Yes, Belle later became a princess. However, the point remains that Disney labels the heroines of their rather cliche'd movies princesses, royal status notwithstanding.
I have always hated the Ariel because she had to fundamentally change who she was and leave her family for "true love". Ick.
Reaching, but how is this any different than a transgendered individual finding their "true" identity?
Except, would she have changed into a human if he had become a merman instead? It's not about her finding her true self, but about making a version of herself he would be with.
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So, Ariel, the girl who literally lost her voice and changed her body for a man, is more feminist than 3 others?
Okay?! And not just lost, but gave up her voice. And rejected her community to be with him, don't forget! I mean, you gotta work to make a plot that un-feminist.
With a position like this, why would you have faith in rehabilitation institutions for prisoners??
Oh, I missed the part where Belle was a trained therapist.
Smartass.
With all those books she reads after lamenting her provincial life, I'm sure she's read up on that topic a great deal. I don't assume otherwise just because she's a woman.
Brazil. Or so I remember during the whole to-do about him being white, and folks said "No, he is still a person of color. He is from Brazil."
the googles tell me the actor who voiced him is brazilian. The character is from a made-up country called Maldonia. (did you know there is a dedicated disney wiki? learn new things every day) Maldonia is made up right? It's not just a place I've never heard of? I'm going to be deeply embarassed if it's real.
And how do you know Ariel simply wasn't a human trapped in a mermaid's body? Perhaps she simply gave up her voice to Ursula for species reassignment surgery.
Brazil. Or so I remember during the whole to-do about him being white, and folks said "No, he is still a person of color. He is from Brazil."
lol, that doesn't make any sense. people from brazil come in all colors, including white (see giselle bundchen), just like people from america do.
Indeed.
I was annoyed that they didn't just make his character black. He could have been royalty via a Mardi Gras krewe (namely, Zulu), but nobody consulted me, alas.
I was annoyed that they didn't just make his character black. He could have been royalty via a Mardi Gras krewe (namely, Zulu), but nobody consulted me, alas.
Actually, I haven't seen the movie for just this reason. It still makes me cranky.
In other news, I hatehatehate that my D's favorite movie is Cinderella, "leave the sewing to the women," ugh. I keep trying to sneak in Mulan and Tangled hoping they will grow on her.
I totally get how having a black prince would have given boys a male, minority figure to identify with, but Disney went with the interracial relationship which... is a far cry from Song of the South, at least, you know?
I totally get how having a black prince would have given boys a male, minority figure to identify with, but Disney went with the interracial relationship which... is a far cry from Song of the South, at least, you know?
Except that they didn't. They went with an ambiguously dark but not too dark male character from a country where they do actually have black people.
Wait -that Belle didn't KNOW she could change him. She didn't know what the curse was all about.
I never looked at the beast as an abusive asshole... he was grumpy and angry and selfish, yes, but remind me how he abused her?
I liked the story because yes the books by God the books and wanting to be more than what the other women limited themselves to, but she was also unafraid of standing up to the beast, putting him in his place, and ultimately fell in love with his gentle nature that showed when he wasn't all preoccupied with being a big ole scary monster. Also in the end, her bravery and love for what was beneath the exterior is what saved his life and changed him. I am not saying she ranks above TIANA or the others before her except jasmine... how was Jasmine a feminist above and beyond belle?
In other news, I hatehatehate that my D's favorite movie is Cinderella, "leave the sewing to the women," ugh. I keep trying to sneak in Mulan and Tangled hoping they will grow on her.
i've always loved cinderella and i don't sew or cook. my husband does the cooking. i leave the sewing to a seamstress/taylor.
your daughter will be fine. let her enjoy her movie
Post by bluestreet on Jul 12, 2012 19:26:01 GMT -5
We let my 9-year-old watch Cinderella when she was 4 against my better judgment, and afterwards DH says, "Yeah, I never want her to see that again." I fell a little bit harder for him that day.
Shrek really kicks ass in my book. I love how it turned Beauty and the Beast on its head.
Ditto on loving Beauty and the Beast, not loving that Belle got with a violent dude with a temper because, well, "he's always nice to ME."
The whole loss of voice thing in Little Mermaid doesn't sit well with me, either.
I've never actually seen Mulan, but I get the premise, and I like it. I'm surprised the Princess and the Frog princess isn't on the list (I've never seen that one, either, but doesn't she want to work hard and open her own restaurant?).
Habsies, lol at the Snow White comment. Dollars to donuts that my short, black-haired Greek aunt would do the exact same thing if she found herself bunking with a bunch of grimy dudes.
Wait -that Belle didn't KNOW she could change him. She didn't know what the curse was all about.
I never looked at the beast as an abusive asshole... he was grumpy and angry and selfish, yes, but remind me how he abused her?
You mean other than kidnapping her (and her father) and holding her (them) against their will? And yelling all loud and growly and getting up in her face for going into his precious rose room? And basically yelling and being a douchebag throughout the whole movie and treating her like shit? It's not like she knew about the curse and chose to weather through in case she could break it. It's a classic "if you love him hard enough he will change" message.
I mean, as plots go it's pretty much a feminist-fail. Belle as a character is pretty cool, though.