I mean....you all deleted Nata so you could talk shit about Tami without it getting back to Tami....and you talked shit about Tami posting on the board about race issues?
And people thought that was okay?!?!?
Look people. I'm as white as they come. My white privilege is strong and my bubble is thick. I'm working on it, but it's there.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW MESSED UP ALL OF THAT IS.
I was in the group. I have not participated since all of this went down, except as kristenbell said, to take exception to what I saw as Tami berating posters who were actively participating in race-related threads from also posting about other topics. I only saw the posts about Nata being removed after the fact and also regret that I did not speak up about it.
I did not want to sit back and not claim my role in this, as unintentional as it seemed to me.
Hos is this Lindsay chick not banned? I thought we were just going to get rid of the racists around here or are we allowing them to stay?
ooh ooh ooh. Someone has an opportunity to prove they were listening and learning this weekend!
No, banning racists ain't gonna work. It's up to THIS board and THESE women to make those kinds of comments and behaviors unwelcome. Just banning someone is like putting a damn bandaid on a much more serious issue.
I was in the group. I have not participated since all of this went down, except as kristenbell said, to take exception to what I saw as Tami berating posters who were actively participating in race-related threads from also posting about other topics. I only saw the posts about Nata being removed after the fact and also regret that I did not speak up about it.
I did not want to sit back and not claim my role in this, as unintentional as it seemed to me.
So, is that why you said that" TamiTaylor was BEC for you right now" right after matildasun called Tami a, "Fucking Bitch"? To add flames to the fire? Tell the truth and shame the devil, because you know all the WOC here have the receipts open in another tab.
matildasun, what state you in? They let your messy ass teach other people's children? Please tell me you only teach white kids, because, damn! I'd hate to think of the alternative if you cool with shaming allies trying to create safe spaces.
BEC = anything she does would annoy me. Has nothing to do with that particular post.
ooh ooh ooh. Someone has an opportunity to prove they were listening and learning this weekend!
No, banning racists ain't gonna work. It's up to THIS board and THESE women to make those kinds of comments and behaviors unwelcome. Just banning someone is like putting a damn bandaid on a much more serious issue.
And thank god we all understand this now, because I'm sorry, but I really can't be responsible for moderating what people do on some other random chat board.
My powers have limits. Now the power of the community as a whole to shun people who don't share our values... limitless.
Who else knew about this and were bystanders? I really want to know as I have been physically sick end by this all morning. @starry were you a part of this mess? sjSJ , in the name of all things holy and 10 years of friendship, please tell me someone else spells their name the same way? @mrswindycity ... WTF?
@sessalee and lindsaymg , you seem to stay ratchet as all hell, so I'm frankly not surprised by the riffraff behaviors on you end. Those who don't, won't and all that jazz. Par for the course. Why don't you go take a seat net to @this v and @booby
Everyone else wrapped up in today's glaring shitshow against @natariru TamiTaylor , and all GBCNers of color, really, when you teach your kids about race, I hope you are honest and include the epic times, in 2016, where you clearly knew better, yet happily let your racist ass show to the world, as you mocked and were irritated by a true ally, and treated people of color with the utmost distain and disregard. That is your true color ... Racist white (and maybe even passing for white) bitches behaving badly. How low and vile?
I hate using this term, but I'll do it anyway. You participating MMM Gossip Train Free for Police Forum posters the worst form of trash I've ever encountered, in my life. And that's saying a lot, as I've been called a Nigger straight to my face.
Best wishes with your bad assed children, glaring food issues, and good for nothing husbands. However, if you see me anywhere online or IRL, since we travel so much, do not acknowledge my existence. You are the company you keep, and I want none of your racist assed foolishness.
OMG LOL. I'm on my phone, so can't bold. But please sfy can you add the appropriate gif to the last ending part above. "Best wishes with your bad ass children"
No, banning racists ain't gonna work. It's up to THIS board and THESE women to make those kinds of comments and behaviors unwelcome. Just banning someone is like putting a damn bandaid on a much more serious issue.
Thank you for explaining. I am just tired of all of this.
Same here. But, unfortunately, just banning folks really isn't going to change anything.
