It May be dividing my family soon. My sister just texted she’s looking at venues for her wedding (Which she was going to put on hold til next year bc they were *barely* starting the planning stages when the pandemic hit) At the end of next month. I—-am not excited. I don’t even feel comfortable going to the fucking gym or salon, but they want me to bring my kids 1400 miles for a 65 - 100 person wedding in a pandemic.
This is going to destroy the little relationship I have left with my sister and make me the bad guy to my parents if this goes through. H refuses to let the kids go (and I don’t think he’s wrong. I will not force the issue) and if I go, he will want me to quarantine for 2 weeks.
She can want what she wants but it sucks that I’ll be the bitch if I decide I don’t want to take such risks.
We are going through the same situation,. My BIL is getting married in Dallas Aug 1st. We live in NJ. We will not be attending and are getting shit about it. My MIL lives in Fl. She and her husband will be driving to TX to attend the weeding. She is 82! The wedding will have about 100 people. My H has been fighting with his brother for months about this. Why cant he postpone until next year? This is his 2nd wedding, they already live together, whats the rush? Why put anyone at risk, especially your 82 year old mother?
My H has been trying to talk her out of going, but with no luck. God forbid she gets sick, my H will never forgive him. Not to mention Dallas is on a steady increase for Covid.
Post by textbookcase on Jun 15, 2020 11:04:36 GMT -5
It’s been pretty divisive for me with friends. In my friend group, only one other couple has been taking things as seriously as I have. I have done a few socially distant hangouts with them (outside, masks, 6 ft+ space). Most of my other friends have been hanging out in large groups/gatherings the whole time, and they roll their eyes or tease when I refuse to participate. My kids friends have all been hanging out with each other, while mine have been quarantined since March. I finally took them on a camping trip last week, which was a nice, socially distant break. It’s been hard.
My area in general seems to be giving up on the orders in place, which to me is INSANE. I understand that the curve is flattening in other places, but it’s rapidly rising in my area. We are the worst county in cases per capita in California. We have 2 tiny hospitals, which have been pushed to capacity and are diverting patients to other hospitals through the state. The county is pushing to reopen while ignoring the data and metrics that must be met for reopening. I work front desk/retail at a small salon/boutique and we recently reopened the boutique part to in store customers again. Thankfully everyone seems to be complying with masks etc. but the whole thing freaks me out.
Lurker but TIP is pretty quiet. I'm in a weird situation. I have had the virus, I am not nervous about getting it again.I'm in a study donating my blood for research because of my antibody count. I do however still wear a mask out in public. So many in my area are. I'm apart of a bigger community and its such a small thing to do.
Things are opening up in my city. I've gone out to lunch and dinner and sat on patios. Its a weird line I'm trying to walk to help smaller businesses and restaurants where I can.
My parents are still pretty locked down. They will let me come hang out on their patio with them. My Mom takes medicine that compromises her immune system so she doesn't leave the house. Then I have My in-laws going around like everything is normal. My father-in-law has COPD and contracting the virus could very well hospitalize him or worse.
I've just decided I need to focus on myself and my H. His mental health has taken a huge hit because of this. So I'm doing what's good for our little family and being could out in the world. I.e. lunch on a patio this weekend and a massive bike ride helped my mental health and my h's more than anything has in weeks.
This week, we started to do a bit more. We picked a cool night to go to a lakefront brewery. We probably had a 20-foot bubble between us and other people at our outdoor picnic table, and it was the most fun I have had in months! On warm nights, it is crowded so we probably won’t go back for awhile. When H and I drove by and saw that our favorite Mexican restaurant patio was pretty empty, we dropped the kids with Grandpa and had our first date since January. I felt really comfortable with those things since we were still very distanced.
Post by RoxMonster on Jun 15, 2020 12:52:59 GMT -5
We have people here protesting that the local health department shut down an indoor buffet and made them serve outdoors in accordance with the state's reopening plan. I mean, you've got the right to protest this but LOL ok. A lot of the FB commenters are saying "We just need to get back to normal and let the scared sheeple stay inside." I do judge comments like that. It's not about being "scared;" it's about trying to keep yourself and others safe. And I hate those comments because it's a privilege to get to just stay inside and never leave your house, a privilege many people don't have. So yes, you (FB commenter) wandering around in public without a mask does affect others who have no choice but to go to work, etc. in public. Also, as more things open up, a lot of the curbside and delivery options stores had been offering will probably disappear as they resume normal operations, so those won't be options for anyone anymore.
