This is infuriating and I can't believe that there are actually people defending this guy. He is 1000% in the wrong and he's damn lucky that I wasn't the person sitting in front of him because fuck that noise he would've been wearing that free rum. The seat reclines. Deal with it like an actual adult.
Post by fivechickens on Feb 14, 2020 8:07:05 GMT -5
I wonder if he was able to pick seats and chose the last one. If so, that makes him a bigger dick than he already is. Everyone knows the last seat doesn’t recline.
It's a chain reaction though. If she can't recline but the person in front of her does, then all this guy has done is trade his discomfort for hers. Obviously he doesnt care, but I feel like a normal person should get that.
It is never ok to punch someone's seat, so I'm on team woman.
I hate the reclining thing too... I have long legs and I'm a bigger person so I have no room to begin with. But it's still an expected part of flying. Airlines are the worst but that isn't exactly a secret.
Agreed. Aside from the violence and intimidation, the entitlement is really galling. Who the fuck does he think he is, if he booked later or paid a lower fare that didn’t allow seat selection or whatever, to expect another person to “trade” that with him.
I have, on occasion, traded seats with someone when asked, like when I got an exit row seat I didn’t pay extra for, or when a family couldn’t book seats together. But they weren’t entitled to it, and if they were an asshole I would have said no.
Post by Jalapeñomel on Feb 14, 2020 8:20:12 GMT -5
I do not understand the other side of the argument. She should be uncomfortable, so he can be comfortable? If the person in front of her reclined, she's expected to just deal with it? If this had been a guy who reclined, would this guy do the same thing?
I cannot go to Twitter...what is the airline doing, if anything?
can anyone show me how on earth anyone would be defending this person?
it's not ideal when someone in front of you reclines, but this is 100% not the right response. if it's true that she put her seat up so he could eat, then that is more than she had to do. period. there is absolutely NO reason he needs to have his phone on the tray like that and he acting like a huge d-bag.
i assume the internet has tracked this jerk down by now?
I do not understand the other side of the argument. She should be uncomfortable, so he can be comfortable? If the person in front of her reclined, she's expected to just deal with it? If this had been a guy who reclined, would this guy do the same thing?
I cannot go to Twitter...what is the airline doing, if anything?
Yeah, I want to know how the airline is responding? Because they should have shut this shit down.
Whether you’re pro-reclining or not, it doesn’t justify someone shaking and punching your seat. Every time I see this video, I get so uncomfortable. Something about being trapped on a plane with a person behind you like this is terrifying.
My quick rundown on twitter shows that it's all men saying she shouldn't recline. These are probably the same men who think their junk is so big they need to sit with their legs wide open:
It's a chain reaction though. If she can't recline but the person in front of her does, then all this guy has done is trade his discomfort for hers. Obviously he doesnt care, but I feel like a normal person should get that.
It is never ok to punch someone's seat, so I'm on team woman.
I hate the reclining thing too... I have long legs and I'm a bigger person so I have no room to begin with. But it's still an expected part of flying. Airlines are the worst but that isn't exactly a secret.
Agreed. Aside from the violence and intimidation, the entitlement is really galling. Who the fuck does he think he is, if he booked later or paid a lower fare that didn’t allow seat selection or whatever, to expect another person to “trade” that with him.
I have, on occasion, traded seats with someone when asked, like when I got an exit row seat I didn’t pay extra for, or when a family couldn’t book seats together. But they weren’t entitled to it, and if they were an asshole I would have said no.
The guy is a jerk no doubt but I really think you are reaching here. If he wasn't a white male you would not describe his actions as violent. (Insert giant eye roll)
Agreed. Aside from the violence and intimidation, the entitlement is really galling. Who the fuck does he think he is, if he booked later or paid a lower fare that didn’t allow seat selection or whatever, to expect another person to “trade” that with him.
I have, on occasion, traded seats with someone when asked, like when I got an exit row seat I didn’t pay extra for, or when a family couldn’t book seats together. But they weren’t entitled to it, and if they were an asshole I would have said no.
The guy is a jerk no doubt but I really think you are reaching here. If he wasn't a white male you would not describe his actions as violent. (Insert giant eye roll)
WHAT?!?! His actions were 100% violent and meant to intimidate this woman, race has nothing to do with it.
The guy is a jerk no doubt but I really think you are reaching here. If he wasn't a white male you would not describe his actions as violent. (Insert giant eye roll)
WHAT?!?! His actions were 100% violent and meant to intimidate this woman, race has nothing to do with it.
If you consider his immature baby man behavior as "violent" I hope you never experience REAL violence against women. He is an immature jerk but calling his behavior violent diminishes real, actual violence against women.
Fuck this guy. And fuck airlines for cramming people in to unreasonably small spaces.
yes. The issue here is not that the woman reclined (which, yes, if I were him I would be annoyed but like others, I would silently seethe.) but that the plane allows folks to recline SO much in such small spaces.
