undecidedowl I'm kidding with you. I wouldn't trust me either, seeing as how I'm a newb here. I promise I'm harmless and nice.
We've all spent the last 24 hours searching public criminal records, AZ cottage kitchen laws (whatever that is lol), and reporting her to some licensing board. LOL
So lol at the "what a creeper!" We're all creepers right now! hahaha
I feel like this is one of those times where I truly need to be thankful for GBCN teaching me so much. I would have never researched AZ Cottage Kitchen Laws if it weren't for this place.
So if her house is rented and isn't paid off in full as she said, then she really must not have the money she claims. But how did she fund all those trips??? Can we please figure that one out!
Credit cards?
What does her husband do, since it's unclear whether they're divorced.
So if her house is rented and isn't paid off in full as she said, then she really must not have the money she claims. But how did she fund all those trips??? Can we please figure that one out!
Well she obviously makes some money. So I would say the money she makes and potentially credit card debt or some other sort of fraud.
If you assume she was telling the truth in the Tucson news article, or at least not exaggerating too much, she said she grossed $200k at a 50% margin. That gives her $100k profit, maybe $70k after taxes?
That's a nice chunk of cash to be able to use for travel.
She's not paying daycare, is renting a cheap house, and appears to have no social life since she's always busy breastfeeding her 500 year old child.
So if her house is rented and isn't paid off in full as she said, then she really must not have the money she claims. But how did she fund all those trips??? Can we please figure that one out!
I think she could still make money. Buying/paying off the house doesn't mean she doesn't have disposable income for lavish (and frequent) vacations. Saying she bought/paid off the house was an "easy" lie to make her seem more normal (buying a house) and responsible (paying it off early). Why say you rent when then there's a good chance your landlord doesn't approve of you running a home business out of their home?!
So if her house is rented and isn't paid off in full as she said, then she really must not have the money she claims. But how did she fund all those trips??? Can we please figure that one out!
Credit cards?
What does her husband do, since it's unclear whether they're divorced.
Works for an agency who employs a clever lizard as their spokesperson, according to easily trackable info.
ETA: also, for money laundering. I don't think she's doing it. However, I *think*, if my Breaking Bad education is at all correct, she could start a gofundme (or similar) and donate to that through her business. The gofundme could go back to her. And she can write off the deductions on her taxes, making her taxable income/profit lower and her charitable distributions larger. Which brings us back to the fake dead child. Ends meat.
So if her house is rented and isn't paid off in full as she said, then she really must not have the money she claims. But how did she fund all those trips??? Can we please figure that one out!
Credit cards?
What does her husband do, since it's unclear whether they're divorced.
On that you tube video of her kid that someone linked, he said that daddy worked for [an insurance company that rhymes with psycho].
Yeah, but sorry, not everyone on this board (I'm speaking generally) is my "friend." And I would have no idea who intended to buy cookies from her. So IF I had bought cookies from her AND had a shitty interaction I would probably PM my closest friends if I knew they were considering the same thing. But I wouldn't put someone on blast because of one interaction I had with her, because I really would have no idea if it was common. IRL I do the same thing. I have a shitty dining experience, I possibly leave a poor Yelp review, but I'm not the type to go on Facebook and blast out my poor experience. That's just not what I do.
I don't either, but the friend/family thing was mentioned numerous times in the beginning. I don't want friends/family like that. And I would have warned the few friends I do have here if I knew anything. Now what they decide to do with that info is on them, but I wouldn't have any guilt.
I think part of no one going public with their individual incidents (and keeping them to pms) is that celiac herself had a lot of sympathy from the board, and she was a regular for a couple of years - we "knew" her before the cookie business iirc. She wasn't a board darling or anything and had been called out a number of times in the past, but I imagine the few that found her difficult to do business with also felt a certain amount of sympathy for her and didn't want to be the jerk who called out the single mom with a deadbeat xh, who was doing the best she could to build a life for her and her son (and apparently doing a good job). Especially if she generally has good reviews on the Internet and you can pass off your own experience as maybe an isolated stress related incident or something.
If you assume she was telling the truth in the Tucson news article, or at least not exaggerating too much, she said she grossed $200k at a 50% margin. That gives her $100k profit, maybe $70k after taxes?
That's a nice chunk of cash to be able to use for travel.
She's not paying daycare, is renting a cheap house, and appears to have no social life since she's always busy breastfeeding her 500 year old child.
So if her house is rented and isn't paid off in full as she said, then she really must not have the money she claims. But how did she fund all those trips??? Can we please figure that one out!
I believe this goes back to @bunnybean 's money laundering theory from the money she fraudulently fundraised in 2008-2009.
But none of us have watched Breaking Bad in awhile so we can't figure out money laundering enough to explain how exactly. lol
I know how to identify it in clients who use their investment accounts to launder money. Didn't make it past episode two of Breaking Bad though. So I am guessing this board knows more than my annual training at work teaches me.
WHICH IS IT. Unemployed or an insurance agent!?!?!?!?!
or none of the above? lol
I'm trying to verify my unemployed comment now! I SWEAR she said he was unemployed, but like 10 people just said he worked for Schmeico so maybe I made that up?
I'm sure she lied to US, here on the board, that he is unemployed. I recall that too, when she was discussing the divorce proceedings, him not visiting their son, no child support, etc. The lizard thing only came to light yesterday with our super sleuthing.
But then isn't she paying money on the fraudulent 50 dollars that she wouldn't have had to pay otherwise? why cant she just keep it in a different account and you know...do whatever...with it?
