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[bimbi284]

Sept 11, 2016 9:41:51 GMT -5 @natariru said:

Sept 11, 2016 9:18:39 GMT -5 @246baje said:

There's a story in Jamaica about two white Jamaican girls going to school in the US in the 1970s and being introduced at an assembly as the "first students of colour" much to their shock.

I know in Barbados for sure "white Bajan" includes many who would be considered "other" elsewhere. "White Bajan" is also a culture and a lifestyle accompanied by a distinctive accent.

I love when people are like "Oh yeah, you look Brazilian". WTF does that even mean? Brazil is a huge country with lots of pockets of different mixes. I wish I had a picture with all of my cousins from both sides. 

And then I get the, but you don't LOOK Puerto Rican!!!
Depending on my mood, I'll either say: "we come in all shapes, colors, and sizes."
Or: ok, so what do I LOOK like to you?!

Once someone told me, well you DO look like something, but like idk what. (aka you don't look like US, but my worldview is too small to know wtf you are).

[EnchantedSoul]

Sept 11, 2016 9:50:24 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Sept 11, 2016 9:30:43 GMT -5 EnchantedSoul said:

The shit that's going down over there is very similar to what went down on April for us. I've been liking most of what 05heel and sfy have been saying and nodding in agreement. I knew from jump that these folks would never be my friends. But every time something significant would happen and we would express concern about our fellow persons of color or our own children, husbands, brothers we would be met with crickets. Or another Janie and Jack thread that would have three or four pages and essentially no one could give a shit whether or not we were hurting inside. The lack of basic fucking decency toward us rang loud and clear.

I don't post a lot, especially now but I find it fucking rich that those heifers are over there talking about how they need to do better. POC don't fucking have to be told how to be decent to fellow humans. Furthermore, they only feel the need to do better because some other white people told them so.

I'm glad you guys spoke up but since I don't post there I figure I'd just leave them to their own devices. I'm sorry WOC were hurt (again) but know that you guys have support in us.

That's funny that it happened on April 2012 and Tamb is acting all brand new.

I used to post on that board when I got pregnant but quickly left. I remember pennypenny was a popular WOC there but I don't know if she still posts.

All of this has really driven home to me that my children are going home every summer once they can travel unaccompanied and no longer need bulky car seats. It was the plan before to become immersed in our culture but I also want them to know the feeling of looking around and being surrounded by black folks thriving.

I had an AA bf in undergrad and I remember him marveling at all the black folks running shit like the university, the hospitals hell the country and being so thrilled. I really didn't get it. I do now and I want that for my kids.

I remember you being there. I was kasper923. PennyPenny left a long time ago and did not make the trip over here. skwcm80 and I were really the only regular AA posters who stuck it out. There were a couple others who popped in occasionally.

Yeah, the shit hit the proverbial fan when Stellas tried to creep onto the board but we'd been having issues long before that. Same shit, no one wants to get involved in serious threads. "I come here to talk about baby clothes" but you have people legitimately concerned about the safety of their loved ones and you can't be bothered to say ANYTHING. Doesn't affect them, therefore it doesn't matter. You see how many pages that MMM thread has, it was linked on April. You see how many people showed up to claim their role in doing the exact same shit. Whatever.

ETA PennyPenny is still here. MoneyPenny is not.

[DesertMoon]

Sept 11, 2016 10:37:44 GMT -5 EnchantedSoul said:

Sept 11, 2016 9:50:24 GMT -5 @246baje said:

That's funny that it happened on April 2012 and Tamb is acting all brand new.

I used to post on that board when I got pregnant but quickly left. I remember pennypenny was a popular WOC there but I don't know if she still posts.

All of this has really driven home to me that my children are going home every summer once they can travel unaccompanied and no longer need bulky car seats. It was the plan before to become immersed in our culture but I also want them to know the feeling of looking around and being surrounded by black folks thriving.

I had an AA bf in undergrad and I remember him marveling at all the black folks running shit like the university, the hospitals hell the country and being so thrilled. I really didn't get it. I do now and I want that for my kids.