But fuck him for acting like a petulant child. I would be PISSED if I were her.
Agreed. Aside from the violence and intimidation, the entitlement is really galling. Who the fuck does he think he is, if he booked later or paid a lower fare that didn’t allow seat selection or whatever, to expect another person to “trade” that with him.
I have, on occasion, traded seats with someone when asked, like when I got an exit row seat I didn’t pay extra for, or when a family couldn’t book seats together. But they weren’t entitled to it, and if they were an asshole I would have said no.
The guy is a jerk no doubt but I really think you are reaching here. If he wasn't a white male you would not describe his actions as violent. (Insert giant eye roll)
This is absolutely violence and intimidation. Insert eye roll that you think its appropriate to bang on a seat that someone is sitting in because he doesn’t like how you’re sitting in it. So am I allowed to run into the back of your vehicle on the highway because I want you to move? It’s not actually putting your hands on the person, but it’s absolutely meant to show the person that you are going to intimidate them until they do what you want.
WHAT?!?! His actions were 100% violent and meant to intimidate this woman, race has nothing to do with it.
If you consider his immature baby man behavior as "violent" I hope you never experience REAL violence against women. He is an immature jerk but calling his behavior violent diminishes real, actual violence against women.
You’re projecting here. Just because he didn’t physically punch her doesn’t mean it’s not an act of violence
“With sorrow—for this Court, but more, for the many millions of American women who have today lost a fundamental constitutional protection—we dissent,”
WHAT?!?! His actions were 100% violent and meant to intimidate this woman, race has nothing to do with it.
If you consider his immature baby man behavior as "violent" I hope you never experience REAL violence against women. He is an immature jerk but calling his behavior violent diminishes real, actual violence against women.
Actually, I was in a physically abusive relationship, so fuck you.
Agreed. Aside from the violence and intimidation, the entitlement is really galling. Who the fuck does he think he is, if he booked later or paid a lower fare that didn’t allow seat selection or whatever, to expect another person to “trade” that with him.
I have, on occasion, traded seats with someone when asked, like when I got an exit row seat I didn’t pay extra for, or when a family couldn’t book seats together. But they weren’t entitled to it, and if they were an asshole I would have said no.
The guy is a jerk no doubt but I really think you are reaching here. If he wasn't a white male you would not describe his actions as violent. (Insert giant eye roll)
Correction: If he wasn't white and male (and she wasn't female) he wouldn't be pulling this shit.
Post by sparkythelawyer on Feb 14, 2020 9:49:03 GMT -5
They are both assholes. He wins the asshole gold, because no matter what, WE DON'T HIT, JUNIOR. She gets the silver.
People who recline in front of me get my knees pressed into the back of their seat with minimal guilt on my part. None of us have any room. Suck it up.
And she knew damn well he had no where to go, so she basically just decided "Fuck you, I'm taking my space AND yours."
No hitting, but keep your damn seat up. You want more space? Go buy economy plus.
sparkythelawyer from what I understand the person in front of her was reclining so to get room herself she reclined. *shrug* I'm team no one recline their seat personally. There's just no room.
I do not understand the other side of the argument. She should be uncomfortable, so he can be comfortable? If the person in front of her reclined, she's expected to just deal with it? If this had been a guy who reclined, would this guy do the same thing?
I cannot go to Twitter...what is the airline doing, if anything?
Yeah, I want to know how the airline is responding? Because they should have shut this shit down.
According to the woman’s original tweet, the flight attendants admonished her and sided with him.
I am team if the seat reclines, I recline to sleep but I never recline the entire way. This guy is such an asshole.
My H is one of those people who NEVER recline, even if the person in front of him is fully reclined. He is also 6'6 and incredibly cramped in any airplane seat so it boggles my mind that he still refuses to recline.
sparkythelawyer from what I understand the person in front of her was reclining so to get room herself she reclined. *shrug* I'm team no one recline their seat personally. There's just no room.
Yep, and when some jackass did that to me when I was pregnant and reclined so far that he sent my tray into my belly, I glowered, I glared at him in baggage claim, I stared him down when it turns out he worked for my company, but I didn't then turn around and take it out on the guy behind me.
I was on a transatlantic overnight flight a couple years ago where the woman behind me did this to me the entire night, and was grumbling and complaining loudly that my seat was reclined and was taking up her space. She kept kicking my chair so hard that the recline mechanism actually broke and then I couldn't unrecline it, even when I wanted to.
The kickers were that I was also holding a lap infant the entire flight, and the woman made a huge fucking deal when she kicked me so hard the baby woke up and cried. And best yet, her seat (and everyone else's, since we were all trying to sleep) was also fucking reclined the entire time.