Post by hbomdiggity on Sept 8, 2016 16:12:12 GMT -5
I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the mean girls side board, but this level of fuckedupness if just sick. TO EXCLUDE A WOC? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.
Is this mic on? @starry , were you a part of this shit, even after marching in a BLM protest? @mrswindycity, in addition to contributing Tami Taylor's real name for greater mocking, what else did you offer the group for shiggles?
Who else is trying to hide?
I promise I'm not ignoring the call out. I am doing daycare pickup and will answer more thoroughly. I was in meetings 2:30-4:45. Yes I was in the group.
Bad: At one point I mentioned Tami was trying to elect herself mod.
I defended Tami's post last week as well as told enviro she was being unfair to say the ethnic thread (which I never saw) was taken so far.
People in the group.... Everyone from the gtg plus Nata and sj.
When did I ever say I wanted to be a mod? I did say we needed a new one yes. Someone suggested me to which I replied that I would do it if no one else wanted to. Other people did and that was the end of that.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS FUCKED UP SINKING SHIP!
Post by longtimenopost on Sept 8, 2016 16:14:46 GMT -5
Also, at least own your shittiness. I did, and now I understand even more how hurtful I was in asking for the "benefit of the doubt." Because these women forever have to deal with bitches sweet talking them (even online, when why ?!) and taking about them behind their backs.
I have never seen such two faced pettiness, and I was president of a damned sorority. I'm so sorry @natariru.
Post by water*drop on Sept 8, 2016 16:18:19 GMT -5
I was in the group and was a coward. I spoke out sometimes, but not often enough, and I made things worse by not speaking out publicly to the group when I should have. I deserve every ounce of anger coming my way.
I was in the group and was a coward. I spoke out sometimes, but not often enough, and I made things worse by not speaking out publicly to the group when I should have. I deserve every ounce of anger coming my way.
Post by chickens987 on Sept 8, 2016 16:24:07 GMT -5
I was in the group. I have not participated since all of this went down, except as kristenbell said, to take exception to what I saw as Tami berating posters who were actively participating in race-related threads from also posting about other topics. I only saw the posts about Nata being removed after the fact and also regret that I did not speak up about it.
I did not want to sit back and not claim my role in this, as unintentional as it seemed to me.
I was in the group and was a coward. I spoke out sometimes, but not often enough, and I made things worse by not speaking out publicly to the group when I should have. I deserve every ounce of anger coming my way.
But you made it point to talk shit though.
I actually didn't? At least, I don't think I did. I spoke up in defense of a lot of the race posts, and I don't think I said anything bad about anybody. I asked about your friendship with nata because I was uncomfortable with the conversation about you. I was going to suggest that we tone the conversation down. I certainly did not ask for her to be removed. I SHOULD have just said that regardless of whether or not you had a friend in the group. Regardless, I own that I was part of the problem, and I don't expect anybody to forgive me for that.
I was in the group. I have not participated since all of this went down, except as kristenbell said, to take exception to what I saw as Tami berating posters who were actively participating in race-related threads from also posting about other topics. I only saw the posts about Nata being removed after the fact and also regret that I did not speak up about it.
I did not want to sit back and not claim my role in this, as unintentional as it seemed to me.
Yeah do you see why what you did was fucked up?
Because deleting nata was fucked up but wanting to "move on" from the racial threads was ALSO fucked up.
So nope not exonerated.
Here's your FUCK YOU!
Absolutely I see.
Eta: I didn't want to move on and I don't want you to think that was the case. I didn't start any posts not respond to anything besides support for people going through bad times. But I also felt badly that people felt uncomfortable posting those things.
So wait. Did people delete Nata from the group, and then add her back in? That seems stupid. Like really stupid.
Also why did people want to block Tami on FB? Did they think she was going to start blowing up their FB with links to here?
they were confirming that nata and TT were, in fact, facebook friends so they could justify deleting nata so she wouldn't run back to TT.
OR
because they're messy bitches.
your pick!
What's funny is that I don't give a good god damn if they were talking shit about me. I do give a shit they they're sharing my real name. They think they're more importantly than they really are.
I truly believe water*drop asked that question to point out that people were being unkind and would not be saying those things elsewhere so they shouldn't say them there. If you look at her posts here and every single post but that one there, she is consistently kind, supportive, thoughtful and action-oriented in terms of actually changing things and not just "listening and learning." She challenges people, and especially herself, to do better frequently. Everyone, including me, was complicit by not leaving immediately or asking sessalee to close the group, but water*drop is the least so.
Yeah, they needed to be able to block you from Facebook. The didn't know your real name, so @mrswindycity (who has now forever failed my screen test. I under no circumstances, want her or her family around mine) and another poster offered up your real first name at least, to help with their "Shame the ally" campaign.
WTF? I've been out of the house most of the afternoon for a drs visit for DS so I am still skimming through.
But what the ever loving eff is happening?
Removing WOC from group chats so you can talk about them? Changing the name of chat groups? Sharing personal information?
Fuck this noise. What are so many of you crazy people THINKING?SaveSave
I promise I'm not ignoring the call out. I am doing daycare pickup and will answer more thoroughly. I was in meetings 2:30-4:45. Yes I was in the group.
Bad: At one point I mentioned Tami was trying to elect herself mod.
I defended Tami's post last week as well as told enviro she was being unfair to say the ethnic thread (which I never saw) was taken so far.
People in the group.... Everyone from the gtg plus Nata and sj.
When did I ever say I wanted to be a mod? I did say we needed a new one yes. Someone suggested me to which I replied that I would do it if no one else wanted to. Other people did and that was the end of that.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS FUCKED UP SINKING SHIP!
I was in the group. I have not participated since all of this went down, except as kristenbell said, to take exception to what I saw as Tami berating posters who were actively participating in race-related threads from also posting about other topics. I only saw the posts about Nata being removed after the fact and also regret that I did not speak up about it.
I did not want to sit back and not claim my role in this, as unintentional as it seemed to me.
Yeah do you see why what you did was fucked up?
Because deleting nata was fucked up but wanting to "move on" from the racial threads was ALSO fucked up.
So nope not exonerated.
Here's your FUCK YOU!
you're handing them out like Halloween candy! Masterful shit right here.
I just have no words. This is just going from bad to worse.
The WOC on this board have poured their hearts out over and over and this is how they are thanked? This is gross and disgusting. I'm so sorry this is happening.
Post by awkwardpenguin on Sept 8, 2016 16:32:53 GMT -5
I was also in the chat. I can't access the archives, but I did comment a couple times about how the race discussion was being approached. Then I went to a few meetings and came back to over 100 notifications on my phone. I read it after the fact and was uncomfortable with what had happened but didn't leave the group. I should have spoken up multiple times things made me uncomfortable but I didn't. I am truly sorry for my role and not taking action to do better. I am sorry for hurting you @natariru.
My comment was taken out of context, I was replying to @sessalee's comment about the dumpster. I knew it was coming she was going to bring it up as we have had many PM conversations about it.
I haven't had a chance to reply earlier because I was at work.
TamiTaylor, I'm sorry for sharing your name, but I thought the whole group was friends with you already.