I remember you being there. I was kasper923. PennyPenny left a long time ago and did not make the trip over here. skwcm80 and I were really the only regular AA posters who stuck it out. There were a couple others who popped in occasionally.

Yeah, the shit hit the proverbial fan when Stellas tried to creep onto the board but we'd been having issues long before that. Same shit, no one wants to get involved in serious threads. "I come here to talk about baby clothes" but you have people legitimately concerned about the safety of their loved ones and you can't be bothered to say ANYTHING. Doesn't affect them, therefore it doesn't matter. You see how many pages that MMM thread has, it was linked on April. You see how many people showed up to claim their role in doing the exact same shit. Whatever.

I haven't been there as much either because I would try to discuss the sorrow for my family in Iraq and my aunt who went missing and my trials of being my uncle to Canada and I didn't feel very strong support, I felt like I was almost idk, "disturbing the board" they tried to be comforting, but idk it rubbed me oddly. main reason I moved to CEP. When I went there I immediately got so much assistance and suggestions of ways to help my uncle and others who were doing the same.

Hugs to you guys.

[skwcm80]

@246baje I was telling EnchantedSoul that I was bummed when you stopped posting on April. You must have sensed the bullshit a lot sooner than we did.

Looking back on the Stellas thread and spillover from the booby nonsense, I'm mostly pissed that at myself that I let my feelings be so hurt. It was made clear time and time again that majority of the board doesnt give a shit about our concerns, and would express concern just to get us to shut up. At least enchanted soul was better able to see through the bs and call them out when I was all in my feelings about it.

[borinquen57]

Sept 11, 2016 10:26:20 GMT -5 bimbi284 said:

Sept 11, 2016 9:41:51 GMT -5 @natariru said:

I love when people are like "Oh yeah, you look Brazilian". WTF does that even mean? Brazil is a huge country with lots of pockets of different mixes. I wish I had a picture with all of my cousins from both sides. 

And then I get the, but you don't LOOK Puerto Rican!!!
Depending on my mood, I'll either say: "we come in all shapes, colors, and sizes."
Or: ok, so what do I LOOK like to you?!

Once someone told me, well you DO look like something, but like idk what. (aka you don't look like US, but my worldview is too small to know wtf you are).

I get the "You don't look Puerto Rican" comments too but it's especially infuriating when it comes from PRs who should technically know better.

[newnamesameperson]

Sept 11, 2016 12:42:59 GMT -5 capscapscaps said:

Sept 10, 2016 20:12:39 GMT -5 newnamesameperson said:

I gave up on it. I don't care anymore. I'm not here to educate grown people how to not act like fools. I've seen so many eloquent and kind responses by the women on this board be met with fluff. Yep, go ahead and check in saying you're absorbing but are you really? Or is it because you're scared of a call out from a damn internet board?!

Who are you? Not in the *hairflip and scowl* kind of way but in the *no really do I know you?* way.

I don't think so. I posted in mm moms and randomly in married life.

[Queen Mamadala]

Sept 11, 2016 7:02:26 GMT -5 socratic said:

05heel sfy

Seriously the two of you have blown me away. For the past several weeks/months I have been struggling with some relationships I have with white women and in my head I knew it stems from a shift in my behaviour and character where I am less willing to buy into the colour blindness nonsense. And it makes them uncomfortable. But what you both have said about fundamentally not being able to trust white women is hitting me hard. I have several white friends that I love but you know we have never had a conversation about race deeper than seeing them share black lives matter posts.

Anyway that was probably a bunch of confusion but the gist of it is I just wanted to say thank you for the clarity.

What some of the WOC have expressed here about not trusting white women reminded me of the times my mom told me she gets uncomfortable around white women, especially groups of white women. She's super introverted as it is, but white women give her anxiety, due to the shit she's dealt with over the years. She said it was eye-opening moving from So Cal, where the majority of her co-workers were white with white bosses, to Atlanta with several other Black women co-workers. And her boss is Black. Her two BFFs are Black. She still maintains that making friends is difficult because she rarely feels comfortable in groups with white folks. That even the white women married to Black men don't get it. I know she loves her SILs, but even they don't always get it. They really don't. 

