Post by cattledogkisses on Apr 2, 2014 17:37:38 GMT -5
This is really upsetting me. I'm running through my mental rolodex and I don't think we have any friends there right now, thank god, but OMG. Those poor people. I wish I could hug my H.
Yeah, Hood has huge metal barriers at the gates that can be raised when they need to lockdown the base. They'll get whoever it is, it's just a matter of how many people are injured/killed in the process.
Again??? Wtf is going on with the security?? Ugh. Ugh.
1 dead, per news. Multiple injuries
ABC just said it really isn't that hard to get on a base without identification. Lots of times you don't have to show a badge/ID. I can't even believe that kind of complacency after what happened at Ft. Hood before.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
The alert, whose legitimacy was confirmed by military and law enforcement officials, stated that a man identified as Booker had told friends of his "intention to commit jihad." Booker, who is also known as Muhammad Abdullah Hassan, was recruited by the U.S. Army in Kansas City, Mo., in February 2014 and was scheduled to report for basic training on April 7. But he was discharged last week, apparently after law enforcement authorities learned of his alleged plan.
Both the FBI and the 902d Military Intelligence Group at Fort Leavenworth are involved in the hunt.
The alert, a copy of which was obtained by FoxNews.com, was sent out by the FBI's Kansas City Division on Friday and distributed through the U.S. Marine Corps. The portion obtained by FoxNews.com did not include Hassan's photo or age. It was also sent to the Kansas City Police Department, which could indicate authorities believe he may have remained in the area where he was recruited.
The alert is titled, “Planned Fort Hood-inspired Jihad against US Soldiers by Army Recruit” and was issued “to inform and protect officers who may encounter this individual or others exhibiting the same aspirations.” The source of the information contained in the alert was listed as “An FBI agent.”
According to the alert:
“On 20 March 2014, the Kansas City Division FBI became aware of an individual named BOOKER aka Muhammad Abdullah Hassan who had publicly stated his intention to commit jihad, bidding farewell to his friends and making comments indicating his jihad was imminent. BOOKER had been recruited by the US Army in Kansas City, Mo., in February 2014 and was scheduled to report for Basic Training on 7 April 2014. Kansas City Division Agents interviewed BOOKER on 20 March 2014.”
Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Ty Balzer confirmed the alert's legitimacy, but referred questions to the FBI. A spokeswoman with the Kansas City Division of the FBI -- the same division responsible for sending out the alert and who, according to the alert, spoke with Booker on March 20 -- said she did “not have any information to provide in regards to your inquiry.”
Law enforcement sources familiar with the alert said it appeared to suggest that there may be others in addition to Booker who also might have expressed similar intentions to commit jihad against U.S. military installations.
A military source said it appeared the bulletin was provided by the FBI, then distributed by the Marine Corps under the normal protocol of sharing any information relating to a potential threat to U.S. military installations or personnel.
A spokesman for the Kansas City recruiting station where Booker enlisted referred FoxNews.com’s questions to 902d Military Intelligence Group, which did not immediately return requests for comment.
The Fort Hood shooting, referenced in the alert, took place on Nov. 5, 2009. U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, a psychiatrist who had become a radical Muslim while serving in the military, killed 13 people and injured dozens more inside the Texas Army base. Hasan, who represented himself at a military trial after clashing with his appointed attorneys, was sentenced to death in August.
Again??? Wtf is going on with the security?? Ugh. Ugh.
1 dead, per news. Multiple injuries
ABC just said it really isn't that hard to get on a base without identification. Lots of times you don't have to show a badge/ID. I can't even believe that kind of complacency after what happened at Ft. Hood before.
I work in the security world.
You'd probably be shocked and how quickly people become complacent.
IDK much about Ft. Hood, is there actual housing on base? If so, it is probably way easier to enter than if there wasn't.
ABC just said it really isn't that hard to get on a base without identification. Lots of times you don't have to show a badge/ID. I can't even believe that kind of complacency after what happened at Ft. Hood before.
I work in the security world.
You'd probably be shocked and how quickly people become complacent.
IDK much about Ft. Hood, is there actual housing on base? If so, it is probably way easier to enter than if there wasn't.
Yes there is housing. It's also a huge base, with multiple gates.
I was going to post a little while ago that something needed to happen to stop CNN from it's 24/7 missing plane coverage. I was hoping for something good, like those three girls in Cleveland who escaped. So far CNN isn't reporting any deaths.
But we always learn from our mistakes! And...and....and GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS!
Totally not a gun lobby apologist (FAR from it in fact, I would be happy to have the 2nd Amendment scrapped), but there is no way Fox would characterize this as a good guy with a gun. He was a bad guy, (scary Muslim), likely with an illegal gun. And he sounds like a prick, to be fair. I'm liberal and all but can't get down jihad threats.
But we always learn from our mistakes! And...and....and GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS!
Totally not a gun lobby apologist (FAR from it in fact, I would be happy to have the 2nd Amendment scrapped), but there is no way Fox would characterize this as a good guy with a gun. He was a bad guy, (scary Muslim), likely with an illegal gun. And he sounds like a prick, to be fair. I'm liberal and all but can't get down jihad threats.
I think she meant that all the other good guys with guns on the base would stop the shooting.
But we always learn from our mistakes! And...and....and GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS!
Totally not a gun lobby apologist (FAR from it in fact, I would be happy to have the 2nd Amendment scrapped), but there is no way Fox would characterize this as a good guy with a gun. He was a bad guy, (scary Muslim), likely with an illegal gun. And he sounds like a prick, to be fair. I'm liberal and all but can't get down jihad threats.
I think she meant the good guys with guns would be the other people around the shooter who would then stop this bad guy. Not that the shooter was a "good guy" with a gun. But I may have read that wrong.
We are scheduled to move there in three weeks. I am sick over this.
I don't know if this is any consolation, but I'm sure everyone will be hyper-vigilant for a while after this. H was down there a few months after the first shooting and security was tight.
I don't spend enough time on MF to know where everyone is, but if any of the posters are there, I hope they and their families are ok.