We have people here protesting that the local health department shut down an indoor buffet and made them serve outdoors in accordance with the state's reopening plan. I mean, you've got the right to protest this but LOL ok. A lot of the FB commenters are saying "We just need to get back to normal and let the scared sheeple stay inside." I do judge comments like that. It's not about being "scared;" it's about trying to keep yourself and others safe. And I hate those comments because it's a privilege to get to just stay inside and never leave your house, a privilege many people don't have. So yes, you (FB commenter) wandering around in public without a mask does affect others who have no choice but to go to work, etc. in public. Also, as more things open up, a lot of the curbside and delivery options stores had been offering will probably disappear as they resume normal operations, so those won't be options for anyone anymore.
I saw that and seriously rolled my eyes because, seriously?
I think a lot of the vitriol for wearing masks & reopening 100% at normal is because our area DIDN'T get hit seriously hard (yet). The fear isn't there...
Post by dirtybella on Jun 15, 2020 17:47:04 GMT -5
My husband told me a coworker’s mom tested positive. Said coworker lives with him mom, and still showed up to work today. No masks or hand washing has been happening because they are electricians and “our hands are always dirty”. I don’t understand why people can’t follow directions. You live with someone who tested positive, you should in turn stay home and monitor your symptoms.
So, I started back at my retail job last week. As an employee I am required to wear a mask. BUT we are not "requiring" patrons to wear one. We have slightly ambiguous signage asking people to follow the lead of the employees and wear one, but the word "required" is not on there and it is in fact optional. I live in a hard-hit county in SE PA so people just assume you need to wear one, and I have not had one single customer not wear one but if someone came in without one, I wouldn't ask them to put one on.
The reasoning behind this is we are trying to avoid a confrontational situation and keep employees safe from any sort of retaliation. My store brand is part of a large nationwide corporation and I think this policy is across the board. It's funny because we literally sell masks online.
This is interesting. I’m in Philly and masks are required in businesses. Signage says it explicitly. Maybe it’s just my neighborhood?
It is my understanding that masks are required in businesses in all of Pennsylvania. However, this past weekend I went back to the rural Western Pennsylvania county where I grew up. I stopped at a convenience store (Sheetz). (This was in the only community in the entire county that is big enough to have a Sheetz.) The sign on the door said that masks were required. All of the employees were wearing masks. However, only about 20% of the customers were wearing masks. People were standing in line and paying without wearing masks.
My dad told me that very few of the customers in the local butcher shop wear masks.
Now, I thought that this was interesting because the local Western Pennsylvania grocery store chain (Giant Eagle) just received notice that they were being sued for refusing to serve a man (who claimed to be a disabled veteran) who refused to wear a mask and who claimed that his refusal was due to health reasons.
susquehanna, our Sheetz has signs up saying that masks are required but that "they will assume you have a medical condition if you aren't wearing one" (or something to that effect). That's probably why most were not wearing since they aren't really enforcing it
Wolf has said they're not required, but that stores should be requiring them of their customers. That really clears things up! We have a vacation house in PA. There's not much around there, but the places we've gone to all have signs saying that masks are required to enter. The few times I've been in a store, everyone has been wearing masks.
Post by susquehanna on Jun 16, 2020 8:55:04 GMT -5
I am Facebook friends with a married couple because I went to college with both of them.
On Memorial Day weekend, "the husband" shared some Facebook meme about how he and his family weren't going to go to any picnics because they were smart and they didn't want to die. (Yes, the post really did use the words "smart" and "die" in it.)
Then, last weekend, I saw that "the wife" was tagged in several group photos with some other people that were my former college classmates and are now my Facebook friends. The photos were all of events that happened the same weekend that they were posted on Facebook. They were all wearing masks, but the masks were down for the group photos. They were all posed together on a group trip to the Pittsburgh zoo, to an ice cream parlor, and to a large outlet mall outside of Pittsburgh. The group photos included parts of 3 different non-related households and that at least 10 people from these 3 families were on the group trip. At least one of these households now resides in a different state (in the midwest), and that particular family had made a road trip to Western Pennsylvania for the week. (I know all of this because I knew all of the families that were in the photo.)
So, if "the wife" felt comfortable with taking this risk, then she felt comfortable taking the risk. I just found the entire thing hilarious since her husband was so judgmental on Facebook about other people's choices a few weeks ago.
susquehanna, our Sheetz has signs up saying that masks are required but that "they will assume you have a medical condition if you aren't wearing one" (or something to that effect). That's probably why most were not wearing since they aren't really enforcing it
Ugh really. That really shows how little they think of their employees. Crossing them off the list.
