Harry & Meghan on Netflix

[just]

Anyone watch the first half on Netflix?

I don't follow the royals, but glad they have an opportunity to tell their side. 
Also she's so fucking gorgeous.

[scm1011]

I'm not sure I'm going to watch. I really felt for her and was total Team Meghan, but then I listened to her podcast and found her insufferable. I'm sure the Royal Family was definitely shitty to her, but meh, not sure I need to hear more from her.

[eb777888]

Dec 8, 2022 15:29:32 GMT -5 scm1011 said:

I'm not sure I'm going to watch. I really felt for her and was total Team Meghan, but then I listened to her podcast and found her insufferable. I'm sure the Royal Family was definitely shitty to her, but meh, not sure I need to hear more from her.

Same!!!

[dancingirl21]

I did. She’s stunning. I sort of get why they did this. The media has had such an opinion of them, that they have been portrayed in such a bad way. Seeing them together is cute.

I’m sure the BRF is fuming over this, but good. The blatant racism in that family is so bad. Honestly when all the racist attacks started on Meghan, the family needed to step in and say “no. This is a member of our family now that we support”, etc. instead of being quiet as always. They had SUCH an opportunity to bring themselves more into the modern world with not only Meghan, but Will/Kate and Harry/Meghan together. Harry and Meghan could have done so much good there. I get why they said peace out, 100%. It was the right move.

[dontlook]

Dec 8, 2022 15:33:37 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

I did. She’s stunning. I sort of get why they did this. The media has had such an opinion of them, that they have been portrayed in such a bad way. Seeing them together is cute.

I’m sure the BRF is fuming over this, but good. The blatant racism in that family is so bad. Honestly when all the racist attacks started on Meghan, the family needed to step in and say “no. This is a member of our family now that we support”, etc. instead of being quiet as always. They had SUCH an opportunity to bring themselves more into the modern world with not only Meghan, but Will/Kate and Harry/Meghan together. Harry and Meghan could have done so much good there. I get why they said peace out, 100%. It was the right move.

I never listened to her podcast.

I agree with all of this. They needed a chance to tell their story since they feel like they never got the chance. I think this series and his book will be healing for them after feeling silenced for so long.

[W.T.Faulkner]

The BRF is racist. They espouse colonialism and white supremacy as a core function. I’m happy Harry is out and that he seems to have grown up a bit from his Nazi-costume days.

That said, I wonder how many years Meghan and Harry can ride this wE wErE SiLeNcEd train. I have no doubt they were, but they’ve now been out longer than they were really in. A podcast, a book deal, a Netflix doc, an Oprah interview later — I think you’ve effectively struck back, right?

THAT said. I’m probably going to watch it. lol

[starburst604]

Dec 8, 2022 16:25:44 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

The BRF is racist. They espouse colonialism and white supremacy as a core function. I’m happy Harry is out and that he seems to have grown up a bit from his Nazi-costume days.

That said, I wonder how many years Meghan and Harry can ride this wE wErE SiLeNcEd train. I have no doubt they were, but they’ve now been out longer than they were really in. A podcast, a book deal, a Netflix doc, an Oprah interview later — I think you’ve effectively struck back, right?

THAT said. I’m probably going to watch it. lol

This is where I'm at with them. I think even people who support them are feeling like it's enough already and it gives ammo to those who think they're out for attention or cashing in. But I will watch too! 

[dontlook]

Dec 8, 2022 16:25:44 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

The BRF is racist. They espouse colonialism and white supremacy as a core function. I’m happy Harry is out and that he seems to have grown up a bit from his Nazi-costume days.

That said, I wonder how many years Meghan and Harry can ride this wE wErE SiLeNcEd train. I have no doubt they were, but they’ve now been out longer than they were really in. A podcast, a book deal, a Netflix doc, an Oprah interview later — I think you’ve effectively struck back, right?

THAT said. I’m probably going to watch it. lol

I don’t know. Of course people are going to mock but they did 1 interview in 2021, the podcast wasn’t about them (please correct me if I’m wrong I haven’t and won’t listen). Netflix is about them and the book is about him. That hardly feels like excessive to me especially since a he’s lived 30+ years never feeling like he could talk.

[cville]

I mean, yeah they're milking it in some ways. But he was born into a family that's also a business that's also a 1000 year old institution of oppression. And she's a complete person who gave up her career to become a 2 dimensional symbol used by people on all sides to advance ends having nothing to do with who she really is.

