Post by secretlyevil on Jul 12, 2012 16:15:59 GMT -5
ETA: Reading comprehension fail - I guess Pixar doesn't get to count in the Disney princesses. Although Disney owns Pixar so it seems very splitting hairs to me.
ETA 2: And Disney sure is pushing merch soooooo...
I don't see how Belle isn't higher on that list. HELLO SHE saved HIM. Same with Rapunzel. I do see Tiana coming in ahead of both of them.
i guess the only placement problem I have is that Jasmine is more feminist than Belle. And of course that Merida is missing altogether.
I LOVE Beauty and the Beast and I love Belle (because OMG, I want that library, too), and it's awesome that she wants out of her podunk village that doesn't understand her, just because she's a woman who is into education and not falling head-over-heels for the good looking big-fish-in-a-small-pond who happens to also be a horrible person.
BUT, she does end up leaving her small village by... marrying a rich guy. A guy who was not all that nice, but she KNEW she could CHANGE him and he was really sweet under all that rage and hatred. *barf*
(I mean, except, you know, he was really good under all that! But that's so not real life and so not a good "message." I, however, didn't take the message like that. I just liked Belle. I think her spunk would have served her well in other situations, too. But in retrospect, yeah, kind of bad.)
So, Ariel, the girl who literally lost her voice and changed her body for a man, is more feminist than 3 others?
I sort of had the same reaction. Although Aurora, Snow White and Cinderella all had to be completely saved by men. They don't really have any redeeming qualities, feminist wise. Ariel at least was a rebel, you know against her father like all teenagers are. As I type this, I've decided that all four of them should be tied for last place.
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She likes humans, tries to learn all about them, then saves one and falls in love with him (at first sight, I know, I know, but stick with me.) The authority figure (aka Daddy, or "the man") tells her, nu-uh, he knows what's best, then reprimands her destroys all of her possessions.
She goes out, finds a solution on her own, pays for it with her own $$ (well, her voice. So, you know, a pawn shop of sorts), gets to the surface, enlists the help of her friends, gets that man to fall in love with her (until the pawn shop owner gets all stingy). Spell gets broken, guy realizes he loves her. So Daddy comes to help her fight the pawnshop owner, her lover kills the pawn shop owner, Dad realizes he was being an ass, and relents.
At least Ariel did something. Lying around waiting for someone else to come help you out ain't fucking working.
Of course Snow White ran off but then she takes up with seven stupid dwarfs and does what? CLEANS AND COOKS!
And Belle wasn't a feminist. She just liked to read and she didn't want to marry a smarmy douche, just a douche with anger management problems who treated her like shit.
So, Ariel, the girl who literally lost her voice and changed her body for a man, is more feminist than 3 others?
I have always hated the Ariel because she had to fundamentally change who she was and leave her family for "true love". Ick.
Meh, but people do that all the time. You could say that Ariel went against the life in which she was raised and persued her own goals.
Yes, they involved living happily every after with some man but still. She broke with the expectations of the men in her life and chose her own path, albeit with another man.
for people who haven't clicked through - Merida is assumed to belong at the top of the list. It's a list ranking just the main characters specifically marketed as "princesses" by disney pre-Brave.