Post by susquehanna on Jun 16, 2020 9:14:57 GMT -5
In regards to families: my husband has an aunt and uncle who are in their mid- 60's who also live in the Pittsburgh area. The uncle has a suppressed immune system and he has had a lot of health problems in the past. Back in mid-March, he actually thought that he had Covid-19 and he went to get tested. He tested negative for Covid-19.
The aunt and uncle have announced (and they reiterated less than a week ago) that they will not be going ANYWHERE or socializing with ANYBODY until a working vaccine is available. My father-in-law, who is in his early 70's (and has his own serious health conditions), was really taken aback by this. He suggested that he thought that the aunt and uncle were making too big a deal out of the entire thing. We had to explain to my father-in-law that the aunt and uncle are actually using good judgment to make this decision for themselves. We also suggested to the father-in-law (this past weekend) that he give some serious thought to the risk that still exists to his own health.
I saw a video taken in a bagel store in Queens. Someone was not wearing a mask. Another customer spoke to the manager to say they should be enforcing the mask wearing. The woman without the mask started fighting and walked around coughing on the woman. A sign saying they assume anyone without a mask has a medical condition might be protection for their own employees. They have been through enough working through all of this and they should not be tasked with confronting people.
susquehanna , our Sheetz has signs up saying that masks are required but that "they will assume you have a medical condition if you aren't wearing one" (or something to that effect). That's probably why most were not wearing since they aren't really enforcing it
Ugh really. That really shows how little they think of their employees. Crossing them off the list.
Yes, and an employee at the Sheetz up the street from me actually had Covid-19. It was in the newspaper (she wasn't named of course), but I felt so bad for the employee because everyone knew it was her (small town). You'd think they'd want to protect their employees better, right?
I am Facebook friends with a married couple because I went to college with both of them.
On Memorial Day weekend, "the husband" shared some Facebook meme about how he and his family weren't going to go to any picnics because they were smart and they didn't want to die. (Yes, the post really did use the words "smart" and "die" in it.)
Then, last weekend, I saw that "the wife" was tagged in several group photos with some other people that were my former college classmates and are now my Facebook friends. The photos were all of events that happened the same weekend that they were posted on Facebook. They were all wearing masks, but the masks were down for the group photos. They were all posed together on a group trip to the Pittsburgh zoo, to an ice cream parlor, and to a large outlet mall outside of Pittsburgh. The group photos included parts of 3 different non-related households and that at least 10 people from these 3 families were on the group trip. At least one of these households now resides in a different state (in the midwest), and that particular family had made a road trip to Western Pennsylvania for the week. (I know all of this because I knew all of the families that were in the photo.)
So, if "the wife" felt comfortable with taking this risk, then she felt comfortable taking the risk. I just found the entire thing hilarious since her husband was so judgmental on Facebook about other people's choices a few weeks ago.
Why are the husband and the wife in quotation marks??
Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent.
Ugh really. That really shows how little they think of their employees. Crossing them off the list.
Yes, and an employee at the Sheetz up the street from me actually had Covid-19. It was in the newspaper (she wasn't named of course), but I felt so bad for the employee because everyone knew it was her (small town). You'd think they'd want to protect their employees better, right?
I saw a video taken in a bagel store in Queens. Someone was not wearing a mask. Another customer spoke to the manager to say they should be enforcing the mask wearing. The woman without the mask started fighting and walked around coughing on the woman. A sign saying they assume anyone without a mask has a medical condition might be protection for their own employees. They have been through enough working through all of this and they should not be tasked with confronting people.
There is a big difference between not confronting people (which I understand totally; people are crazy) and putting up a wink wink nudge nudge sign telling people they will assume they have a health condition that prevents them from wearing a mask if they enter unmasked.
There is zero need for any sign about mask wearing except if they are required to post the state/county guidelines. This sign is just signaling that they don’t agree with mask wearing and that you are free to come in unmasked.
Post by mrsukyankee on Jun 17, 2020 8:57:45 GMT -5
We're in London. While the UK's numbers are going down, London is still an area with big numbers and England's numbers are NOT going down. Things are opening up and the gov't has basically begun to act as if nothing is happening any longer and so many people have stopped doing anything. There are less masks, less social distancing, etc.
My MIL is at risk, so we're trying to be safe - wearing masks when shopping, trying to social distance and not going on public transport. We have had one couple over twice for a social distance drink and a social distance bbq. They are also super safe/mask wearing so it feels okay. We're also socially distancing socialising with our neighbours on Thursday nights - we all bring out a drink at 7pm and chat. It's helped us all a lot. I won't get my hair done for at least a month or two after it all opens up in early July just in case.