I am not into the royals, at all. Are they saying anything new here that we haven’t heard? I haven’t really watched, or read, anything else, but it seems they are saying the same things?
I’ve only watched 2 episodes and it’s pretty much the same stuff they have been sharing for years. I’m pretty sure they knew they would do something like this for $$$ when they left because There are video clips that they filmed staring immediately after leaving.
This reminds me. Spotify suggested to me a podcast called Stuff the British Stole because I'd listened to the You're Wrong About about Diana. It's an Australian broadcaster. Anyway, recommend.
DH told Ds1 (8) that the British museum is full of stuff the Brit’s have stolen without realizing that kid has NO FILTER and no volume control. So the entire time we were there he is shout asking “mom did they steal this? What about this? “
This reminds me. Spotify suggested to me a podcast called Stuff the British Stole because I'd listened to the You're Wrong About about Diana. It's an Australian broadcaster. Anyway, recommend.
DH told Ds1 (8) that the British museum is full of stuff the Brit’s have stolen without realizing that kid has NO FILTER and no volume control. So the entire time we were there he is shout asking “mom did they steal this? What about this? “
I'm for sure going to watch it, but I just need to know if Meghan is as insufferable as she is on the podcast so I can prepare myself. That has nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with her delivery, for the record.
I’ve never liked her (even pre BRF drama) and find her personality to be the same In this as other things.
This reminds me. Spotify suggested to me a podcast called Stuff the British Stole because I'd listened to the You're Wrong About about Diana. It's an Australian broadcaster. Anyway, recommend.
DH told Ds1 (8) that the British museum is full of stuff the Brit’s have stolen without realizing that kid has NO FILTER and no volume control. So the entire time we were there he is shout asking “mom did they steal this? What about this? “
He's not wrong and the museum knows it. Deepest of shrugs here. Ntozake Shange referred to museums as art detention centers. I love and visit many, but she's absolutely right.
DH told Ds1 (8) that the British museum is full of stuff the Brit’s have stolen without realizing that kid has NO FILTER and no volume control. So the entire time we were there he is shout asking “mom did they steal this? What about this? “
He's not wrong and the museum knows it. Deepest of shrugs here. Ntozake Shange referred to museums as art detention centers. I love and visit many, but she's absolutely right.
Some of y’all really want the Black lady to shut up about the racism she experienced, huh?
Meghan: I have been racially targeted and harassed. Harry: I am showing the hell up for my biracial wife and children. Everyone: wHy Do TheY kEeP rEpEaTiNg ThEm$eLvE$? tHeY aRe cA$HinG iN oN rAcI$M
My take on the point of this (as an American with no vested interest other than deep envy whenever I look at Meghan for how effortless she makes everything look) is to make money (which they might direct to some very worthy causes but also because I think it's pretty human instinct to want to do that and why not take advantage of this moment, when they are young and beautiful and people care. In another 10 years, no one will.)
I also think that both of them seem like they'd have a hard time just...not doing anything at all.
Personally, in their shoes, I'd pick some nice island or outpost and quietly live in my villa or whatever, start a charity nearby and just exist but I also get why they need to "work" and if they can't work for the royal family, which has been all Harry was raised for, what's he going to do if she continues to work like a normal human? This is something they can do together.
I still don’t understand why they talk about wanting privacy but put themselves in the public eye a lot.
I've only seen the trailer and read interviews but this is a sticking point of H&M. H&M were never quoted as saying they want privacy,they wanted their boundaries respected. British media published that they wanted privacy and the narrative stuck.
The papers were vile towards M from the jump. And the stories continue.
I am confused about their long term goals. It sounds like the relationship with his father and brother is very strained. I think they could have looked past the Oprah interview and the podcast is an individual project of Meghan. But the documentary and possibly the book sounds like there are some veiled shots about the senior members of the Royal family. I mean if they truly don’t want a relationship with them then that is their decision. No need to be in a toxic relationship even with family. But I don’t understand what they expect the relationship to be like moving forward. Will they want to attend the coronation and are they even invited.