I am going to let them talk about it for awhile.

[VillainV]

Dec 8, 2022 16:04:36 GMT -5 dontlook said:

Dec 8, 2022 15:33:37 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

I did. She’s stunning. I sort of get why they did this. The media has had such an opinion of them, that they have been portrayed in such a bad way. Seeing them together is cute.

I’m sure the BRF is fuming over this, but good. The blatant racism in that family is so bad. Honestly when all the racist attacks started on Meghan, the family needed to step in and say “no. This is a member of our family now that we support”, etc. instead of being quiet as always. They had SUCH an opportunity to bring themselves more into the modern world with not only Meghan, but Will/Kate and Harry/Meghan together. Harry and Meghan could have done so much good there. I get why they said peace out, 100%. It was the right move.

I never listened to her podcast.

I agree with all of this. They needed a chance to tell their story since they feel like they never got the chance. I think this series and his book will be healing for them after feeling silenced for so long.

The part I don’t understand is that they HAVE had an opportunity to share their side of the story…through the Oprah interview, Harry’s book, their podcast. Is there something I’m missing here?

I generally like them and I agree that the BRF treated them (and especially her) like shit. And they are free to talk about this treatment as much or as little as they like to. But I don’t know that I agree that they haven’t been able to share their side yet.

[dontlook]

Dec 8, 2022 16:41:51 GMT -5 VillainV said:

Dec 8, 2022 16:04:36 GMT -5 dontlook said:

I never listened to her podcast.

I agree with all of this. They needed a chance to tell their story since they feel like they never got the chance. I think this series and his book will be healing for them after feeling silenced for so long.

The part I don’t understand is that they HAVE had an opportunity to share their side of the story…through the Oprah interview, Harry’s book, their podcast. Is there something I’m missing here?

I generally like them and I agree that the BRF treated them (and especially her) like shit. And they are free to talk about this treatment as much or as little as they like to. But I don’t know that I agree that they haven’t been able to share their side yet.

I asked myself the same question and they start the series off with answering. They believe people have and continue to tell lies about them and their story so they want a chance to set the record straight. I get that. No one has to watch the series or read his book or read the many many think pieces that are coming about both and will be attributed to them. I think they seem to be “milking” this because everyone else keeps talking about them and somehow when they respond the public is “over hearing about them”. I do hope they find peace and can move on but I’m fine with them talking until they feel heard. I’ll just stop listening when I’m over it lol.

[sequins]

I have a lot of uncharitable feelings about the BRF and that extends to Harry and Meghan. It's shocking to exactly 0 POC that Meghan experienced racism and misogyny at their hands. Ummm, hello? These people have colonized, brutalized, stolen from, and generally devastated POC for centuries.

I watched the trailer and both their gripe seem to be - "I thought they would protect meghan but they didn't". So really, you split with them because they personally failed you. Not because they are morally bankrupt.

But also, they are continuing to profit off this morally bankrupt institution! They continue to use their titles. If the queen had agreed to their deal, they would have continued to represent the crown!

[fivechickens]

Sounds like they went through hell (especially her) when they got engaged/married/had kids while living with the BRF. I think they’ve earned the right to talk as much as they want and for as long as they wish.

I mean the queen protected her pedophile son over the racists attacks Meghan still deals with.

[okla]

Some of y’all really want the Black lady to shut up about the racism she experienced, huh?

[devonpow]

I watched the first two episodes today - perfect viewing while on the treadmill! I enjoyed it, I have no issues with her/them. I think it’s fascinating to watch them break from the royal family in such a public way. I think the entire concept of the monarchy is ludicrous and the British press/tabloids are horrifying, so that’s basically the “side” I’m on. There’s one scene where William, Harry, Eugenia, and Beatrice are forced to do a photo shoot/interview thing on their own (no adults) while on a vacation while very young. You can see how uncomfortable they all are and the younger girl (I don’t know who is who) is near tears - she looks maybe 4 years old? But they have to sit there with these grimace like smiles plastered on with a big group of photographers in their face. It’s really… gross. And all the scenes of them trying to be on a vacation and just no privacy. It’s such a messed up way of being a kid/being in a family. And then they have no choice as an adult - it’s either continue to live that way and find someone to marry who will put up with it and subject the kids to it, or break away and be painted as an awful person. It’s lose lose.

