Mayim Bialik : Don't fall for that similac commercial

[anna7602]

Feb 4, 2015 12:34:44 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:27:07 GMT -5 @tambcat said:

It pisses me off that formula companies count on women having trouble breastfeeding, plus having lack of support, to make money. I don't care how much they advertise on TV or in print or on the web. 

Formula companies don't really piss me off (although I find the whole Keurig-type formula machines kind of laughable, even if they don't seem to have caught on in the US). What pisses me off is that insurance doesn't cover lactation consultants, that many pediatricians and ob/gyns don't know shit about breastfeeding or how to troubleshoot pretty common issues and that the American workplace expects new parents to just power through and be back at their desks so soon after a baby is born. All of my breastfeeding issues were solved because I had the disposable income to pursue solutions and the flexibility with my job to do so. It is such a freaking privilege to be able to say I'm still breastfeeding and I hate that. 

[ilikedonuts]

Feb 4, 2015 12:45:30 GMT -5 @this said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:42:41 GMT -5 anna7602 said:

Formula companies don't really piss me off (although I find the whole Keurig-type formula machines kind of laughable, even if they don't seem to have caught on in the US). What pisses me off is that insurance doesn't cover lactation consultants, that many pediatricians and ob/gyns don't know shit about breastfeeding or how to troubleshoot pretty common issues and that the American workplace expects new parents to just power through and be back at their desks so soon after a baby is born. All of my breastfeeding issues were solved because I had the disposable income to pursue solutions and the flexibility with my job to do so. It is such a freaking privilege to be able to say I'm still breastfeeding and I hate that.

I agree with all of this. And I'm pretty outspoken about FFing.

I don't agree with mocking the formula keurig. I totally want one if/when we have a second. LOL

A couple of women from my BMB FB group got it and said it totally sucks and never makes the correct proportions. I was like nooooooo!

[catbus]

Feb 4, 2015 12:43:59 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

Don't know about the future

That's anybody's guess

Ain't no good reason

For gettin' all depressed

But if you need an answer

I'll give you a piece of my mind

In my opinionation

The sun is gonna surely shine



Stop all your fussin'

Slap on a smile

Go out and walk in the sun for awhile



Don't fight the feelin'

You know you wanna have a good time

And in my opinionation

The sun is gonna surely shine

Also, I miss theme songs. 

[Deleted]

Feb 4, 2015 12:47:12 GMT -5 ilikedonuts said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:45:30 GMT -5 @this said:

I agree with all of this. And I'm pretty outspoken about FFing.

I don't agree with mocking the formula keurig. I totally want one if/when we have a second. LOL

A couple of women from my BMB FB group got it and said it totally sucks and never makes the correct proportions. I was like nooooooo!

I have one and it is awesome. It took some trial and error to get it right in the beginning, but it's great now.

[pinotgrig]

Feb 4, 2015 12:10:18 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

I think "baby milk" in general is weird. Shouldn't it be baby's or babies' or something? Baby milk makes it sound like it comes from a baby lol.

#tangents

Thank you for saying this. I've been thinking the whole thread.
Baby milk - squeezed fresh daily. Lolol

[catbus]

Feb 4, 2015 12:52:10 GMT -5 pinotgrig said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:10:18 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

I think "baby milk" in general is weird. Shouldn't it be baby's or babies' or something? Baby milk makes it sound like it comes from a baby lol.

#tangents

Thank you for saying this. I've been thinking the whole thread.
Baby milk - squeezed fresh daily. Lolol

I missed @mrswindycity's comment initially. I thought I was being pedantic in being bugged by that term; glad to see I'm not alone! 

[h]

I feel like between Mayim Bialik, Kirk Cameron, and Lisa Whelchel, all the celebrities I loved at a kid turned out to be total but jobs. Thank God for Neil Patrick Harris.

[jeaniebueller]

Feb 4, 2015 12:42:41 GMT -5 anna7602 said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:34:44 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

It pisses me off that formula companies count on women having trouble breastfeeding, plus having lack of support, to make money. I don't care how much they advertise on TV or in print or on the web. 