The think that struck me the most is within the first few minutes Meghan wonders when she will be on the other side of it. Bringing it up on her podcast, doing interviews, documentary and now a book sounds like they are prolonging getting to the other side of it. It feels like they are trying to win more people over but the more they keep talking about their experience with the BRF, I don’t think it is winning more people
I also think the BRF has the idea that it is just better to put down your head and do the work. And that has worked favorably in the past to improve popularity of the members like Camila and Kate and it seems like H&M are trying to win people over with their story.
And I haven’t watched it but I read that Meghan gives her opinion about her sister-in-law as being formal in both public and private and that she is the one to give hugs and be all laid back. I don’t know but that is annoying to me. Just because you don’t go around hugging new people during a first meeting doesn’t make you like a cold/guarded person. It could also be a cultural difference. She didn’t have to put her on blast like that. It sounds like it goes against the message of her podcast about women building up other women
I think the increasing popularity of C is because they is what is being spun by the British media to the pleasure of the BRF.
And as far as long term goal/why are they still talking: to defend themselves. Even though no senior member of the family is publicly responding does not mean their private mouthpieces are not. A lot of the criticism of them appears to come from top courtiers. The call is coming from inside the house, you know? Some of what is published is heinous. But it diverts attention away from the other family members and alleged and actual scandals
Celebrities are generally working on new projects when they’re out interviewing. That’s not the case here, which is why I said “saying the same things”.
His book comes out in January so I’m assuming it’s at least in part promo for that.
Celebrities are generally working on new projects when they’re out interviewing. That’s not the case here, which is why I said “saying the same things”.
His book comes out in January so I’m assuming it’s at least in part promo for that.
I was talking more about when celebrities work the talk show circuit, I guess a book tour for a book. I didn’t realize this was a 6 part docuseries, until right this moment when I googled!
Ok douche, go ahead and call it mud. My husband DID have halitosis. We addressed it after I talked to you girls on here and guess what? Years later, no problem. Mofongo, you're a cunt. Eat shit. ~anonnamus
His book comes out in January so I’m assuming it’s at least in part promo for that.
I was talking more about when celebrities work the talk show circuit, I guess a book tour for a book. I didn’t realize this was a 6 part docuseries, until right this moment when I googled!
I think this is the royal equivalent of doing a book tour or making the rounds on talk shows/podcasts.
I was talking more about when celebrities work the talk show circuit, I guess a book tour for a book. I didn’t realize this was a 6 part docuseries, until right this moment when I googled!
I think this is the royal equivalent of doing a book tour or making the rounds on talk shows/podcasts.
But also big enough it could have its’ own round on those things, lol.
Ok douche, go ahead and call it mud. My husband DID have halitosis. We addressed it after I talked to you girls on here and guess what? Years later, no problem. Mofongo, you're a cunt. Eat shit. ~anonnamus
I guess what has me confused is what they hope to get out of this. Do they want the BRF to publicly acknowledge their racism and apologize? Do they want to repair their relationship with Harry’s father and brother? Do they want to sever all ties with the BRF forever and never speak to them or have anything to do with them ever again? Do they want to shed light on the history of racism in both of their countries of origin?
It’s not clear to me….and it’s probably not clear to them either. That’s okay. Family relationships are complicated, and any of those things would be understandable. And they are allowed to want any or all of those outcomes, or any other outcome they want. And they are allowed to talk about it as much or as little as they want to. But as part of their “audience” it definitely has me wondering what they’re feeling and what they want to achieve. And, apparently, I’m not the only person who is wondering these things.
I think it’s as simple as they want to tell their story the way they want it to be told. For the past six years there has been an incredibly popular fictionalized show about his immediate family and himself on the air. I don’t think it’s strange to think they might want to share their experiences and side of the story.
A massive number of completely non famous people create documentaries and social media content and write blogs and essays and memoirs so they can share their own experiences every day. Why wouldn’t someone who has basically the entire planet talking and speculating about them all the time do the same?
