J&J on Monday!!! I’m torn between being SO excited and also a bit disappointed/nervous it’s J&J given the others have 90+% efficacy and the recent news about the mishap with this vaccine, but SUPER EXCITED THAT I WILL BE FULLY VACCINATED IN 2+ WEEKS!
Anyone care to share experience with J&J? So much conversation around side effects is with the 2-dose vaccines. Also, any thoughts/research on future boosters? Are H and I stuck in J&J or will we move to Pfizer/Moderna in future years?
What's happening now in MI is really scary. I'm not nearly as optimistic as I was a week or two ago. Hopefully the rate of vaccine wasn't high enough in MI to stop this current outbreak and that since the vaccine pace has picked up now we won't see this spread. Time will tell. Hope you guys peak soon.
Unsurprisingly, Detroit lags in vaccines. I wonder why... I did not put a spoiler. Wtf is this here?
Nearly 80% of Detroit’s population is Black, according to the latest U.S. Census estimates, while Black people comprised just 13% of those vaccinated at the Ford Field site since it opened March 23, according to state data.
...big mass vaccination sites are of limited help.
Many residents who are older, living in poverty or struggling with health issues, either can’t get to Ford Field, or are too scared to take public buses, she said.
“Don’t tell me Black people don’t want the vaccine. It’s an issue of access,” she said. (a NP) [but then the article of course goes on to discuss how Black people don’t want the vaccine anyway]
Another reason Detroit lags behind the rest of the state is because early allocations of the vaccine went mainly to health systems and retail pharmacies in the suburbs, said Hakim Berry, the city’s operating chief.
Didn’t the Detroit mayor turn down doses of the J&J shot, too? That decision is not aging well. But yes lack of accessibility is a giant problem everywhere. Right now getting a vaccine is a privilege and depends on your internet access/job flexibility.
I don't think I was the only one on this board that participated in sending blood samples to the NIH. But last year (I can't remember the exact month last year I sent my blood in) and then again this year the NIH collected blood samples from people to try to determine how many undiagnosed cases of covid there might have been. We didn't get our individual results. I just got notification that the study is now preprint (so not peer reviewed).
And they're saying based on the blood samples they ran they've calculated that last year in spring and early summer for every diagnosed covid case there were 4.8 undiagnosed cases. And that there were an estimated 16.8 million undiagnosed cases by mid-July. It also includes demographic data.
I'll be interested to read the entire study once it's peer reviewed and released.
My neighbor is leaving to go to Brazil soon 😳. I gave her several of my Kn5s but I feel like bwhat else can I do? Outside of her spreading covid she is 70 and her partner isn't in great health. Her daughter was texting me upset about it but can't stop her either, it's so upsetting. She is normally fairly conscious so I hope she quarantines when she gets home.
My neighbor is leaving to go to Brazil soon 😳. I gave her several of my Kn5s but I feel like bwhat else can I do? Outside of her spreading covid she is 70 and her partner isn't in great health. Her daughter was texting me upset about it but can't stop her either, it's so upsetting. She is normally fairly conscious so I hope she quarantines when she gets home.
Ask her if she has a medical POA and a will and then Godspeed. And Play “Boomers Got the Vax” very loud on the regular
This is purely anecdotal, and not meant to scare anyone, but the strain(s) going around MI right now are no joke. Pretty much everyone I know has an outbreak at their work right now. I know 4 people in the past couple of weeks who have spent a week or more in the hospital. And I’m starting to get a little more concerned about how effective the vaccines are against the new strains. I know 3 people who are fully vaccinated (as in, at least a month past their last dose - 1 Moderna, 1 Pfizer, 1 I don’t know which) who were just diagnosed. They are in the same extended family, so likely infected with the same strain. Thankfully they all have a mild case so far. Intellectually I know that the vaccines aren’t 100%, and that the most important part is protecting people from serious illness/death, but it’s still a wake up call to me that we aren’t out of the woods yet.
