Give MMmods some direction

[y4m]

Can we spend a thread talking about how this board should be run?

Is there anything aside from obvious spam and maliciously posted personal info that the mods should delete? What about regulars posting spamish stuff (e.g. vote for my kid or check out my etsy store?)? Is it cool to delete whole threads at the OP's request (since unfortunately you can't do that yourself here)?

Is there ever a time a thread should be locked? Moved to a subboard?

Anything controversial (like adding a subboard, apparently) - should we just follow a majority vote?

etc.

[CloudBee]

I'm fine with Etsy stores in sigs, but honestly find it annoying when people ask for votes for their kid. That would be fine if it were in their sig. I just don't want to see posts asking for votes for photo contests, etc. That is spammy. Put whatever you want in your sig is how I feel.

I think that threads should be deleted upon request by the OP.

[womet]

Y4M, thanks for getting this conversation started. You rock!

[countthestars]

May 16, 2012 9:34:45 GMT -5 y4m said:

Can we spend a thread talking about how this board should be run?

Is there anything aside from obvious spam and maliciously posted personal info that the mods should delete? Only if requested by OP
What about regulars posting spamish stuff (e.g. vote for my kid or check out my etsy store?)? I would prefer that all stay in signatures unless someone is specifically asking for something the person carries in their etsy store.
Is it cool to delete whole threads at the OP's request (since unfortunately you can't do that yourself here)? Yes, if the OP requests, Mods should delete

Is there ever a time a thread should be locked? Moved to a subboard?

Anything controversial (like adding a subboard, apparently) - should we just follow a majority vote? Majority vote works for me

etc.

[Deleted]

- all "spam" (vote for me, blogs, etc) - in sig only
- major changes by majority (51%) vote
- delete threads only if they contain personal info that was quoted. No deleting for flaming

[Deleted]

May 16, 2012 9:47:27 GMT -5 @iheartcosmos said:

- all "spam" (vote for me, blogs, etc) - in sig only
- major changes by majority (51%) vote
- delete threads only if they contain personal info that was quoted. No deleting for flaming

I agree with this. I know some people have asked about the posibility of DD-ing threads, but I think a good solution would be to ask subsequent posters not to quote your original post. That way you could go back in and edit the information out.

[ijack]

I like majority rules on sub boards and stuff like that. I think that posts should be deleted after a request by the OP or in situations where personal info is posted (like if I posted someone's name and address then anyone should be able to ask for it to be taken down). Asking for votes and links to stores are okay in siggies.

[Deleted]

I've never seen enough "vote for my kid" posts to really be that annoying. It's not like we have them everyday.

Please don't create anymore subforums. I think three is enough. This is a message board, where people can post whatever they please. We all interact with each other on a daily basis and I think the quality of MM would really decrease if we divided it up into a lot of multiple boards.

[countthestars]

For the majority vote, should we set up a time frame? Like, 1 day/3 days/7 days? While I am here every day, I'm not sure that everyone is.

[vanillacourage]

No more sub-boards - in fact, given that the Coupon board has only 8 threads, I'm not sure we need it at all.

IMO mods should delete by request of the OP, even if some people think it's dumb (b/c flames have happened, etc). JMO.

The only time a thread should be locked is if the regular mod isn't around and a "guest" mod is consulting with others on how to handle the thread's content (if it doesn't meet the standard for immediate deletion).

[Deleted]

May 16, 2012 9:47:27 GMT -5 @iheartcosmos said:

- all "spam" (vote for me, blogs, etc) - in sig only
- major changes by majority (51%) vote
- delete threads only if they contain personal info that was quoted. No deleting for flaming

:Y:

[LoveTrains]

I don't think we should delete for flaming purposes. I think deletion should be reserved for personal info. Can't someone edit a post anyway to remove the personal info if they want? one of those "poof now its gone" type of things?

[dr.girlfriend]

I honestly don't think we get enough spam from regulars to make it an issue. If a regular does want votes for something, deleting the post would likely cause one million times the nuisance with "where did that post go? where's the line? what's up?" related posts than we would have just dealing with the one vote-requesting post.

I think the sub-boards we have are good, and additional subboards should be added only when there are enough posts cluttering up the main board to warrant them, and enough people want it. Now that YOU CAN VIEW ALL POSTS IN ONE SCREEN, INCLUDING SUB-BOARD POSTS (Thanks for the alert, AmeliaPond!) it really is the best of both worlds. Genius.