Is that because the IRS would eventually notice?
ETA I promise I'm not endorsing actually avoiding paying taxes. It just seems weird to do something illegal (ie falsify receipts and sales records) so that you do something legal (ie pay taxes.)
My understanding is yes, you want all spending to come from clean accounts.
undecidedowl I'm kidding with you. I wouldn't trust me either, seeing as how I'm a newb here. I promise I'm harmless and nice.
We've all spent the last 24 hours searching public criminal records, AZ cottage kitchen laws (whatever that is lol), and reporting her to some licensing board. LOL
So lol at the "what a creeper!" We're all creepers right now! hahaha
Lol, yes but we are all creeping on someone who duped us! Every other time big drama goes down and the lurkers pop up there is outrage. I guess we allow it when they come with facts?
I don't really care either way, I'll be following the drama feeling sufficiently weirded out regardless. It just surprised me that someone with no history here was so invested.
We've all spent the last 24 hours searching public criminal records, AZ cottage kitchen laws (whatever that is lol), and reporting her to some licensing board. LOL
So lol at the "what a creeper!" We're all creepers right now! hahaha
Lol, yes but we are all creeping on someone who duped us! Every other time big drama goes down and the lurkers pop up there is outrage. I guess we allow it when they come with facts?
I don't really care either way, I'll be following the drama feeling sufficiently weirded out regardless. It just surprised me that someone with no history here was so invested.
But she trolled other proboards forums & other non-proboards message boards. This is way bigger than GBCN.
Essentially you create fake transactions for the drug money. So you write receipts for 50 extra cars to go through the car wash, so you can deposit that drug money into the business.
You pay taxes, but it's now been "laundered" and comes out clean on the other side.
Honestly, this is still confusing as hell. Lol
Basically the idea is to make it look as though the money is being made through legal means so you pretend you're earning it one way (selling cookies) when you're really earning it another (credit card fraud, scamming people, donations, etc). The best ways in which to do this are to actually have a service or product that you make money off of, you just pretend that you're selling more than you actually are in reality. So instead of reporting that you sold two dozen bars today, you report that you sold three dozen and that extra money that came from various cons is reported and now looks like legitimate earnings.
I think she came back to defend herself (lol) under some name on MM...Amanda something? She was called out and disappeared. I am not sure if she is back as a 3rd person.
Lol, yes but we are all creeping on someone who duped us! Every other time big drama goes down and the lurkers pop up there is outrage. I guess we allow it when they come with facts?
I don't really care either way, I'll be following the drama feeling sufficiently weirded out regardless. It just surprised me that someone with no history here was so invested.
But she trolled other proboards forums & other non-proboards message boards. This is way bigger than GBCN.
Ahhh. (idea) I was wondering how someone from elsewhere on proboards even found this.
I can't keep up with all the the forums celiac was trolling. How the hell did she keep this going for so long?
I'm not on here nearly as often as I used to. I didn't know that we had posters on this board who do this? Who are you referring to? I'd like to know so I can avoid their posts.
I just found a picture of Celiac plus her baby plus the little girl she claimed was her dead daughter.
Just in case anyone was thinking that she may have been telling the truth about her TeachKinder backstory.
And with that, I bid you all adieu and hope that psychopath troll gets help.
So the little girl is a relative or something? How flipping pissed would you be if you found out your friend/relative was using your kids pictures on the internet attached to a morbid story?
I'm not on here nearly as often as I used to. I didn't know that we had posters on this board who do this? Who are you referring to? I'd like to know so I can avoid their posts.
I don't want to speak for TamiTaylor , but I am also bothered by this. AFAIK, all we knew at the time of banning celiac was that she told some despicable lies in the past (not even on our current board). I don't think we had any evidence of her actually conning people out of money before quickly moving to ban her. I don't disagree with the decision to ban her at all, BUT if we're banning people immediately for despicable behavior, why has the hammer been so slow to fall on other posters (token, LHC, etc) who have said despicable things to people on our current board? (And I know that people will say the answer to that is that the others "didn't mean it that way" or whatever, but why did/do so many of us sit back and let it continue to happen for so long before speaking up? And why, when they are eventually confronted, do they get to say "I'll do better next time" over and over and over again without ever running out of chances? I don't know if I'm articulating myself well, and I HATE confrontation, but I hope that made sense.)
That's not entirely true. Knowledge of her criminal background was also passed on to the mods yesterday when this all first kicked off. I assume it's this, along with her multiple board identities with picture proof as well as the grief trolling and lies all together that resulted in her banning.
Has anyone been IP banned because of events from this past winter/spring? I thought there was just some voluntary leaving. I know V has come back under a new name, right? But booby is banned?
I will say re V and Token (who I think was also guilty right?) that in individual posts I didn't pick up on the racism. I thought the posts were obnoxious and rude but not racist. It wasn't until @kirkette and @246baje and a few others pointed out the pattern that I went back and looked at the totality of some of the posts and thought "omg, I completely missed that." Like the young philanthropist criticism from V just seemed like V being bitchy, which I often thought she was. It wasn't until I read it again after the smo incident that I realized what was going on. So I apologized at the time and I will say again that I am sorry for missing it.
That doesn't explain the lack of banning though.
Who are the guilty parties that are still around? Can we clean house for once and for all?
I'm not on here nearly as often as I used to. I didn't know that we had posters on this board who do this? Who are you referring to? I'd like to know so I can avoid their posts.
I'm talking about v, token, booby, and lhc.
Didn't they all pretty much flee the day everything went down?