I've attempted to make friends with white women IRL, before getting to see their true selves, and knew right quick it was a mistake. As usual, they'd show their foolish ass when they thought they were in like company (military wives, especially).  So... nope. I already like people in small doses. The good thing about meeting friends online is the ability to vet them. But yeah, UMC white women, of the liberal variety, make me nervous and anxious. The TB/GBCN really exposed me to the classism and racism of elite, high brow, white folks.

One of my friends that I met on a milspouse forum that split mentioned getting a lot of shit from other milwives who sought to tear her down because how could a Black woman be married to a doctor, a Black doctor. And this was when they were stationed in San Diego. Black women doing well for themselves is a sure threat to a whole lot of white women. It doesn't validate the narrative they've crafted in their head. That isn't how WOC are supposed to be. They're not supposed to be successful. They're not supposed to have what white folks have.  

[05heel]

Sept 11, 2016 15:20:24 GMT -5 @kirkette said:

Sept 11, 2016 10:31:00 GMT -5 cubed said:

I can speak from experience and it is just a different level of hard. I've been told by my own people I am not Filipino enough (yet I can still speak two dialects fluently). I've grown up being told I am not Asian because I am brown. I have been told by white people I was scary in HS because I wore baggy clothes and "talked ghetto." It fucks with your identity so much. When I hit college, I had no idea where I belonged. I even started a chapter of a Latina sorority with a few others who felt the same way I did, usually first generation ladies who were "not claimed" by any one group in particular. One of my best friends now is Trinidadian but is ethnically Indian. She tried to join an Indian meet up group in our city and was told she couldn't because she doesn't count. It's fucking ridiculous out there.

So much of this hits home to me. Trying to navigate a young life as a first generation immigrant with a bunch of competing influences, was crazy. I mainly said, fuck hanging out with girls, and hung out primarily with nerdy white guys since I was in Kindergarten. Because my parents were genuinely well loved in the community, I had a bunch of forced friendships in the popular white girls group. They "loved" me. I couldn't stand their spoiled behaviour, and only truly liked about 2 of them. I hated the entitlement so much, that I flat out refused to go to on to our private prep school for high school.
In high school, along with my close circle of, nerdy white boys, I found an amazing group of other various 1st generation girls, with like 3 white girls,and we've been together for 20 years. Maybe I was lucky to go to that highschool, but everyone got along because we had many similar experiences. It was a diverse place racially, but not really diverse at all in terms of income, religion, and expectations from our parents.

Due to the structure of my high school's GATE program, I didn't have close black friends until college and grad school, because they weren't around before then.
Sorority wise, the NPHC members were kind, but not interested in me, so I wound up being president of the Jewish sorority (which was filled with Black, Latina, and Asian-Pacific Islanders, first generation immigrants, and a few white girls who didn't fit in anywhere else).
I was given a bid by the extremely spoiled white girl sorority, but I knew better than to accept that shit. So, they attempted (yet failed, bitches) to make my life hell.
It's the same pattern of conflict over and over again. So, all of this wasn't new to me at all. I just thought people would grow the fuck up, and act like decent adults.

I think this is interesting, especially considering the conversations on the boards disparaging women who prefer hanging out with men. I may have contributed to them, even. I've learned however that this is definitely a white feminist trope. Like, "who wouldn't love us? Must be something wrong with her." Fascinating.

[05heel]

Sept 11, 2016 16:52:38 GMT -5 @natariru said:

05heel I have found that adult white women turn especially vile when their "friendship" is rejected. I've had it happen twice IRL as a grown woman. Like being let in to their circle is some sort of privilege and how dare I turn it down.

In one case, her husband tried to keep my H as a friend. My H had drinks with him, she showed up, & tried to shit talk about me to MY HUSBAND. Like "we would still love your friendship if we could keep it separate". People are fucking insane.

My H obviously shut it down. He's still alive

daaammmnnn! That is nuts. Not surprising to hear, but still nuts. I think on some level I couldn't relate to the conversations here either because I've never really had white friends. The whole exchange was so foreign to me that I guess I just took what they were saying at face value.