Formula companies don't really piss me off (although I find the whole Keurig-type formula machines kind of laughable, even if they don't seem to have caught on in the US). What pisses me off is that insurance doesn't cover lactation consultants, that many pediatricians and ob/gyns don't know shit about breastfeeding or how to troubleshoot pretty common issues and that the American workplace expects new parents to just power through and be back at their desks so soon after a baby is born. All of my breastfeeding issues were solved because I had the disposable income to pursue solutions and the flexibility with my job to do so. It is such a freaking privilege to be able to say I'm still breastfeeding and I hate that. 

So, my sister is a nurse and when she was doing clinicals during nursing school, during her OB rotation, the head nurse had my sister "show" the mother who had just given birth how to breastfeed. My sister has no kids and knew nothing about breastfeeding. It was not a good experience and I felt bad for the patient.

[Velar Fricative]

Feb 4, 2015 12:59:25 GMT -5 h said:

I feel like between Mayim Bialik, Kirk Cameron, and Lisa Whelchel, all the celebrities I loved at a kid turned out to be total but jobs. Thank God for Neil Patrick Harris.

My kids are never becoming child actors.

[bugandbibs]

I know we've gotten off topic already, but I was too busy working to respond.

I have serious problems with Formula companies and their marketing campaigns. The problems they have caused in third world countries to make a profit are gross and evil. It's hard to see it in our bubble of having access to clean water, store aisles full of product, or WIC to help pay for formula as needed. I think that's what makes commercials like this so irksome and leaves a bad taste for some. I have issues with Medela too for some of their choices as a company and I love their products.

I want to be absolutely clear that I do not think that USING formula is evil or that it's a bad choice for parents. It is a valuable product.

[h]

Feb 4, 2015 12:59:25 GMT -5 h said:

I feel like between Mayim Bialik, Kirk Cameron, and Lisa Whelchel, all the celebrities I loved at a kid turned out to be total but jobs. Thank God for Neil Patrick Harris.

Nut jobs. I meant nut jobs. But, sure, we can go with but jobs...

[smock]

I buy Advil for myself instead of generic because I just love that delicious sugar coating. Seriously.

[purplecow0206]

Feb 4, 2015 13:29:11 GMT -5 bugandbibs said:

I know we've gotten off topic already, but I was too busy working to respond.

I have serious problems with Formula companies and their marketing campaigns. The problems they have caused in third world countries to make a profit are gross and evil. It's hard to see it in our bubble of having access to clean water, store aisles full of product, or WIC to help pay for formula as needed. I think that's what makes commercials like this so irksome and leaves a bad taste for some. I have issues with Medela too for some of their choices as a company and I love their products.

I want to be absolutely clear that I do not think that USING formula is evil or that it's a bad choice for parents. It is a valuable product.

ALL OF THIS! Many women in countries that breastfeeding would, in general*, be MUCH better for the babies don't because they've been convinced that the best way to feed their children is through the fancy formula that women in other countries all use, and bfing isn't the best way to go. Never mind that the water supply is less than fabulous and formula is so expensive that many women will dilute the mix to make it last longer.

It's a big reason why the WHO actually suggests that bfing should be done until age 2, mainly because it's the best source of food for young children in some parts of the world.

*That's not to say that there are women that would still benefit from formula feeding, but it's more problematic for rural parts of Africa, for example, when water collection can be an all day affair.

[thebreakfastclub]

The tangible, immediately lifestyle benefits of formula will always win out for me, and a lot of people.   Plus my kid is 2 now, who cares?

50% reduction in amount of time I had to feed the baby is more important to me than 50% reduction in ear infections.  My kid has had one EI and one GI bug anyway, LOL.  He could have had half of each!

Most importantly, I cannot take anyone who wears this in public seriously on any issue.   The high-low hemline is truly unforgivable.

 

[mrssandro]

Feb 4, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -5 narockshard said:

I tried the Target brand formula when I ran out of free samples early on and it made J super fussy, her spit up was gross, smelled bad, and was chunky, and her poops were awful. Plus the powder smelled awful. I was too scared to try anything else after that, so we've been using Enfamil ever since. Maybe at 7 months it's time to try generic again?