I hope your friends are ok! It sounds like the vaccine is doing what it's supposed to do with mild cases. I think the cdc was in between a rock and a hard place in regards to the new recommendation re: flying because people are doing what they want generally. And hopefully it'll encourage more people to get vaccinated since it's now deemed safer to do with a vaccine. But they still don't recommend flying for non-essential reasons and I think this is exactly why.
J&J on Monday!!! I’m torn between being SO excited and also a bit disappointed/nervous it’s J&J given the others have 90+% efficacy and the recent news about the mishap with this vaccine, but SUPER EXCITED THAT I WILL BE FULLY VACCINATED IN 2+ WEEKS!
Anyone care to share experience with J&J? So much conversation around side effects is with the 2-dose vaccines. Also, any thoughts/research on future boosters? Are H and I stuck in J&J or will we move to Pfizer/Moderna in future years?
I got the J&J shortly after it was approved, 4 weeks ago tomorrow. I had very little in the way of side effects - sore arm, a little stiffness when I got up the next day. My head felt a little funny the next morning but that also could have been sinuses because my allergies had just started kicking up. It was fine after a couple hours.
I got scheduled for my first vax appointment this week, and next Saturday I'm signed up for my first volunteer shift at one of our mass clinics.
I've been reading a book called The Ghost Map about a cholera outbreak in London in the 1850s. At one point the author is talking about bacterial mutation tendencies (which I would think would also hold true for viral ones) and makes the point that in high-transmission environments, more virulent/lethal forms of a disease are favored -- if spread is fast and easy, it doesn't matter if a host dies quickly because there will still be time to reproduce/move to the next host. Whereas if spread is controlled, the milder strains that can live successfully in a person's body for a longer time (the ones that can make you sick but aren't necessarily so deadly) come to dominate because they have a better chance of passing themselves on, while the deadlier strains basically burn out.
Amid all the talk of variants developing, I hadn't heard it explained quite that way -- that there's a direct relationship between the rate of spread and the nature of the mutations that emerge and dominate. So yeah, that was sobering to say the least, especially when combined with all the ways that covid is already really good at spreading (long incubation period, significant asymptomatic spread, etc.).
Today, DH and I were helping a friend of a friend move, along with a handful of other folks. All masked, of course. But, damn, it felt _good_ to be able to get out and do that sort of thing again.
We realized that within our group helping out we were all at least one dose in, about half of us with both. And those with only one dose are scheduled for their second within a week.
I am _really_ going to be hurting tomorrow. Too sedentary during Covid, but, all in all, it was a good day.
Also - I might always wear a mask when I help someone move. I've never not had sinus crud/headaches/crappy coughing/etc from the dust/dander/whatever allergen was waiting to attack me before, and right now, I'm just sort from moving stuff...
I don't think I was the only one on this board that participated in sending blood samples to the NIH. But last year (I can't remember the exact month last year I sent my blood in) and then again this year the NIH collected blood samples from people to try to determine how many undiagnosed cases of covid there might have been. We didn't get our individual results. I just got notification that the study is now preprint (so not peer reviewed).
And they're saying based on the blood samples they ran they've calculated that last year in spring and early summer for every diagnosed covid case there were 4.8 undiagnosed cases. And that there were an estimated 16.8 million undiagnosed cases by mid-July. It also includes demographic data.
I'll be interested to read the entire study once it's peer reviewed and released.
My neighbor is leaving to go to Brazil soon 😳. I gave her several of my Kn5s but I feel like bwhat else can I do? Outside of her spreading covid she is 70 and her partner isn't in great health. Her daughter was texting me upset about it but can't stop her either, it's so upsetting. She is normally fairly conscious so I hope she quarantines when she gets home.
Why is she going to Brazil? I wouldn't go for many reasons, including Covid, right now. Things are in total disarray and unrest, from what my friends in Brazil have noted.
J&J on Monday!!! I’m torn between being SO excited and also a bit disappointed/nervous it’s J&J given the others have 90+% efficacy and the recent news about the mishap with this vaccine, but SUPER EXCITED THAT I WILL BE FULLY VACCINATED IN 2+ WEEKS!