[05heel]

Sept 11, 2016 17:06:46 GMT -5 @natariru said:

Sept 11, 2016 17:03:28 GMT -5 05heel said:

daaammmnnn! That is nuts. Not surprising to hear, but still nuts. I think on some level I couldn't relate to the conversations here either because I've never really had white friends. The whole exchange was so foreign to me that I guess I just took what they were saying at face value.

My parents sent to me to an all girls HS where there were 8 WOC per grade. AND I was a scholarship kid. Who lived in Newark and took the train to school. It was an interesting experience to say the least. I wish I could go back in time and tell 13 yr old me that I didn't need friends like that.

I have a handful of white acquaintances. I have 2 white friends I feel I could call if I needed to.

just reading that makes my blood run cold. Lol. I don't know what I would do. I grew up in a majority white, highly segregated area. The only positive was that everyone was pretty poor, so that leveled the playing field a great deal. The racism was of the pretty wide-open, N-word variety. Nothing subtle about it at all. It's just interesting how varied, yet similar, our experiences have been.

[EnchantedSoul]

Sept 11, 2016 17:06:46 GMT -5 @natariru said:

Sept 11, 2016 17:03:28 GMT -5 05heel said:

daaammmnnn! That is nuts. Not surprising to hear, but still nuts. I think on some level I couldn't relate to the conversations here either because I've never really had white friends. The whole exchange was so foreign to me that I guess I just took what they were saying at face value.

My parents sent to me to an all girls HS where there were 8 WOC per grade. AND I was a scholarship kid. Who lived in Newark and took the train to school. It was an interesting experience to say the least. I wish I could go back in time and tell 13 yr old me that I didn't need friends like that.

I have a handful of white acquaintances. I have 2 white friends I feel I could call if I needed to.

I also went to an all girl's HS. I believe by the time we graduated, only 2 WOC walked. The other two had gotten pregnant and in Catholic school, you can't walk with your class (whole different set of issues). I'm used to being one of the only minorities. At school, at work, church etc. I did grow up in the city so was surrounded by mostly other black families but going to school was a whole different world. There aren't a whole lot of black Catholics running around.

[skwcm80]

Sept 11, 2016 18:59:05 GMT -5 skwcm80 said:

Sept 11, 2016 18:01:55 GMT -5 @natariru said:

My mother only stopped yelling about bootstraps this year when I had a full blown panic attack in front of her while holding J and trying to feed S.

I'm tearing up just thinking about it. Being a child of immigrant parents in this country is not easy.

Truer words,(wo) man.

[fbf2006]

Sept 11, 2016 20:39:35 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Sept 11, 2016 18:01:55 GMT -5 @natariru said:

My mother only stopped yelling about bootstraps this year when I had a full blown panic attack in front of her while holding J and trying to feed S.

I'm tearing up just thinking about it. Being a child of immigrant parents in this country is not easy.

Damn as an immigrant whose children are 1st generation Americans this hits home.

I won't put them in the insanely expensive private school that I like 1. Because it is $40k+ a year for 2 kids in the junior school and more for the older grades.

2. Because they don't need to be the onlies


Where I live is not majority black but the schools are only 60% white and getting browner.

I keep tryng to tell this to my husband. I'm always like DS can't be the only black kid in 'whatever fancy prep school' he's thinking of that day. And he just says DS will be fine...bla bla bla.

[liveintheville]

Can I join the board? I'm an immigrant from Vietnam. I came over via Baby Airlift when they were trying to clear everyone from the country after the war.
I was adopted by a Caucasian family when I was 2 months old. This has led to some confusion on mu part as to where I belong. My parents tried their best to culture me in Vietnamese. But it was the 70's and they just didn't know where to start and these types of adoption weren't as common.
I've been called a banana and many similar names. I'm trying to stress to my children that they are half Vietnamese. But they don't really "get" it. Most of their friends are asian or Brazilian. They know nothing about differences in race and I'm not sure if I should press the issue or let them be for now. 
Any advice?

[itsme]

Sept 11, 2016 10:26:20 GMT -5 bimbi284 said:

Sept 11, 2016 9:41:51 GMT -5 @natariru said:

I love when people are like "Oh yeah, you look Brazilian". WTF does that even mean? Brazil is a huge country with lots of pockets of different mixes. I wish I had a picture with all of my cousins from both sides. 