[DotAndBuzz]

The BRF has written publicity agreements with the British press corps, and has an entire publicity machine at work for them, 24/7. They could have used that to tell people to STFU and back off, and that racism wasn't acceptable. They didn't, and they continued to play the victim in all this.

I don't begrudge Harry and Megan one cent of what they're making from their publicity now. Write all the books, do all the podcasts, and all the Netflix series they want, because the royally sanctioned publicity AGAINST them won't be ending any time soon.

[dulcemariamar]

I am confused about their long term goals. It sounds like the relationship with his father and brother is very strained. I think they could have looked past the Oprah interview and the podcast is an individual project of Meghan. But the documentary and possibly the book sounds like there are some veiled shots about the senior members of the Royal family. I mean if they truly don’t want a relationship with them then that is their decision. No need to be in a toxic relationship even with family. But I don’t understand what they expect the relationship to be like moving forward. Will they want to attend the coronation and are they even invited.

The think that struck me the most is within the first few minutes Meghan wonders when she will be on the other side of it. Bringing it up on her podcast, doing interviews, documentary and now a book sounds like they are prolonging getting to the other side of it. It feels like they are trying to win more people over but the more they keep talking about their experience with the BRF, I don’t think it is winning more people

I also think the BRF has the idea that it is just better to put down your head and do the work. And that has worked favorably in the past to improve popularity of the members like Camila and Kate and it seems like H&M are trying to win people over with their story.

And I haven’t watched it but I read that Meghan gives her opinion about her sister-in-law as being formal in both public and private and that she is the one to give hugs and be all laid back. I don’t know but that is annoying to me. Just because you don’t go around hugging new people during a first meeting doesn’t make you like a cold/guarded person. It could also be a cultural difference. She didn’t have to put her on blast like that. It sounds like it goes against the message of her podcast about women building up other women

[mofongo]

I am not into the royals, at all. Are they saying anything new here that we haven’t heard? I haven’t really watched, or read, anything else, but it seems they are saying the same things?

[dontlook]

I want to keep responding to everyone lol:
- The hug thing sounded like she was just shocked that the family is formal at all times. I didn’t hear it as a shot. She’s an actress and used to a public face vs private. They have one face all the time. Makes sense. He has to bow to his freaking grandma. That’s crazy formal but that’s his reality.
- I’ve heard more interviews from the cast of Love Is Blind than I have from M&H. Im loling forever that they are talking too much it saying the same things. Isn’t that what celebrities do? That’s what they are.
- I’m just really not sure what people expect them to do. Go away? Do works of service but never do interviews? I’m just not sure what kind of profile is acceptable for them.

I’m going to try to stay out of this post lol.

[emilyinchile]

I'm for sure going to watch it, but I just need to know if Meghan is as insufferable as she is on the podcast so I can prepare myself. That has nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with her delivery, for the record.

[VillainV]

Dec 8, 2022 18:13:03 GMT -5 dontlook said:

I want to keep responding to everyone lol:
- The hug thing sounded like she was just shocked that the family is formal at all times. I didn’t hear it as a shot. She’s an actress and used to a public face vs private. They have one face all the time. Makes sense. He has to bow to his freaking grandma. That’s crazy formal but that’s his reality.
- I’ve heard more interviews from the cast of Love Is Blind than I have from M&H. Im loling forever that they are talking too much it saying the same things. Isn’t that what celebrities do? That’s what they are.
- I’m just really not sure what people expect them to do. Go away? Do works of service but never do interviews? I’m just not sure what kind of profile is acceptable for them.

I’m going to try to stay out of this post lol.

I guess what has me confused is what they hope to get out of this. Do they want the BRF to publicly acknowledge their racism and apologize? Do they want to repair their relationship with Harry’s father and brother? Do they want to sever all ties with the BRF forever and never speak to them or have anything to do with them ever again? Do they want to shed light on the history of racism in both of their countries of origin?

It’s not clear to me….and it’s probably not clear to them either. That’s okay. Family relationships are complicated, and any of those things would be understandable. And they are allowed to want any or all of those outcomes, or any other outcome they want. And they are allowed to talk about it as much or as little as they want to. But as part of their “audience” it definitely has me wondering what they’re feeling and what they want to achieve. And, apparently, I’m not the only person who is wondering these things.