I was in the group. I have not participated since all of this went down, except as kristenbell said, to take exception to what I saw as Tami berating posters who were actively participating in race-related threads from also posting about other topics. I only saw the posts about Nata being removed after the fact and also regret that I did not speak up about it.
I did not want to sit back and not claim my role in this, as unintentional as it seemed to me.
So, is that why you said that" TamiTaylor  was BEC for you right now" right after matildasun called Tami a, "Fucking Bitch"? To add flames to the fire? Tell the truth and shame the devil, because you know all the WOC here have the receipts open in another tab.
matildasun, what state you in? They let your messy ass teach other people's children? Please tell me you only teach white kids, because, damn! I'd hate to think of the alternative if you cool with shaming allies trying to create safe spaces.Â
Two more people too dumb to remove from FB first. Am I BEC with you because I made you uncomfortable? Is that it @chickens758? @malitdasun, are you supposed to be some hippie dippe hug a tree bitch? Not very peaceful of you.
So, is that why you said that" TamiTaylor  was BEC for you right now" right after matildasun called Tami a, "Fucking Bitch"? To add flames to the fire? Tell the truth and shame the devil, because you know all the WOC here have the receipts open in another tab.
matildasun, what state you in? They let your messy ass teach other people's children? Please tell me you only teach white kids, because, damn! I'd hate to think of the alternative if you cool with shaming allies trying to create safe spaces.Â
BEC = anything she does would annoy me. Has nothing to do with that particular post.
Seriously what crawled up your ass about me? Yet you have never removed me from FB or IG. I have never been anything but nice to you. Oh well, your loss.
No, banning racists ain't gonna work. It's up to THIS board and THESE women to make those kinds of comments and behaviors unwelcome. Just banning someone is like putting a damn bandaid on a much more serious issue.
And thank god we all understand this now, because I'm sorry, but I really can't be responsible for moderating what people do on some other random chat board.
My powers have limits. Now the power of the community as a whole to shun people who don't share our values... limitless.
Post by pizzapizza on Sept 8, 2016 16:44:28 GMT -5
This is so FUCKING gross. So many people called it that the collective WE could not do better. I am naive as shit as I really believed it. You all were right. God forbid we collectively reflect on being racist assholes for awhile and 'listen and learn'. Nope let's talk shit about other people and complain that we don't like the tactics used. It comes back to I want to continue in my bubble so I can talk about all the basic bitch shit. Poor me I have to think how what I say may hurt POC, wah wah wah that is just too much EFFORT.
Post by matildasun on Sept 8, 2016 16:44:34 GMT -5
I did call her a fucking bitch. She has always rubbed me the wrong way. It was a hasty reaction. I did also go on to say that if it had been anyone else I would have agreed with their methods.
Post by oliviapope on Sept 8, 2016 16:47:10 GMT -5
I am fucking heated at all the people criticizing Tami's methods of getting the board to get their shit together while offering nothing in terms of solutions for the racist bullshit going on over here. Oh she made you uncomfortable? Welcome to a tiny taste of what it's like to be a person of color. JFC, you people suck.
"If you have a critique for the resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do."
Post by teatimefor2 on Sept 8, 2016 16:48:12 GMT -5
I don't even know what to say anymore. I am so disgusted with so many posters of this board. This environment has become so toxic.
For years this board has been a wonderful resource for me personally and I felt better for being a member of our virtual community. The comments, posts and actions of this virtual community lately have ashamed me and make me want to post even less.
I don't know what to say anymore. Obliviously, people are NOT listening and learning. For that and so many things, I am just sorry. This community saddens me now.
oh word? This is Joanne the Scammer level boldness. Lmao.
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he is the embodiment of this entire board. New (or fake) money, delusional, raggedy, petty, and shameless. I actually might make this my new home base!
FOR THE RECORD, I'm not shocked about people talking shit off boards. EVERYONE DOES THAT. I've done it about plenty of you b/c some of you are some annoying ass bitches.
But to straight up remove a WOC from that group so you can go on with your bad selves complaining about you can't post your "fluff" on the board b/c of all the racist shit going down is a whole other level of bullshit.
