When it's time to say goodbye.

[turnipthebeet]

I got to page 4 of squirrelymom's thread and had to give up. There's some major entitlement and a lot of bootstrapping going on over there, jfc. SM, I am sorry that you had to deal with that. I don't know a lot about your background, but I hope that things are looking up now.

There has just been a lot of unnecessary pain, and so many instances of it having been instigated by one person.

[gpw]

That gofundme thread is just. There aren't even words. Why do you put that sentiment in THAT particular thread?

I see you people liking that shit. Everyone does.

[auberge]

Holy crap. I've spent the last hour catching up on all this.

SMO I'm so sorry this happened and you feel you have to leave. Whoever did this is a coward. A pathetic, no life having asshole.

[darnkatz]

Jan 31, 2016 0:15:48 GMT -5 gpw said:

That gofundme thread is just. There aren't even words. Why do you put that sentiment in THAT particular thread?

I see you people liking that shit. Everyone does.

This is me over here right now:

[iammalcolmx]

Jan 31, 2016 0:00:55 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Jan 30, 2016 23:49:45 GMT -5 y4m said:

The package was sent in the middle of a heated thread, from a site that has been widely discussed on this board, and smo's name (and former address) was obtained through common social network connections with others here.

There is little doubt that a poster here did this - and not just any poster, but a regular one with social connections to others.

Just to make it all CEP, I do believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty.  And yet, like the NSA, I think if you have nothing to hide, why fear interrogation?  I find it telling that the suspect here disappeared for the day, despite the fact that Proboards had her tagged as online practically all day.  I know for a fact that if I were accused, I would be vehemently defending myself while providing receipts to you and EllieArroway .  This isn't a court of law; it's the Internet.   

If you are talking about Booby she WAS here earlier today and tried to defend herself.  Her edges got snatched so badly she is most likely trying on lacefronts. She is currently being dragged so badly you would think she was the one who passes out tickets to the Oscars. 
I am not sure she can provide receipt's to any of this Mods. The truth will come out if they can get that IP address. In the meantime, her returning will not go well. 

[MrsAxilla]

Jan 31, 2016 0:44:29 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Jan 31, 2016 0:00:55 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Just to make it all CEP, I do believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty.  And yet, like the NSA, I think if you have nothing to hide, why fear interrogation?  I find it telling that the suspect here disappeared for the day, despite the fact that Proboards had her tagged as online practically all day.  I know for a fact that if I were accused, I would be vehemently defending myself while providing receipts to you and EllieArroway .  This isn't a court of law; it's the Internet.   

If you are talking about Booby she WAS here earlier today and tried to defend herself.  Her edges got snatched so badly she is most likely trying on lacefronts. She is currently being dragged so badly you would think she was the one who passes out tickets to the Oscars. 
I am not sure she can provide receipt's to any of this Mods. The truth will come out if they can get that IP address. In the meantime, her returning will not go well. 

Right.  She waltzed in with her "sympathies" and then made like a banana and split when called out.  I cannot fathom a scenario where I was accused of something this heinous and then just disappeared and let the boards get all spun up about me if I was innocent.  

[Deleted]

Jan 31, 2016 0:44:29 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Jan 31, 2016 0:00:55 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Just to make it all CEP, I do believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty.  And yet, like the NSA, I think if you have nothing to hide, why fear interrogation?  I find it telling that the suspect here disappeared for the day, despite the fact that Proboards had her tagged as online practically all day.  I know for a fact that if I were accused, I would be vehemently defending myself while providing receipts to you and EllieArroway .  This isn't a court of law; it's the Internet.   

 Her edges got snatched so badly she is most likely trying on lacefronts. 

 Why must you kill me dead just about every damn day!?! -------------------------------->

[YeahSure]

Smo, Even though I'm new here, I've been enjoying getting to know this community, and had noticed and liked your posts. I understand why you are leaving, but I will miss you. I'm so sorry that someone did this to you. It breaks my heart that any person can treat another like this. And I'm not just talking about the horrible message sent by mail to your home, but by the dreadful way that you and the other WOC have been treated here. It makes me sick.

[maryanne]

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I don't even have the right words to express how gross and offensive this is.

[sonrisa]

Jan 30, 2016 16:18:14 GMT -5 turnipthebeet said:

Super lurker, but I remember in the other thread when Kirkette said she was worried for her and her kids' safety, and so many people jumped in to tell her that she had nothing to worry about, that basically nothing off-board would happen. And look what happens, less than a week later.

Smo, I am sorry that this happened to you. Fuck whoever did this.

I'm one of those assholes.

Yes, I think booby is an asshole and I've called her out for bigotry both in that discussion and before. But I was a naive idiot and told kirkette I didn't think her kids were at risk. But obviously I was wrong because someone did go beyond the boards. I've since apologized to her for that.

(I know this post is pages back but I'm only now working my way through. When I saw KOKO's thread on ML I felt almost responsible because I'd preemptively dismissed this type of threat.) 

[sonrisa]

Jan 30, 2016 23:51:52 GMT -5 @nofucksgiven said:

"booby is just being booby"

I've said those words on ML. They aren't as positive as you may think.  On ML, I'm pretty certain everyone knows I mean "being a vile bigoted asshole." Just like when she says I'm "just being sonrisa" she means "fucking annoying kill joy." We get along well.

[Black Lavender]

SMo...please know you will be missed beyond belief, I just can't believe this foolishness.

I was hoping by the time I got to the end of this thread, the bitch ass, thumb thugging, MF'er would have been wise enough to out themselves. But no, they haven't so I see you're going to have to get a Amber Rose/Kanye type clap back. Trust that this shit is NOT going away...