And then I get the, but you don't LOOK Puerto Rican!!!
Depending on my mood, I'll either say: "we come in all shapes, colors, and sizes."
Or: ok, so what do I LOOK like to you?!

Once someone told me, well you DO look like something, but like idk what. (aka you don't look like US, but my worldview is too small to know wtf you are).

Same, same. 

[sfy]

Sept 12, 2016 12:03:54 GMT -5 liveintheville said:

Can I join the board? I'm an immigrant from Vietnam. I came over via Baby Airlift when they were trying to clear everyone from the country after the war.
I was adopted by a Caucasian family when I was 2 months old. This has led to some confusion on mu part as to where I belong. My parents tried their best to culture me in Vietnamese. But it was the 70's and they just didn't know where to start and these types of adoption weren't as common.
I've been called a banana and many similar names. I'm trying to stress to my children that they are half Vietnamese. But they don't really "get" it. Most of their friends are asian or Brazilian. They know nothing about differences in race and I'm not sure if I should press the issue or let them be for now. 
Any advice?

The only thing I have to offer is that I think there are ways to talk to your children and what they are without talking to them about differences in race. That said, I don't see anything wrong with talking to them about people being different races and ethnicities. If you're explaining to them that we're not all the same and that's okay, and there's value in all cultures, I think that's a great foundation to have. But growing up, I was taught quite a bit about my own culture, heritage and ethnicity, and generally, I didn't think about it relative to anyone else. It was just another thing that made me awesome.

[sfy]

Sept 12, 2016 11:03:25 GMT -5 fbf2006 said:

Sept 11, 2016 20:39:35 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Damn as an immigrant whose children are 1st generation Americans this hits home.

I won't put them in the insanely expensive private school that I like 1. Because it is $40k+ a year for 2 kids in the junior school and more for the older grades.

2. Because they don't need to be the onlies


Where I live is not majority black but the schools are only 60% white and getting browner.

I keep tryng to tell this to my husband. I'm always like DS can't be the only black kid in 'whatever fancy prep school' he's thinking of that day. And he just says DS will be fine...bla bla bla.

For one school year, DS was the only child in his class who was black. I would never do that again in life. I only did it that year because where we lived, I had no choice. But I made sure we moved before the next school year started.

[raangoli]

Sept 12, 2016 12:03:54 GMT -5 liveintheville said:

Can I join the board? I'm an immigrant from Vietnam. I came over via Baby Airlift when they were trying to clear everyone from the country after the war.
I was adopted by a Caucasian family when I was 2 months old. This has led to some confusion on mu part as to where I belong. My parents tried their best to culture me in Vietnamese. But it was the 70's and they just didn't know where to start and these types of adoption weren't as common.
I've been called a banana and many similar names. I'm trying to stress to my children that they are half Vietnamese. But they don't really "get" it. Most of their friends are asian or Brazilian. They know nothing about differences in race and I'm not sure if I should press the issue or let them be for now. 
Any advice?

I posted a thread last week about fighting the "bubble" on how to help teach my baby (as she gets older) that there are differences between people, and like sfy said, that's OK and that is part of what makes us who we are. I'm mostly confident on teaching her my culture and heritage, but it was making sure she gets a well rounded cultural education that matters as well. Many posters were very helpful in how to approach it, so maybe it will be helpful to you?

I felt a little foolish asking to be honest, but I want to make sure I go about it the best way possible.


pandce.proboards.com/thread/550890/fighting-bubble

[Black Lavender]

The current threads on MMM seriously have me questioning relationships I have with my white friends. I've been writing and deleting all of my responses to the newest bullshit thread, but I'm going to say that I feel like the many white people think like her (the OP)...like it's all good as long as we stay in "our lane" but as soon as we step outside of that or say or do something that you don't think is cool, then it's a problem (ie Colin Kaep). Then you get called out on the BS & you try to apologize...fuck you and your wack ass apologies. You're not sorry, you didn't learn shit, and you ain't shit. Now I need to really figure out who I know that's still hanging in that racist closet.