I don't believe for ONE SECOND that I was removed from the group bc you thought I was going to tell Tami. You removed me bc I'm the loud mouth brown girl.
Like telling Tami is the WORST thing ever. Tami isn't your Mom. You are a grown up. If Tami pissed you off, talk to Tami about it?? No one takes a stand like Tami did and expects to NOT piss some people off. What is Tami going to do? Take away your screentime privleges?? Send you to your room without dessert?!
We aren't in third grade??
This isn't about Tami, it's about being afraid of natariru as a WOC & being snarky racist bitches.
Since I seem to be singled out and many posters were excluded from this call out, I will be the one to speak out here.
It was a group started for easy comms while we were in Chicago, the name is easily changed. I never changed the name.
I freely admit I think TamiTaylor's posts on every thread made me CRAZY. While I did not change the name of the group but I do think she was being the board police and I did not agree with her methods. I don't feel like you can force these conversations if people don't want to have them.
I DID speak up when Natariru was removed by someone other than me. It was pretty clear how I felt about it. Several people did and she was re-added within 10 min based on the general feedback of myself and other contributors.
Other than that the group just talked about other things in their lives outside the race conversations during the time of silence on other topics on this board.
Post by belovedbride07 on Sept 8, 2016 17:12:33 GMT -5
I knew someone would make an ass of themselves before too long, but really, we couldn't hold it together for one frickin' week? And I know there's always bound to be off-board chat and gossip, but really, you went THERE? All while you were spouting empty "I'm sorry"s and "I'm listening and learning"s. This is some GD bullshit.
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FOR THE RECORD, I'm not shocked about people talking shit off boards. EVERYONE DOES THAT. I've done it about plenty of you b/c some of you are some annoying ass bitches.
But to straight up remove a WOC from that group so you can go on with your bad selves complaining about you can't post your "fluff" on the board b/c of all the racist shit going down is a whole other level of bullshit.
I don't believe for ONE SECOND that I was removed from the group bc you thought I was going to tell Tami. You removed me bc I'm the loud mouth brown girl.
Like telling Tami is the WORST thing ever. Tami isn't your Mom. You are a grown up. If Tami pissed you off, talk to Tami about it?? No one takes a stand like Tami did and expects to NOT piss some people off. What is Tami going to do? Take away your screentime privleges?? Send you to your room without dessert?!
We aren't in third grade??
This isn't about Tami, it's about being afraid of natariru as a WOC & being snarky racist bitches.
Truth. I don't care if you talk shit. I talked shit too sometimes too. I care that my private info was shared and the mocking of racial issues and the removal of @natariru.
Post by oregonpachey on Sept 8, 2016 17:15:37 GMT -5
I am always surprised that stuff like this happens (I am naive clearly) but even more, I am really grossed out by the actions of many people on this board lately. I don't post frequently, and probably will post even less frequently because acting like adults is hard for some of you. @savestheday , third graders act better than this. My first grader knows better.
@natariru @kirkette , I am sorry that you continue to have to deal with this. It's gross behavior.
Post by tellmesomethingood on Sept 8, 2016 17:15:50 GMT -5
You know what's super gross? These people are raising kids. This is exactly why it's 2016 and we still have this vile shit going on. Two thousand and fucking sixteen.
As someone said up thread, I acknowledge my ridiculous privilege as a white woman of means. I have a thick bubble and I'm working on it quietly because absolutely no one owes me any acknowledgement for striving to, you know, NOT BE AN ASSHOLE. I haven't posted an apology or what not because the LAST thing the awesome WOC in this board need is a simpering apology and empty pledge to do better. I'm obligated, AS A FUCKING HUMAN BEING, to do better because I SHOULD, not because I think I should and want the hair pats. And god damn it-- now I've made it about me. Classic *racist behavior.
This :::waves hands::: IS WHAT BEING AN ASSHOLE LOOKS LIKE. From changing the group name to cutting someone out because, "oops, they might find out we're talking about them." ESPECIALLY when what you're saying has to do with race and @natariru was removed from it because she's a WOC. It's not even about the fact that you got caught-- it's the fact they YOU DID IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! WHAT?
ETA: *denotes where I initally typed facist instead of the intended racist