Anyone care to share experience with J&J? So much conversation around side effects is with the 2-dose vaccines. Also, any thoughts/research on future boosters? Are H and I stuck in J&J or will we move to Pfizer/Moderna in future years?
I got J&J on Thu. That night, I was achy and had a headache, and I was exhausted. The headache lasted through Fri but the aches went away. A couple coworkers went to the same clinic and one had the same side effects, and the other had a fever of 100 that night but it went away Fri morning.
I don't think I was the only one on this board that participated in sending blood samples to the NIH. But last year (I can't remember the exact month last year I sent my blood in) and then again this year the NIH collected blood samples from people to try to determine how many undiagnosed cases of covid there might have been. We didn't get our individual results. I just got notification that the study is now preprint (so not peer reviewed).
And they're saying based on the blood samples they ran they've calculated that last year in spring and early summer for every diagnosed covid case there were 4.8 undiagnosed cases. And that there were an estimated 16.8 million undiagnosed cases by mid-July. It also includes demographic data.
I'll be interested to read the entire study once it's peer reviewed and released.
So does this mean we may be closer to herd immunity than previously predicted?
it depends on whose predictions we are looking at . Those are lower rates than what I had seen speculated (more like 10% of cases were identified in the early summer of spring but had dropped with greater testing). So lower herd immunity than I had seen predicted
My neighbor is leaving to go to Brazil soon 😳. I gave her several of my Kn5s but I feel like bwhat else can I do? Outside of her spreading covid she is 70 and her partner isn't in great health. Her daughter was texting me upset about it but can't stop her either, it's so upsetting. She is normally fairly conscious so I hope she quarantines when she gets home.
Why is she going to Brazil? I wouldn't go for many reasons, including Covid, right now. Things are in total disarray and unrest, from what my friends in Brazil have noted.
DH managed to get the J&J at a no appt drop in site. There was no line. It was like a word of mouth thing, so weird. 24 hrs out and his only side effect is extreme annoyance that I keep asking how he is feeling. BRB gonna go ask again 🤣
I don't think I was the only one on this board that participated in sending blood samples to the NIH. But last year (I can't remember the exact month last year I sent my blood in) and then again this year the NIH collected blood samples from people to try to determine how many undiagnosed cases of covid there might have been. We didn't get our individual results. I just got notification that the study is now preprint (so not peer reviewed).
And they're saying based on the blood samples they ran they've calculated that last year in spring and early summer for every diagnosed covid case there were 4.8 undiagnosed cases. And that there were an estimated 16.8 million undiagnosed cases by mid-July. It also includes demographic data.
I'll be interested to read the entire study once it's peer reviewed and released.
So does this mean we may be closer to herd immunity than previously predicted?
I think it's actually pretty consistent with what you'd estimate for true infection rate last spring, based on comparing our case fatality rate with the 1% fatality rate that countries that found all their infections experienced.
Of course, people sick last spring are likely no longer immune anyway...
Post by 5kcandlesinthewind on Apr 4, 2021 16:41:52 GMT -5
The CDC added hypertension last week, which means my husband and I are both eligible as of tomorrow. My husband spent all day stalking the site and was able to sd a J&J appointment for tomorrow, and I got one for Tuesday! Bonus: mine is just under an hour and a half away, so I also get round trip alone time in the car. (I may try to find something closer tomorrow when Walgreens drops their new appointments, but solo car time is very, very tempting.)
J&J on Monday!!! I’m torn between being SO excited and also a bit disappointed/nervous it’s J&J given the others have 90+% efficacy and the recent news about the mishap with this vaccine, but SUPER EXCITED THAT I WILL BE FULLY VACCINATED IN 2+ WEEKS!
Anyone care to share experience with J&J? So much conversation around side effects is with the 2-dose vaccines. Also, any thoughts/research on future boosters? Are H and I stuck in J&J or will we move to Pfizer/Moderna in future years?
I got J&J and had zero side effects, I think 4 other of my co-workers got J&J and 2/4 had strong side effects. One with side effects rested and was fine ~ 24 hrs after the shot. My boss tried to power through and still looked terrible ~ 36 hrs later.