Sent from my XT1096 using proboards

[underwaterrhymes]

squirrelymom - ❤️

[annieblah]

Jan 31, 2016 0:50:59 GMT -5 @kirkette said:

Jan 31, 2016 0:04:24 GMT -5 annieblah said:

I'm having a hard time thinking of the post the other day-miso comes to mind. I couldn't then and still can't understand her stance on not slamming pilotgrigio/booby. I just can't. And, I'm sickened by the ml board after kirkette and squirrly.

Do not blame miso, or question her motives.
She has been an excellent friend to me through out all of this mess.
There was no way to tell the extent of Booby's manipulation, and disgusting behavior.
It could have easily been written off as a personality/ BEC conflict without me providing more details to give the whole story.Even then, I didn't expect her (if it's her), or anyone else to go after Smo with their missed place aggression. 

Earlier this week, I sent a warning of legal action to Booby.  So, perhaps that's why someone innocent was targeted.  The sloppiness and hatred of it all is unbelievable. 
I probably wouldn't believe it except for the fact that we (posters of color, Smo most recentlyand aggresively) got placed in crossfires of someone else's evil ways. 

As a general rule, I chose to to operate with love, humanity, and kindness. It's my Catholic Lite background that guides me in this direction. So, I can't understand people who chose to operate from a place of hate. I know hate is irrational, but I'm still really perplexed by such actions. 

I respect your post here. I am still struggling with reconciling the lack of smacking (it's early, I can't think of a better word) on her part but again, she is your friend.

[feistypants]

Jan 30, 2016 23:45:13 GMT -5 sandsonik1 said:

Jan 30, 2016 23:33:06 GMT -5 @wandering said:

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Can you just stop talking? Seriously.

[teflepi]

Why are toledo posts all disappearing? Like, every single one.

[teflepi]

And now LHC too? This does sound very.....off.

[karinothing]

Didn't they turn off deletions?

[iammalcolmx]

Jan 31, 2016 1:00:33 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Jan 31, 2016 0:44:29 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

If you are talking about Booby she WAS here earlier today and tried to defend herself.  Her edges got snatched so badly she is most likely trying on lacefronts. She is currently being dragged so badly you would think she was the one who passes out tickets to the Oscars. 
I am not sure she can provide receipt's to any of this Mods. The truth will come out if they can get that IP address. In the meantime, her returning will not go well. 

Right.  She waltzed in with her "sympathies" and then made like a banana and split when called out.  I cannot fathom a scenario where I was accused of something this heinous and then just disappeared and let the boards get all spun up about me if I was innocent.  

Nope she replied a few times after being called out. People are angry and not just the possibility of her doing this but the rotten stuff she previously said. It's usually SOP to go incognito when your bad behavior is discussed with receipts provided. 

[jeaniebueller]

They are deleting their posts? Are you kidding me?

[underwaterrhymes]

toledo and Lucy Honeychurch have both been vocal opponents to racism. If their posts are disappearing, I'm guessing a mod deleted for them.

I would be absolutely shocked if either had any role in (or, for that matter, knowledge of) sending offensive materials in the mail to Smo.

[skwcm80]

Jan 31, 2016 7:59:12 GMT -5 teflepi said:

And now LHC too? This does sound very.....off.

I skimmed SM's gofundme thread, and I thought I'd missed Mofongo's posts. I only saw them when someone else had quoted. I went back, her posts are gone. Given they she was one of Booby's vocal supporters I'm suspicious.

[underwaterrhymes]

Jan 31, 2016 8:32:58 GMT -5 @246baje said:

toledo was the one who was still unsure toward the end of the shitshow why @kirkette was soooo upset. I at least quoted her in that one.

Deleting is..... strange.

We will probably get some white tears on it not being a safe place which misses the poin that this was a racially motivated incident.

I do think that deleting is probably related to the "not a safe place" thing.

And I also agree that this was a racially motivated incident. The alarm expressed is frustrating because it's more of a recognition of the fact that people can be tracked down rather than an acknowledgment of the racism that drove this.

[WanderingWinoZ]

holy hell...I'm reading more of hte post & understanding all the back story that makes this all the more gross & heinous than I fully grasped before.

I don't think it was directed at me, but my statement of being nervous was poorly worded because I was in shock that this was happening. Without even knowing that the harassment was racially motivated, the thought that anybody in our community would be targeted like this just makes me fearful because I"m a big scaredy cat & avoid all drama. I've been bullied at only a tiny fraction the severity and gravity of @smo's situation & I can't even imagine how violated she must feel. It sucks feeling powerless that I can do anything or help this situation other than to say I'll keep listening/learning from the WOC on this board & commit to being more diligent about subtle racism and not dismissive of the actual threats/fears that WOC must face.

This is such a devastating thing for our whole community- both the fear that it instills and the loss of Smo

[iammalcolmx]

If people are deleting my guess is trying to get rid of stuff posted while at work? However, IT departments have everything backed up so the evidence is still there.

[gringachef]

How dare you!
How dare you violate her privacy like this? Stalking her online, finding her address and actually going so far as to click "confirm order" on that website? All the while smiling like the Cheshire Cat. You should feel nothing but shame.
Are you jealous that this strong, brilliant black woman is finding success and speaking her mind?
She was put here on this earth to do good. Every day she fights for the rights of people of color and women. Who are you to even consider attempting to fuck with her?! You are a worthless excuse for a human being. Go to hell.

[Vespasia]

I've been trying to come up with something meaningful to say since yesterday and failing. No one deserves to be violated in such a way but to attack Smo is especially heinous. I truly hope the poster(s) involved are found out and that this has repercussions in their off-board life.

[feistypants]

I thought deleting was disabled. Is that not the case, EllieArroway? Or is it just whole threads that can't be deleted?

[MrsAxilla]

HOW are they deleting?!?

[y4m]

If people are continuing to find ways to delete it will be captured in our log.