I think it's okay to move clearly baby-related posts, like the Baby Name one. But, one like Bear Riding Another Bear should be left alone for all of us to enjoy.

I think (if there's not already) there should be a sticky at the top, warning people that they cannot delete a thread and therefore if they want to provide sensitive information, maybe they should do it as a guest. Otherwise, if a mod can go into a post and delete quoted info that is sensitive, that is a better solution. Deleting the whole thread would be my least favored option.

[BAMFMrsB]

this thread (this specific quote) has some pointers from other commonly used VB boards:

pandce.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=2817&page=3#37515

[theintended]

I don't think mods should be burdened with "vote for me" thread deletion. Their efforts should be focused on protecting users from unwilling revelation of personal details and egregious spamming incidents. Calling in a mod should be a rare occurrence.

[Deleted]

I know I'm in the minority here so this may not fly, but I think that if the OP wants a thread deleted, it should be deleted. I think most of us "regulars" know better than to delete a post for flaming anyway. It is usually just the random newbies who do that. I think that if a person is not comfortable with their personal information being out there (by whatever definition of personal they follow), then it shouldn't stay out there.

I definitely think DDing should be allowed - I almost posted a work related thread last night and decided against it since I'd want to take it down after getting answers and knew it would be hard to do.

I also don't think the mods should delete "vote for my kid" threads unless they get spammy - like the person is posting in other threads asking for votes or posting several times a day. This doesn't seem to really be an issue anyway and I think it is kind of rude to just delete those without warning.

Other than that, I think to a point they should just use good judgement. If a thread is getting really out of hand then they should intervene. I don't think that happens very often either (unless the Nest was taking care of this without my knowledge) so I really think it can be a case by case basis. I don't know Pixi (is that a new name?) but I trust Womet's judgement and find it unlikely our mods are going to power trip and start deleting things unreasonably.

[keh2oblue]

May 16, 2012 9:50:08 GMT -5 papiercherri said:

I've never seen enough "vote for my kid" posts to really be that annoying. It's not like we have them everyday.

Please don't create anymore subforums. I think three is enough. This is a message board, where people can post whatever they please. We all interact with each other on a daily basis and I think the quality of MM would really decrease if we divided it up into a lot of multiple boards.

I agree!

[theintended]

May 16, 2012 10:03:24 GMT -5 @buckybells said:

I definitely think DDing should be allowed - I almost posted a work related thread last night and decided against it since I'd want to take it down after getting answers and knew it would be hard to do.

I'd like to hear from the mods how they feel about this. I don't want to abuse the mods' time. I could see lots of requests to delete threads becoming a hassle.

[Deleted]

May 16, 2012 9:47:27 GMT -5 @iheartcosmos said:

- all "spam" (vote for me, blogs, etc) - in sig only
- major changes by majority (51%) vote
- delete threads only if they contain personal info that was quoted. No deleting for flaming

This. I would be okay with ONE post for a Vote for my ____.

[y4m]

I lean toward allowing OPs to have a thread deleted that contains sensitive info. That lets people post things that are sensitive about work or home without having to worry about being quoted and that stuff living forever.

I lean toward not allowing OPs to have a thread deleted that does not contain sensitive info, but that went a direction they didn't expect or don't like.

Yes to DDing threads because they are personal. No to DDing threads because you're getting flamed. The easiest way to have a bright line about this is for OPs to write things like "I reserve the right to DD this later" when they are posting something they plan to have removed.

[Kore]

I think the mods should be hands-off with editing/deleting posts unless a post needs to be deleted due to the malicious sharing of personal info or those Chinese spammers with the hooker dresses start posting.

I also think the boards should have some autonomy without having to run every single change past the mod group. If a mod is found to be abusing power, Ellie can demote them. Otherwise, let the boards vote & decide if they want sub-forums or a new name or whatever.

[y4m]

May 16, 2012 10:10:08 GMT -5 theintended said:

May 16, 2012 10:03:24 GMT -5 @buckybells said:

I definitely think DDing should be allowed - I almost posted a work related thread last night and decided against it since I'd want to take it down after getting answers and knew it would be hard to do.

I'd like to hear from the mods how they feel about this. I don't want to abuse the mods' time. I could see lots of requests to delete threads becoming a hassle.