Also, I have tried generic (Meijer brand) diapers several different times and each time J got bad diaper rash.

Why does my child insist on name brands??!

The target formula is giving us the same results. DH insists that the brand blends better and less chunky. So we are switching back to the brand EnFamil. 

**we plan to save a little and buy it in bulk at Sams.

[popple]

Feb 4, 2015 12:32:22 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

Whatever happened to Jenna Von Oy?

Off to google...

She actually has a mommy blog. I read it once in a while when I'm really bored.

www.cradlechronicles.com/

[missmaddie]

Feb 4, 2015 8:31:45 GMT -5 shortstax said:

Umm, not everyone is heartbroken or struggles to breastfeed. Some choose to use formula. Or, how about those gay dads in the commercial?

I guess I don't see the need to "respond" to a commercial. If anything, doesn't this give it more press? Babies are getting fed, and doing well. Sounds like a win/win to me.

Donor milk, obviously.

How else are they going to build the natural immunities needed to fight deadly diseases without the need for vaccines and "ingredients"?

She drives me nuts.

[wilbs]

I agree that there aren't enough resources out there in terms of lactation consultants and doctors that fully understand breastfeeding. However at the same time, I think the constant encouraging of "make another appt with a lactation consultant, go to a LLL meeting, etc." can be super overwhelming when getting out of the house with a newborn you are struggling to feed feels like an enormous task to begin with.

If someone just has a samples of formula lying around and decides that's what works best for them in that moment and that leads them to giving up breastfeeding, what's the big deal? If their mental health is improved in the long run and their baby is fed, isn't that really all that matters? If someone choose to seek out those resources over and over again to make breastfeeding work, good for them, but another mom that choose not to do that shouldn't be made to feel guilty.

[missmaddie]

Feb 4, 2015 9:16:40 GMT -5 Jennyanydots said:

Yeah I don't get what is so offensive about artificial baby milk? Like...it was created to mimic breast milk...so that is what it is. I BF for 7 months and FF for 5 so I obviously am fine with both and this phrase doesn't bother me or make me feel judged at all.

The term doesn't really bother me that much either. There are many other arguments in her article I could pick apart over this.

I used articial milk (almond) in my smoothie a few mins ago. And I am sure MB uses artificial milk and doesn't dare consume dairy herself. Like you, I BF (well, EP'd) for 7 months, then mostly used formula and my small frozen stash. One was MY milk, and the other wasn't, but I hoped it would trick DS into thinking it was.

[sparkythelawyer]

Feb 4, 2015 12:39:58 GMT -5 @tambcat said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:34:44 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

I was in a lot of pain and had bleeding nipples from a bad latch, and had baby blues, too. I gave in and used the formula samples, too. But I had an LC tell me about cooling gel pads for nipples to help them heal, and helped me adjust his latch so it didn't hurt anymore. Personally, I *really* wanted to breastfeed (and make absolutely no judgment on how committed others are or aren't) and I cried watching FI feed DS formula. 

It pisses me off that formula companies count on women having trouble breastfeeding, plus having lack of support, to make money. I don't care how much they advertise on TV or in print or on the web. 

Sorry, I went zero - 60, and I really didn't mean to personally attack you, just the general anti-samples thing. I'm also bitter because my hospital went "baby friendly" after I had Joanna and I guess doesn't give the samples anymore. (Obviously I got formula for E since she was FF from the beginning.)  I also do hate that formula companies are portrayed as preying on new moms. I get that they are a business and yes, they are trying to get people to use their product, but they also do provide a valuable product. It's not like they are trying to get moms addicted to heroin. I don't know, just maybe some perspective here. (Not you in particular.)

Chiming in to say that the hospital I am delivering this one at is "Baby Friendly" and the term gives me all of the rages.  Baby Friendly?  WTF?  What do the "Baby Un-friendly" hospitals do, feed the newborns a steady diet of Mountain Dew?  No.  They *gasp* have things like well baby nurseries and don't try to put more pressure on you to BF.  Gah!

Sorry, this has been my weird soap box thing this pregnancy.  Carry on!