Post by wanderingback on Dec 9, 2022 0:37:47 GMT -5
I don’t understand why people are asking why they did this and what they want to get out of it? Why does any celebrity write books and make documentaries? This seems no different.
I find people's hatred of them really freaking strange (I don't follow the BRF and honestly don't care about them) and questioning "what they want to get out of this."
The way I see it, you have the son who will not be King, who tragically lost his mother at a young age and forced to grieve publicly as a child. He also allegedly took the fall for his brother while growing up (rumors that William was at the infamous party in Vegas and it was apparently not the only time attention put on Harry to cover for William). Then he finally finds someone he love, his family is racist, doesn't protect her from racist BS, and are genuinely awful. The same family that did not treat his mother well - who again was tragically killed. Yes, the BRF is fucking awful, but I can understand thinking your DAD would be happy for you and not (allegedly) ask what color your child would be. So he removed his family from the situation. Now they want to control the narrative a bit because his family certainly has not made anything better. I just don't understand why people don't get this and make these bizarre judgments about them. It's just weird. If my family were racists POSs to my husband, I would cut them off without thinking twice about it. And he's a Prince, so LOL at the idea that they are "profiting off their titles" - there is no way for him not to. It is literally who he is - anything he does could be considered that.
And she did not put Kate on blast. My goodness. As someone above stated, she noted that the formality was also part of their private selves, which surprised her (it would probably surprise me too - I would assume in private, they would greet the grandmother the same way I greet mine even though she was the Queen). She's a hugger and was meeting her boyfriend's sister in law - a hug is not so out of the ordinary - I hugged all of H's family we met the first time.
I guess it all depends on the person. I wouldn’t feel comfortable hugging a person that I just met and a lot of people have a thing about personal space.
I agree also with another poster that said that PH did not prepare her for what it means to be joining the Royal Family.
I guess what has me confused is what they hope to get out of this. Do they want the BRF to publicly acknowledge their racism and apologize? Do they want to repair their relationship with Harry’s father and brother? Do they want to sever all ties with the BRF forever and never speak to them or have anything to do with them ever again? Do they want to shed light on the history of racism in both of their countries of origin?
It’s not clear to me….and it’s probably not clear to them either. That’s okay. Family relationships are complicated, and any of those things would be understandable. And they are allowed to want any or all of those outcomes, or any other outcome they want. And they are allowed to talk about it as much or as little as they want to. But as part of their “audience” it definitely has me wondering what they’re feeling and what they want to achieve. And, apparently, I’m not the only person who is wondering these things.
I think it’s as simple as they want to tell their story the way they want it to be told. For the past six years there has been an incredibly popular fictionalized show about his immediate family and himself on the air. I don’t think it’s strange to think they might want to share their experiences and side of the story.
A massive number of completely non famous people create documentaries and social media content and write blogs and essays and memoirs so they can share their own experiences every day. Why wouldn’t someone who has basically the entire planet talking and speculating about them all the time do the same?
It will be interesting now to see if they will participate in events connected to the Royal Family when before they went because of the grandparents.
Post by basilosaurus on Dec 9, 2022 3:32:17 GMT -5
I wonder how much Harry could have realistically prepped her. Obviously it was nowhere near enough, but I think he was incapable of imagining just how bad it would get. His mom was beloved by the public even if her personal and private life was hell. He knew the physical risks, of course, but I can see being actually ignorant of just how racist everyone would be. Bubble within a bubble within a bubble.
This reminds me. Spotify suggested to me a podcast called Stuff the British Stole because I'd listened to the You're Wrong About about Diana. It's an Australian broadcaster. Anyway, recommend.
DH told Ds1 (8) that the British museum is full of stuff the Brit’s have stolen without realizing that kid has NO FILTER and no volume control. So the entire time we were there he is shout asking “mom did they steal this? What about this? “
I am team keep talking. They are talking about the absolute rot of the british tabloid media. They are talking about racism. And they are talking about how the RF is complacent and/or actively participating in it all.