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[andwhat]

Sept 13, 2016 21:43:18 GMT -5 Black Lavender said:

The current threads on MMM seriously have me questioning relationships I have with my white friends. I've been writing and deleting all of my responses to the newest bullshit thread, but I'm going to say that I feel like the many white people think like her (the OP)...like it's all good as long as we stay in "our lane" but as soon as we step outside of that or say or do something that you don't think is cool, then it's a problem (ie Colin Kaep). Then you get called out on the BS & you try to apologize...fuck you and your wack ass apologies. You're not sorry, you didn't learn shit, and you ain't shit. Now I need to really figure out who I know that's still hanging in that racist closet.

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I feel this way too. I don't have many white friends, but I will say the ones I do have we very rarely have deep conversations about race. That is more because I haven't been able to hang around friends much the last 2 years due to my work schedule. But I know my closest white friend did not give me any shade when I was having issues at work and felt they were race related, she did not question and actually agreed. She even tried to push me to contact a lawyer. So in that aspect she "got it."

[kicks]

Sept 14, 2016 6:45:15 GMT -5 andwhat said:

Sept 13, 2016 21:43:18 GMT -5 Black Lavender said:

The current threads on MMM seriously have me questioning relationships I have with my white friends. I've been writing and deleting all of my responses to the newest bullshit thread, but I'm going to say that I feel like the many white people think like her (the OP)...like it's all good as long as we stay in "our lane" but as soon as we step outside of that or say or do something that you don't think is cool, then it's a problem (ie Colin Kaep). Then you get called out on the BS & you try to apologize...fuck you and your wack ass apologies. You're not sorry, you didn't learn shit, and you ain't shit. Now I need to really figure out who I know that's still hanging in that racist closet.

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I feel this way too. I don't have many white friends, but I will say the ones I do have we very rarely have deep conversations about race. That is more because I haven't been able to hang around friends much the last 2 years due to my work schedule. But I know my closest white friend did not give me any shade when I was having issues at work and felt they were race related, she did not question and actually agreed. She even tried to push me to contact a lawyer. So in that aspect she "got it."

Yeah my best friend is actually white. I think she gets it but of course you never know.

I have 1 other close white female friend that I met while living in S Africa and she seems cool. This weekend I met up with her in NYC. She had already had a brunch scheduled with her roommate and her roommates whites friends, so she invited me along. I felt really uncomfortable because she had previously told me that her roommate didn't want to hang out in Harlem. Big wtf.

I can't handle groups of white people anymore.

[DesertMoon]

Sept 14, 2016 6:55:40 GMT -5 kicks said:

Sept 14, 2016 6:45:15 GMT -5 andwhat said:

I feel this way too. I don't have many white friends, but I will say the ones I do have we very rarely have deep conversations about race. That is more because I haven't been able to hang around friends much the last 2 years due to my work schedule. But I know my closest white friend did not give me any shade when I was having issues at work and felt they were race related, she did not question and actually agreed. She even tried to push me to contact a lawyer. So in that aspect she "got it."

Yeah my best friend is actually white. I think she gets it but of course you never know.

I have 1 other close white female friend that I met while living in S Africa and she seems cool. This weekend I met up with her in NYC. She had already had a brunch scheduled with her roommate and her roommates whites friends, so she invited me along. I felt really uncomfortable because she had previously told me that her roommate didn't want to hang out in Harlem. Big wtf.

I can't handle groups of white people anymore.

One of my besties is white too and I know she gets it because someone called me her "Indian friend" and she started dropping knowledge and dropping bows. She started with a geography lesson and moved on to why saying Indian friend is offensive in a different spectrum of ways. However if one more white person says, "oh you're middle eastern? Why don't you cover your hair" I'm going to just smother them.

[DesertMoon]

Sept 14, 2016 9:34:09 GMT -5 cubed said:

Man, all of the threads had me reflecting and I honestly can't name a close white friend in my current city. I developed some good "mom" friends when I SAH with DS1 but even then, I was hesitant to hang out with them too much outside of our "mom" activities. They were really sincere and really nice, but I purposely kept things light and avoided Bachelor viewings and all that jazz. The two who I consider somewhat close live across the country or way north of me and we rarely see each other. They were from childhood/high school.