There haven't been many so far. Maybe there would be a few a week. I don't mind as long as there's not an expectation from the OP that we'll drop everything to come do it.

[womet]

I agree with Y4M, we don't have many DDs per week. So it shouldn't be too bad. If for whatever reason, neither of us is around, a global mod can step in and DD. {At least, that's my understanding of how it can work.}

[juris11]

May 16, 2012 10:12:21 GMT -5 y4m said:

I lean toward allowing OPs to have a thread deleted that contains sensitive info. That lets people post things that are sensitive about work or home without having to worry about being quoted and that stuff living forever.

I lean toward not allowing OPs to have a thread deleted that does not contain sensitive info, but that went a direction they didn't expect or don't like.

Yes to DDing threads because they are personal. No to DDing threads because you're getting flamed. The easiest way to have a bright line about this is for OPs to write things like "I reserve the right to DD this later" when they are posting something they plan to have removed.

I agree with this. Something may be personal to you, because it is a situation you might not want left out there on the internet, but it isn't personal in the sense of being your real name, address, etc. Usually people state that they may DD later. I don't have a problem with people not wanting something sensitive to stay out there on the boards.

[SJ]

I think each board should be allowed to be fairly autonomous and the mods should be allowed to make decisions based on majority vote without having to get the whole "mod group" on board. Each mod should know their own board enough to be able to make decisions.

I don't have strong opinions on deletions.

I think you are doing an AWESOME job!

[vanillacourage]

May 16, 2012 10:12:21 GMT -5 y4m said:

Yes to DDing threads because they are personal. No to DDing threads because you're getting flamed. The easiest way to have a bright line about this is for OPs to write things like "I reserve the right to DD this later" when they are posting something they plan to have removed.

Yes, but then the comments still remain. You can "poof" your OP but if people quote you, or their replies give a pretty good indication of what your post was about (i.e. details of a work situation, or like when my two friends f*cked a towel bar right off the bathroom wall when we had a BBQ - whoops!) then not being able to delete an entire thread will have a chilling effect on the board. I know it's made me think twice about what I post, and often the best/most entertaining threads are about dramatic subject matter.

[y4m]

May 16, 2012 10:18:01 GMT -5 womet said:

I agree with Y4M, we don't have many DDs per week. So it shouldn't be too bad. If for whatever reason, neither of us is around, a global mod can step in and DD. {At least, that's my understanding of how it can work.}

A global mod technically can delete a thread on any board. But I don't know if they should on a board that isn't their normal one, since it sounds like every board will have different standards about this. I don't want to be in a situation where I'm asked to do something as a global mod that that boards' normal mods wouldn't do.

[y4m]

May 16, 2012 10:20:24 GMT -5 vanillacourage said:

May 16, 2012 10:12:21 GMT -5 y4m said:

Yes to DDing threads because they are personal. No to DDing threads because you're getting flamed. The easiest way to have a bright line about this is for OPs to write things like "I reserve the right to DD this later" when they are posting something they plan to have removed.

Yes, but then the comments still remain. You can "poof" your OP but if people quote you, or their replies give a pretty good indication of what your post was about (i.e. details of a work situation, or like when my two friends f*cked a towel bar right off the bathroom wall when we had a BBQ - whoops!) then not being able to delete an entire thread will have a chilling effect on the board. I know it's made me think twice about what I post, and often the best/most entertaining threads are about dramatic subject matter.

We're talking about Mods deleting the whole thread at the OP's request. I think the cleanest way to do it is that if you plan to ask us to delete the whole thread later because the topic is personal, you just say that you plan to do that upfront.

[Wines Not Whines]

I think mods should delete posts if the OP makes that request, especially if people quote the OP in their responses.

[womet]

May 16, 2012 10:21:44 GMT -5 y4m said:

May 16, 2012 10:18:01 GMT -5 womet said:

I agree with Y4M, we don't have many DDs per week. So it shouldn't be too bad. If for whatever reason, neither of us is around, a global mod can step in and DD. {At least, that's my understanding of how it can work.}

A global mod technically can delete a thread on any board. But I don't know if they should on a board that isn't their normal one, since it sounds like every board will have different standards about this. I don't want to be in a situation where I'm asked to do something as a global mod that that boards' normal mods wouldn't do.

Good point. I could see that causing a firestorm if a post was deleted and normal board rules wouldn't have it deleted.