For all of the "why do they keep talking about themselves" if you went to the Daily Mail right now you would see a tab on Megan Markle. She hasn't lived in England for 2 almost 3 years. Yet they make so much money off of nothing. Off of false stories. The obsession isn't going away. They have stayed silent and that has not helped. I thought a really interesting detail was the deal with the Rota and RF started when he and William were children. So they are the first generation to really deal with the insane attention from the media. Harry said his early memories all center around the abuse the photographers laid on them as they were just doing simple little normal things. They got no say over being able to navigate life normally without people following and abusing them.
I continue to be absolutely shocked at the hate these two bring out in people. I can't even engage with TikTok at the moment because of the amount of WW who are going off on this documentary when they clearly haven't watched it. Like the curtsey scene. That was Megan making fun of herself for not knowing what a curtsey was. And now that clip is proof she has no manners. She is disrespectful etc etc etc.
Also let's be honest. They need money to pay for things like their enormous security costs. We have no problem with any other celebrity doing a cash grab. Why is this different?
When I explain to people what one of my internet rabbit hole genres is, it is rotten institutions. I LOVE seeing the corruption pointed out. I love the irony just being laid out for the world to see. I think the The Firm is corrupt. Give me a six part docu series on it and I will eat it up. Bring it on. Keep talking lol.
For $90 million, it isn’t hard at all to answer the “why.”
The BRF, H&M, UK media, errbody… they all play people for money, IMO. Doesn’t take anything away from the fact that she experienced racism and has every right to discuss that.
But I mean, like most things in life, follow the money.
I have a lot of uncharitable feelings about the BRF and that extends to Harry and Meghan. It's shocking to exactly 0 POC that Meghan experienced racism and misogyny at their hands. Ummm, hello? These people have colonized, brutalized, stolen from, and generally devastated POC for centuries.
I watched the trailer and both their gripe seem to be - "I thought they would protect meghan but they didn't". So really, you split with them because they personally failed you. Not because they are morally bankrupt.
But also, they are continuing to profit off this morally bankrupt institution! They continue to use their titles. If the queen had agreed to their deal, they would have continued to represent the crown!
As a Pakistani-American I'm sitting at your table. There seemed to be no concern for the BRF's past racism when she married in and was working for them and they continue to use and profit off the titles and connections. They're all focused on the personal and would still be totally all in if they got the deal they wanted.
And have we (the general public) forgotten that he was the one that dressed as an actual Nazi? LOL forever at his outrage.
I can see both sides - that they've already talked about this, and while there might be new information, it's the same narrative that they were treated very badly. But some of the stuff is so bad it's probably worth repeating.
My guess is that it's very expensive to be them with all of the security and whatnot they will need forever, and they seem to like to be charitable, so they may as well cash in big on something like this while they can. I can't really fault that.
I'm for sure going to watch it, but I just need to know if Meghan is as insufferable as she is on the podcast so I can prepare myself. That has nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with her delivery, for the record.
I’ve never liked her (even pre BRF drama) and find her personality to be the same In this as other things.
I ended up watching two episodes last night, and I actually found her way more my style. There were a couple ugh moments, but this has confirmed my suspicion that her podcast where she's beating us over the head with her very obvious "revelations" about misogyny is just not a good format for her.
I’ve never liked her (even pre BRF drama) and find her personality to be the same In this as other things.
I ended up watching two episodes last night, and I actually found her way more my style. There were a couple ugh moments, but this has confirmed my suspicion that her podcast where she's beating us over the head with her very obvious "revelations" about misogyny is just not a good format for her.
I think the struggle with the podcast, for me, was that it was overly scripted. The allure of podcast is the off the cuff feeling. Or the ones that are really good make you feel as if you are just listening on a conversation. Her podcast did not feel like a conversation and is why I fell off from listening. Just not my style.
Perhaps with more time she cold get to that more natural style of podcasting. Or maybe not. It might not fit her personality, which is fine.