Dude it is so hard to make friends as an adult.

[persa]

Sept 14, 2016 9:34:09 GMT -5 cubed said:

Man, all of the threads had me reflecting and I honestly can't name a close white friend in my current city. I developed some good "mom" friends when I SAH with DS1 but even then, I was hesitant to hang out with them too much outside of our "mom" activities. They were really sincere and really nice, but I purposely kept things light and avoided Bachelor viewings and all that jazz. The two who I consider somewhat close live across the country or way north of me and we rarely see each other. They were from childhood/high school.

I have the opposite problem. My current city is SO white that I don't have a lot of WOC friends here. When I was in my graduate training in another, more diverse city, we had 5 of us that were super tight: 3 black girls, me (Iranian) and a half Vietnamese/half white girl. And I've lost all of that diversity since I moved and it bums me out.

[persa]

Sept 14, 2016 10:10:27 GMT -5 cubed said:

persa , the only reason why I have so many WOC nearby is b/c we are in a pretty diverse city. We used to live in Tampa and I had a few WOC friends there, most of whom ended up moving away before we did.

That's awesome that your city is diverse. My in-laws live in Tarpon Springs and it's white as fuck. 

My neighborhood is white as fuck too. I almost stopped in my tracks when I saw that DD has two black girls in her class. She's never been in a class with black kids and she's almost 6. It's pretty sad. 

[persa]

ok, so I'm sure I'm coming at this late and it's been discussed already but I get so pissy whenever I see the new Pokemon post on ML and in the first post, Miso says something about the person who started the original Pokemon thread was "run off". I missed a lot of the backstory because I'm not super active on GBCN except the makeup board but I kind of gleaned the backstory about supergreen. So no, she wasn't "run off "like she was some poor innocent persecuted in a witch hunt. Blech.

[sfy]

Sept 14, 2016 21:08:53 GMT -5 persa said:

ok, so I'm sure I'm coming at this late and it's been discussed already but I get so pissy whenever I see the new Pokemon post on ML and in the first post, Miso says something about the person who started the original Pokemon thread was "run off". I missed a lot of the backstory because I'm not super active on GBCN except the makeup board but I kind of gleaned the backstory about supergreen. So no, she wasn't "run off "like she was some poor innocent persecuted in a witch hunt. Blech.

My eyeroll just gave me a headache.  I hate when that happens.
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[05heel]

Sept 14, 2016 21:08:53 GMT -5 persa said:

ok, so I'm sure I'm coming at this late and it's been discussed already but I get so pissy whenever I see the new Pokemon post on ML and in the first post, Miso says something about the person who started the original Pokemon thread was "run off". I missed a lot of the backstory because I'm not super active on GBCN except the makeup board but I kind of gleaned the backstory about supergreen. So no, she wasn't "run off "like she was some poor innocent persecuted in a witch hunt. Blech.

I find her problematic in general, and especially in those MMM threads.  I don't care who disagrees.  Lol.

[kicks]

Sept 15, 2016 8:53:12 GMT -5 05heel said:

Sept 14, 2016 21:08:53 GMT -5 persa said:

ok, so I'm sure I'm coming at this late and it's been discussed already but I get so pissy whenever I see the new Pokemon post on ML and in the first post, Miso says something about the person who started the original Pokemon thread was "run off". I missed a lot of the backstory because I'm not super active on GBCN except the makeup board but I kind of gleaned the backstory about supergreen. So no, she wasn't "run off "like she was some poor innocent persecuted in a witch hunt. Blech.

I find her problematic in general, and especially in those MMM threads.  I don't care who disagrees.  Lol.

Lol yes!

[05heel]

Sept 15, 2016 9:08:29 GMT -5 @stilljustash said:

Sept 15, 2016 8:53:12 GMT -5 05heel said:

I find her problematic in general, and especially in those MMM threads.  I don't care who disagrees.  Lol.

you don't stand alone.

Interesting.  I wasn't sure if it was me being my generally irritable self or not.