There is a poster on MMM that didn't get a full time position she applied for. It does sound like she had been led to believe she was going to get the job, but it was offered to someone else. Someone who hadn't been there as long as she had. Because the other person interviewed better and had slightly better work ethic (this is what she said her boss told her).
Some of the things she has said to her boss are blowing my mind. Like she demanded to know why she didn't get the job. Hell would freeze over before she apologized for being rude. And talking back to her when she received a phone call that she didn't get the job.
IDK. It just seems....unnecessarily rude.
But then I am about as non-confrontational as they come, so maybe I'm the one who is wrong here.
I think I remember this thread. I would definitely want to say it, but wouldn't. I would likely have asked for feedback and to know why I didn't get the position, but would have just started applying for other jobs after that and left it at that. Not much more to say and sounds like she may potentially be jeopardizing a relationship with someone who would be called on as a reference.
EDIT: This was not the post I thought it was. I was referencing a library position.
Well, I think it is ok to ask why you aren't selected for a position. I always told people why they weren't selected because they need to know what to work on when they want to get a promotion the next time. If I was not selected I would want to know why.
But I need to go read this thread then make a fully informed judgement.
This situation doesn't even make sense--she's pissed because the boss informally implied the job would be hers, but the boss was only one person on a committee that chose who to hire. The boss couldn't promise the job in the first place!
I get being frustrated, but her own actions (specifically in today's DD'd post) have been extremely unprofessional.
Post by formerlyak on May 18, 2015 15:11:11 GMT -5
I see no issue with asking respectfully why you were turned down for a job and asking how you might increase your skills and experience in certain areas so that you might be more competitive for a similar job in the future. That said, it doesn't sound like this poster handled it that way. YIKE
Well, I think it is ok to ask why you aren't selected for a position. I always told people why they weren't selected because they need to know what to work on when they want to get a promotion the next time. If I was not selected I would want to know why.
But I need to go read this thread then make a fully informed judgement.
All the threads with actual details have been DD'd.
Well, I think it is ok to ask why you aren't selected for a position. I always told people why they weren't selected because they need to know what to work on when they want to get a promotion the next time. If I was not selected I would want to know why.
But I need to go read this thread then make a fully informed judgement.
I'm all about asking about asking questions after you don't get a position. But more in a "Would you mind sharing with me how I could better prepare myself for this position so that next time you have an opening I would be a more competitive candidate?" ....or something to that nature.
But "demanding to know why I wasn't chosen"......isn't something I would do.
Post by noodleskooze on May 18, 2015 15:13:23 GMT -5
I have been following the backstory, and, while I feel for the poster (getting turned down for a job SUCKS), I don't think she handled the rejection well. It's obviously emotional for her, and I understand because I'm in a similar position. I don't want to kick her while she's down and I do hope she is able to leave there and find something more fulfilling.
Well, I think it is ok to ask why you aren't selected for a position. I always told people why they weren't selected because they need to know what to work on when they want to get a promotion the next time. If I was not selected I would want to know why.
But I need to go read this thread then make a fully informed judgement.
All the threads with actual details have been DD'd.
Personally, I'd never speak to my boss the way she described this going down, no matter how much animosity existed between us. Um, (s)he's still your boss. You in danger, girl.
No, not at all! I didn't know there was a deleted thread, so I was confused how the recap in this OP came just from what is in the post that is linked. I usually lurk much more frequently over here than there
I don't know the backstory, but I don't think it's ever a good idea to tell your boss you'll apologize when hell freezes over.
I read the backstory & still agree with you. In this case, a lot of the things said would definitely be going through my mind...but they're still not appropriate to say to a boss.
It'll be seen as justification for why the other applicant was chosen and significantly impact her ability to get a glowing reference (or personal referral!) for another job. Some things are just better left unsaid...or significantly filtered first.
Well, I think it is ok to ask why you aren't selected for a position. I always told people why they weren't selected because they need to know what to work on when they want to get a promotion the next time. If I was not selected I would want to know why.
But I need to go read this thread then make a fully informed judgement.
I'm all about asking about asking questions after you don't get a position. But more in a "Would you mind sharing with me how I could better prepare myself for this position so that next time you have an opening I would be a more competitive candidate?" ....or something to that nature.
But "demanding to know why I wasn't chosen"......isn't something I would do.
You are the normal one. That person isn't "leaning in" or "ballsy." She's unprofessional.
Hermione's (henceforth "OP") boss indicated that she would eventually receive a full time position should one come available (note: following having her kiddo, OP chose to move from 30 hours/week I believe to 20 hours/week)
OP applies for and does not get full time job. It was given to a younger colleague.
OP drafts an email to her boss's boss that rips her boss for leading her on re: full time employment and also throws a bunch of other stuff in there about her boss telling her confidential information, etc. She was discouraged by GBCN from sending the email but it sounds like she did speak with her boss's boss about the whole thing and I would not be surprised if her boss knew she threw her under the bus.
I did see the original email actually. It was....not good. I hope it wasn't sent.
If the OP didn't send it, I am curious to know how the relationship with her boss fell apart so quickly. I DO get that I don't deserve to know this, I'm just being nosy. lol
Hermione's (henceforth "OP") boss indicated that she would eventually receive a full time position should one come available (note: following having her kiddo, OP chose to move from 30 hours/week I believe to 20 hours/week)
OP applies for and does not get full time job. It was given to a younger colleague.
OP drafts an email to her boss's boss that rips her boss for leading her on re: full time employment and also throws a bunch of other stuff in there about her boss telling her confidential information, etc. She was discouraged by GBCN from sending the email but it sounds like she did speak with her boss's boss about the whole thing and I would not be surprised if her boss knew she threw her under the bus.
You forgot the part about how she told her boss to "Go Sat Down!!"