Where do you think it should happen, then? Someone else's city, someone else's back yard?
It needs to happen here and everywhere but why does anyone think it is ok for protesting to mean destruction of any city? Why is it ok for people to come from all over the US and throw chairs through windows, loot stores and destroy property? I think you took my post the wrong way. I was out there during lunch and briefly after work surrounded by peaceful protest. Joining in and being apart of it all. That is the kind of protesting that should be happening in our cities. Instead people were shot and buildings destroyed and looted. How is this ok with anyone, black, white, yellow, orange or any color?
But peaceful protests haven't worked. Nothing has changed.
Post by W.T.Faulkner on Sept 22, 2016 9:52:30 GMT -5
I mean, if kneeling during the national anthem is such a flagrant display of disrespect that people can focus for weeks on it, with energy that simply disappeared when asked about Terrence Crutcher, then I understand the "fuck it" mentality here.
Why do black people need to play by the rules if white people don't and never have?
Where do you think it should happen, then? Someone else's city, someone else's back yard?
It needs to happen here and everywhere but why does anyone think it is ok for protesting to mean destruction of any city? Why is it ok for people to come from all over the US and throw chairs through windows, loot stores and destroy property? I think you took my post the wrong way. I was out there during lunch and briefly after work surrounded by peaceful protest. Joining in and being apart of it all. That is the kind of protesting that should be happening in our cities. Instead people were shot and buildings destroyed and looted. How is this ok with anyone, black, white, yellow, orange or any color?
Orange? Really? You missed green and blue. /s/
This kind of statement is belittling of people of color. WTF!? Save
It needs to happen here and everywhere but why does anyone think it is ok for protesting to mean destruction of any city? Why is it ok for people to come from all over the US and throw chairs through windows, loot stores and destroy property? I think you took my post the wrong way. I was out there during lunch and briefly after work surrounded by peaceful protest. Joining in and being apart of it all. That is the kind of protesting that should be happening in our cities. Instead people were shot and buildings destroyed and looted. How is this ok with anyone, black, white, yellow, orange or any color?
Because people are angry in a way that you will literally never be able to experience or understand. Stop judging them.
dani302011 until you start experiencing mass murders of people who look like you because of your skin color, by men and women whose job it is to protect said people, you have literally no right to tell anyone how they should or should not be protesting.
It needs to happen here and everywhere but why does anyone think it is ok for protesting to mean destruction of any city? Why is it ok for people to come from all over the US and throw chairs through windows, loot stores and destroy property? I think you took my post the wrong way. I was out there during lunch and briefly after work surrounded by peaceful protest. Joining in and being apart of it all. That is the kind of protesting that should be happening in our cities. Instead people were shot and buildings destroyed and looted. How is this ok with anyone, black, white, yellow, orange or any color?
Orange? Really? You missed green and blue. /s/
This kind of statement is belittling of people of color. WTF!? Save
Violence is terrifying. Property destruction is abhorrent. Disregard for the rule of law that hypothetically keeps us all equally protected is deeply unsettling.
The systematic killing, incarceration, and disrespect of black and brown people by the state is worse. Dismantling racism is hard work and locking arms and singing or taking a knee during the anthem isn't going to solve it alone. Who am I to judge the chosen vehicle for protest?
Post by dottyblue on Sept 22, 2016 10:18:12 GMT -5
I'm fired up about this dani302011 . Charlotte is a FUCKING racist city. Openly racist, and the people I met there play it off as benevolent.
I have family in Charlotte, and I cut my last trip short two years ago because I called them out on the racist comments and discussion that happened in their home, in stores and in their church. 10+ incidents in 2 days was too much. It was unbelievable the number of complete strangers who thought I would agree with their racist commentary because my skin is white.
These protestors have been pushed to their limit. They were confronted by police in full tactical gear. How you think they should have reacted DOES. NOT. MATTER.
Take a step back and look at your own comments. You are a reflection of the city you live in. Evaluate yourself.
In Los Angeles, Black Lives Matter have been peacefully protesting at city hall since July...LAPD has still shot and killed unarmed black men in this time.
Peaceful is great. But when nothing happens in response, escalation is inevitable. Those of us who are unaffected by the problems festering in the police community need to be inconvenienced a little more. God forbid my delicate lily white eyes have to see broken windows in my community - the horror!
I'm fired up about this dani302011. Charlotte is a FUCKING racist city. Openly racist, and the people I met there play it off as benevolent. I have family there, and I cut my last trip short two years ago because I called them out on the racist comments and discussion that happened in their home, in stores and in their church. 10+ incidents in 2 days was too much. It was unbelievable the number of complete strangers who thought I would agree with their racist commentary because my skin is white.
These protestors have been pushed to their limit. They were confronted by police in full tactical gear. How you think they should have reacted DOES. NOT. MATTER.
Take a step back and look at your own comments. You are a reflection of the city you live in. Evaluate yourself.
Let's be real. Every city is a FUCKING racist city. Do not pat yourself on the back too hard for leaving Racistville, USA in protest since you went home to Racisttown, USA.
I'm fired up about this dani302011 . Charlotte is a FUCKING racist city. Openly racist, and the people I met there play it off as benevolent. I have family there, and I cut my last trip short two years ago because I called them out on the racist comments and discussion that happened in their home, in stores and in their church. 10+ incidents in 2 days was too much. It was unbelievable the number of complete strangers who thought I would agree with their racist commentary because my skin is white.
These protestors have been pushed to their limit. They were confronted by police in full tactical gear. How you think they should have reacted DOES. NOT. MATTER.
Take a step back and look at your own comments. You are a reflection of the city you live in. Evaluate yourself.