[mofongo]

Dec 8, 2022 18:13:03 GMT -5 dontlook said:

I want to keep responding to everyone lol:
- The hug thing sounded like she was just shocked that the family is formal at all times. I didn’t hear it as a shot. She’s an actress and used to a public face vs private. They have one face all the time. Makes sense. He has to bow to his freaking grandma. That’s crazy formal but that’s his reality.
- I’ve heard more interviews from the cast of Love Is Blind than I have from M&H. Im loling forever that they are talking too much it saying the same things. Isn’t that what celebrities do? That’s what they are.
- I’m just really not sure what people expect them to do. Go away? Do works of service but never do interviews? I’m just not sure what kind of profile is acceptable for them.

I’m going to try to stay out of this post lol.

Celebrities are generally working on new projects when they’re out interviewing. That’s not the case here, which is why I said “saying the same things”.

[bcv513]

I feel like Harry didn’t prepare Meghan AT ALL for what life was going to be like. And I think she is way out of his league.

[suzyp]

I find people's hatred of them really freaking strange (I don't follow the BRF and honestly don't care about them) and questioning "what they want to get out of this."

The way I see it, you have the son who will not be King, who tragically lost his mother at a young age and forced to grieve publicly as a child. He also allegedly took the fall for his brother while growing up (rumors that William was at the infamous party in Vegas and it was apparently not the only time attention put on Harry to cover for William). Then he finally finds someone he love, his family is racist, doesn't protect her from racist BS, and are genuinely awful. The same family that did not treat his mother well - who again was tragically killed. Yes, the BRF is fucking awful, but I can understand thinking your DAD would be happy for you and not (allegedly) ask what color your child would be. So he removed his family from the situation. Now they want to control the narrative a bit because his family certainly has not made anything better. I just don't understand why people don't get this and make these bizarre judgments about them. It's just weird. If my family were racists POSs to my husband, I would cut them off without thinking twice about it. And he's a Prince, so LOL at the idea that they are "profiting off their titles" - there is no way for him not to. It is literally who he is - anything he does could be considered that.

And she did not put Kate on blast. My goodness. As someone above stated, she noted that the formality was also part of their private selves, which surprised her (it would probably surprise me too - I would assume in private, they would greet the grandmother the same way I greet mine even though she was the Queen). She's a hugger and was meeting her boyfriend's sister in law - a hug is not so out of the ordinary - I hugged all of H's family we met the first time.

[W.T.Faulkner]

I want a Ken Burns documentary, narrated by Harry and Meghan, about the BRF’s 4848392992959382 fucked up atrocities all over the world for centuries.

And I’ll watch that one along with this docuseries.

[sequins]

Dec 8, 2022 18:47:00 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

I want a Ken Burns documentary, narrated by Harry and Meghan, about the BRF’s 4848392992959382 fucked up atrocities all over the world for centuries.

And I’ll watch that one along with this docuseries.

I support this way of using the titles!! "The atrocities of the BRF" - Produced and Narrated by HRH the Duke of Sussex.

[W.T.Faulkner]

Dec 8, 2022 18:56:41 GMT -5 sequins said:

Dec 8, 2022 18:47:00 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

I want a Ken Burns documentary, narrated by Harry and Meghan, about the BRF’s 4848392992959382 fucked up atrocities all over the world for centuries.

And I’ll watch that one along with this docuseries.

I support this way of using the titles!! "The atrocities of the BRF" - Produced and Narrated by HRH the Duke of Sussex.

“Because you watched ‘The Crown…’”

[cville]

Dec 8, 2022 19:08:46 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

Dec 8, 2022 18:56:41 GMT -5 sequins said:

I support this way of using the titles!! "The atrocities of the BRF" - Produced and Narrated by HRH the Duke of Sussex.

“Because you watched ‘The Crown…’”

This reminds me. Spotify suggested to me a podcast called Stuff the British Stole because I'd listened to the You're Wrong About about Diana. It's an Australian broadcaster. Anyway, recommend.

[W.T.Faulkner]

Dec 8, 2022 19:17:09 GMT -5 cville said:

Dec 8, 2022 19:08:46 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

“Because you watched ‘The Crown…’”

This reminds me. Spotify suggested to me a podcast called Stuff the British Stole because I'd listened to the You're Wrong About about Diana. It's an Australian broadcaster. Anyway, recommend.

THANK YOU. I was looking for a new one and this sounds perfect. I imagine it’s a long podcast with lots of episodes.

[loira]

As much as I hated Meghan's podcast I hated Sophie Grégoire Trudeau as a guest on Meghan's podcast even more. She was so, so awful.