[rootbeerfloat]

Feb 4, 2015 12:32:22 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

Whatever happened to Jenna Von Oy?

Off to google...

Jenna Von Oy was a sorority girl at USC when I was there.

More interestingly, Joey Lawrence was a freshman the same year I was. He only attended one semester and only took one class. I seem to recall bodyguards, too. LOL.

[Deleted]

Feb 4, 2015 13:49:52 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

Feb 4, 2015 13:45:11 GMT -5 gravytrain225 said:

Oh there is absolutely a difference in the generic and brand name. We use Target because I'm cheap and don't think it matters, but every time I get a free brand name sample it is so much better.

When we tried Similac with DS1 he broke out completely. He was OK on Target - he is so MM!

Same with DD. Similac makes her spit up. Target is fine. #babiesareweird 

[h]

Feb 4, 2015 14:49:31 GMT -5 rootbeerfloat said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:32:22 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

Whatever happened to Jenna Von Oy?

Off to google...

Jenna Von Oy was a sorority girl at USC when I was there.

More interestingly, Joey Lawrence was a freshman the same year I was. He only attended one semester and only took one class. I seem to recall bodyguards, too. LOL.

Joey Lawrence had bodyguards? I cannot imagine why that was necessary.

[h]

Feb 4, 2015 14:55:15 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

I am impressed at all the Jenna Von Oy knowledge in this thread.

I am waiting for someone to come out and admit that they are, in fact, Jenna Von Oy. I would be so thoroughly entertained.

[Deleted]

Feb 4, 2015 14:58:17 GMT -5 h said:

Feb 4, 2015 14:55:15 GMT -5 @mrswindycity said:

I am impressed at all the Jenna Von Oy knowledge in this thread.

I am waiting for someone to come out and admit that they are, in fact, Jenna Von Oy. I would be so thoroughly entertained.

This is something someone should take up on Halloween on CEP

[Deleted]

Didn't see the commercial, don't care how other mothers feed their babies. I'm aware of the options I had and the choices I made as a result.

You're feeding your child? You're doing a great job!

[rbp]

Feb 4, 2015 11:56:08 GMT -5 cilantro said:

Feb 4, 2015 11:50:34 GMT -5 catbus said:

*Whispers* I've seen that on this very board. People are skeptical that the generic is "as good as" the real stuff, or they buy Motrin/Advil because they don't realize it's just ibuprofen. We never had the brand names in my house growing up, so I always assumed everyone knows Tylenol=acetaminophen, Advil=ibuprofen, etc. 

And now I want to move on with changing this thread to this topic....people have insisted to me that 'the binders' are different in generics v. real thing and that somehow matters.

Someone tell me if this is a real thing?!?!

Actually, only the active ingredients are required to be the same between generics and name-brand drugs. In some drugs, formulation makes a difference in absorption and therefore efficacy. So it is true that inactive ingredients can make a difference in how well a drug works for you.

But this is the case for a minority of situations. And certainly not for ibuprofen.

[rbp]

Feb 4, 2015 13:32:45 GMT -5 smock said:

I buy Advil for myself instead of generic because I just love that delicious sugar coating. Seriously.

SUCKER

[smock]

Feb 4, 2015 16:07:47 GMT -5 rbp said:

Feb 4, 2015 13:32:45 GMT -5 smock said:

I buy Advil for myself instead of generic because I just love that delicious sugar coating. Seriously.

SUCKER

Well I'll sit here enjoying my tasty, smooth Advil while you choke down chalky generic ibuprofen. MMM taste the difference!

[Deleted]

Feb 4, 2015 12:39:26 GMT -5 AmyRI said:

Feb 4, 2015 11:03:50 GMT -5 page said:

I honestly don't know why anyone gives a shit about how someone else feeds their baby.

Because we are a society that is supposed to be helping look after each other, and science has shown that breastfed babies and breastfeeding mothers are, on average, healthier. Increasing breastfeeding rates helps increase the general health of our society. This is why it is a public health concern, complete with the "breast is best" campaign, and not just a matter of choice.

Well I certainly hope every choice you are making in your life is to benefit the general health of our society.