Let's be real. Every city is a FUCKING racist city. Do not pat yourself on the back too hard for leaving Racistville, USA in protest since you went home to Racisttown, USA.
Ugh. That wasn't my intention, but yes, I can see how that reads, even though I re-read several times before posting. I am not looking for back pats. I apologize. Save
If you step on my face, and I ask you politely, several times to stop, and you're like "Nah. Feels good. I'm gonna keep on stepping on ya. HTH!" Why am I blamed when I finally get sick of it and beat your ass? Why do I get the blame when you've been using my face as a doormat for centuries? I don't give a single fuck about your office building or a bullshit CVS or whatthefuckever. I care that one again, a black man was murdered and his death will most likely be swept under the rug.
Post by sarahsays on Sept 22, 2016 10:47:24 GMT -5
If anyone would like to donate to the bail funds of individuals arrested yesterday, The Durham Solidarity Center is collecting donations. durhamsolidaritycenter.org/bondfund/
Also, eyewitness accounts are saying a white officer shot Keith Scott and that the black officer came on the scene minutes later and tried to administer aid.
Post by aussiecrush on Sept 22, 2016 10:56:04 GMT -5
Lets be serious. These protests don't start as people going out and burning shit down. They are an outpouring of grief and fear and anger where frequently the aggressor is yet again the police. Drones, riot gear, illegal restriction of the constitutional right to assemble, kettling, armored vehicles, canine units, LRAD, police sharp shooters...the list is endless. After giving a clear message that people of color don't so much as have the right to breath without fear of death at the hand of those sworn to protect and serve, then they don't have the right to peacefully protest those deaths.
Post by acceptthegood on Sept 22, 2016 10:56:34 GMT -5
I have to be honest, in that when I first heard about the protest, I was like "F yeah! Protest!" Because this is such an unbearable miscarriage of justice I want to punch something too. And felt solidarity with the protesters' message.
But then I realized that people are being hurt and shot, and that is the last thing I want to happen to the already oppressed. But what are our fellow Americans of color to do? Peaceful protest of taking a knee is condemned, and people are continuing to be slaughtered.
I just know as a white woman, it is now my responsibility to be loud and denounce this in every way I can. And I'm trying, starting dialogues with my friends and speaking to my children about it. But it doesn't feel enough. Not nearly.
Where do you think it should happen, then? Someone else's city, someone else's back yard?
It needs to happen here and everywhere but why does anyone think it is ok for protesting to mean destruction of any city? Why is it ok for people to come from all over the US and throw chairs through windows, loot stores and destroy property? I think you took my post the wrong way. I was out there during lunch and briefly after work surrounded by peaceful protest. Joining in and being apart of it all. That is the kind of protesting that should be happening in our cities. Instead people were shot and buildings destroyed and looted. How is this ok with anyone, black, white, yellow, orange or any color?
I know, right! Silent protests are SO MUCH more productive. Why don't they just try that?!
Post by KateAggie on Sept 22, 2016 15:35:34 GMT -5
Remember the Boston Tea Party? They didn't just dump tea. Americans have been protesting, rioting, since our inception. But I guess it's only OK when you're facing an oppressive authority... Oh, wait.
Where do you think it should happen, then? Someone else's city, someone else's back yard?
It needs to happen here and everywhere but why does anyone think it is ok for protesting to mean destruction of any city? Why is it ok for people to come from all over the US and throw chairs through windows, loot stores and destroy property? I think you took my post the wrong way. I was out there during lunch and briefly after work surrounded by peaceful protest. Joining in and being apart of it all. That is the kind of protesting that should be happening in our cities. Instead people were shot and buildings destroyed and looted. How is this ok with anyone, black, white, yellow, orange or any color?
I can't believe this fuckery. I already posted this elsewhere once, but maybe you need to see it again:
Maybe you've forgotten how peaceful protests of the past were met with chains on backs, dogs viciously biting people walking silently, or fire hoses spraying children. Or how complacent we've become with fraternity white boys flipping cars and destroying public property when their alma mater football team wins a bowl game, and boys will be boys, it's all in fun.
People need to burn down the fucking institutions that oppress them because that's how you confront oppression and make them answer for the injustice they've served in the form of people being murdered in the streets. BLM peaceful protests have been happening in cities all over the country, and they've been labeled a terrorist group by white america at large. Kaepernick and others who have joined him in protest have been met with death threats and slurs so evil we daren't utter them. So, precious, what might you suggest? Just reading this crap makes me want to be violent with you for your obtuseness, can you imagine how people of color feel? Christ!
Post by trytobearunner34 on Sept 23, 2016 4:46:20 GMT -5
I apologize in advance if this post feels like I am losing sight of the larger issue. Believe me I am not.
Interesting observations related to the media.
According to our local news in Charlotte Scotts family viewed the video and released a statement last evening ( among other things saying they have more questions than answers).
USA today is reporting:
The family has not seen the video or released a statement (article updated 4 hours ago) Chief of Police refuses to release the video despite claiming transparency (updated 43 minutes ago), but doesn't showing the video to the family count as a form of release?
The first report is most troubling as it is false. Where is the media's accountability?
The militarization of the police force is disgusting.
The police show up in riot gear to peaceful marches-- because black = rioters to them.
In Ferguson, they stood across the street from us, appearing en masse from behind buildings,in full riot gear. Staring.
And when the staring wasn't enough, they engaged and pushed and shoved and made up rules so they could arrest whoever they wanted & whenever they wanted.
I have friends living in Charlotte and they told me the same yesterday. Horrible.
I'm coming to the US on Monday and the original plan was to go to Charlotte today to visit them before my business meetings in Toledo. I am rather happy that this didn't work out!
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