willy nilly using nitrous.

[k3am]

Oct 28, 2019 16:34:10 GMT -5 sdlaura said:

Speaking of kid dental work, I decline the laughing gas for my kids and our dentist and staff kind of make me feel like I'm a child abuser. It's an out of pocket cost, I never had it as a kid, and I don't want having a cavity filled to be completely enjoyable because I'd like some disincentive for the kids to get cavities. Anyone else decline the gas?

If your kid is able to tolerate it, I don't see a reason to bother. 

We have special circumstances. DD has developed a very healthy fear of needles, and she's strong. I had to fight for it, but she gets gas or versed before her MRI's now, since we are physically incapable of holding her down for them to place an IV. It's not fair to any of us to straight jacket her and have 4-5 people holding her down while placing an IV when we can give her drugs to make it less traumatic for everyone involved. But for DS's MRI? We made him suck it up and get the IV as the sole source. 

I very much roll my eyes at one of DD's friend's parents that is going to change pediatricians since the one they went to won't use a numbing spray before doing vaccines. I didn't even know that was a thing.