I'm sort of surprised that Tina Fey is not, however.
I don't think their time on SNL overlapped.
I don't know why Tina Fey came to mind, although I thought I remembered us having a discussion a while back about how Tina Fey showed her ass on something. I forget. My brain is pudding nowadays.
I remember him appearing in a Weekend Update sketch when Fey was anchor, and Franken was supposedly with soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I don't know why Tina Fey came to mind, although I thought I remembered us having a discussion a while back about how Tina Fey showed her ass on something. I forget. My brain is pudding nowadays.
I remember him appearing in a Weekend Update sketch when Fey was anchor, and Franken was supposedly with soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Just because someone is good in one setting does not mean they cannot possibly have a hidden shit side that you do not see.
And that’s to say nothing of the fact that maybe standards of decency are a little different on the set of a comedy show than the rest of life.
HOW IS THE BOLDED NOT OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE?
As for standards of decency on a comedy show, I recall Tina Fey writing in Bossypants about male writers at SNL who would pee in jars in their offices and leave them on shelves rather than bothering to actually walk to the bathroom. So I'm going to take this letter with more than one grain of salt.
Just because someone is good in one setting does not mean they cannot possibly have a hidden shit side that you do not see.
And that’s to say nothing of the fact that maybe standards of decency are a little different on the set of a comedy show than the rest of life.
Do people think that if someone sexually harassed or assaulted some women it logically means they had to sexually assault every woman they ever met? Like, WTF?
Great. Congrats. You interacted with some women without groping their breasts.
Just because someone is good in one setting does not mean they cannot possibly have a hidden shit side that you do not see.
And that’s to say nothing of the fact that maybe standards of decency are a little different on the set of a comedy show than the rest of life.
Do people think that if someone sexually harassed or assaulted some women it logically means they had to sexually assault every woman they ever met? Like, WTF?
Great. Congrats. You interacted with some women without groping their breasts.
I saw something on Twitter that pointed out that OF COURSE people who harass and abuse others don't do it to EVERYONE. OF COURSE they cultivate friendships and professional relationships that give them a safety net. Even serial predators like Harvey Weinstein don't assault every woman they encounter. THIS IS PREDATORY BEHAVIOR 101!
Post by StrawberryBlondie on Nov 21, 2017 13:32:58 GMT -5
I'm in several local political FB groups and they've basically been silent about the second allegation. The first had substantial discussion (with a lot of apologists). A few people have tried to bring up the second allegation and it's just crickets.
I thought it was cute that all the liberals thought it was just an isolated incident.
predators don’t just change! have any of these men had just one allegation?
Non political, but George Takei (as far as I know). I've been waiting to see if there are any others, because this one is the one I might *maybe* believe is false. Maybe. Multiple accusations are the tell, IMO.
I just went off on a rant on one of my mom's friends. Die hard super vocal liberal gay man. I feel kinda bad. But he posted the thign with the photo of her kissing that solider and slapping robin william's ass and was just like, "CLEARLY she coudlnt 'have been assaulted. they were all just playing"
I just went off on a rant on one of my mom's friends. Die hard super vocal liberal gay man. I feel kinda bad. But he posted the thign with the photo of her kissing that solider and slapping robin william's ass and was just like, "CLEARLY she coudlnt 'have been assaulted. they were all just playing"
FUCK YOU. FUCK THAT. FUCK ALL OF IT.
This was what my "super liberal" male acquaintance posted too. I'm so pissed.
A (conservative) friend texted me this a bit ago & in my craziness of Tday prep, I very conveniently ignored. My H just asked what the deal was, expecting me to have the low-down. Shit.
I had a really good and gratifying conversation with my friend’s brother (who is running for Congress!) who is a great guy but “not all men!”-ed me. Between me and my friends SIL (not the guys wife, who was out, a different SIL) telling him what daily life was like for women and how it was feeling living in this particular time when people were finally able to tell their truths, he looked at us and said “you know, it must be really frustrating to finally be able to tell your stories and be heard and to have someone like me whine “but what about me?””
We were just like “you get it! Omg you get it! We did it!” 👏👏
Post by StrawberryBlondie on Nov 25, 2017 11:09:14 GMT -5
I don't know if this rationale has hit outside of MN yet... Apparently Tweeden was a birther, so her accusations against Franken aren't credible and we're just made to cause Democratic infighting.
I don't know if this rationale has hit outside of MN yet... Apparently Tweeden was a birther, so her accusations against Franken aren't credible and we're just made to cause Democratic infighting.
I just... I mean...
I had to unfriend my liberal atheist cousin in MN over this. One of her friends was spouting nonsense about tweeden being on Hannity etc, and my cousin wasn't arguing and said she had to wait for more info to come out. This was only after the first allegation and I knew there would be more.
I don't know if this rationale has hit outside of MN yet... Apparently Tweeden was a birther, so her accusations against Franken aren't credible and we're just made to cause Democratic infighting.
I just... I mean...
oh that's been ALL OVER my facebook this past week. I've unfriended SO MANY 'allies'...
I mean he admitted to the groping, right? I fail to see why her being a conservative or birther or whatever is even relevant. Also, multiple women have now alleged that they experienced this. Is the theory that they are all making this up to get him to resign?
I mean he admitted to the groping, right? I fail to see why her being a conservative or birther or whatever is even relevant. Also, multiple women have now alleged that they experienced this. Is the theory that they are all making this up to get him to resign?
And there is a PHOTO. I’ve seen the theory online that she was in on the joke and only pretending to be asleep, but no credible news source has found evidence of that (like confirmation from others on the trip). For all I know, she’s a terrible piece of shit person. But guess what? Victims can be bad people, and that doesn’t make it OK to harass, grope, or otherwise abuse them.
I don't know if this rationale has hit outside of MN yet... Apparently Tweeden was a birther, so her accusations against Franken aren't credible and we're just made to cause Democratic infighting.
I just... I mean...
oh that's been ALL OVER my facebook this past week. I've unfriended SO MANY 'allies'...
Thankfully no one I actually know has posted anything, but it's ALL over several groups I'm in.
That, and opinion pieces that this was just bait to divide Dems and we took it.
I heard a clip of him speaking on the radio. The quote was something along the lines of: "I'm open to making amends, knowing this will be a process. And the process starts here today, with my getting back to work"
Um. wut? I'm open to making amends, and I'm dictating the terms of those amends by saying that my continuing to occupy this place of trust and authority are part of the process. THE FUCK YOU SAY??? I was actually kinda ambivilent on the idea of his resigning vs. investigating or whatever, but that REALLY made me think maybe he does just need to step back. Pro-tip to all fuckhead men: YOU.ARE.REPLACEABLE. You are not god's gift to us all, the only person capable of doing what you do. Jesus H. Christ.
I’m so disgusted by the defense of him from the left. The progressive moms group I’m in is all gross about their support of him. FROM OTHER WOMEN. They are all okay with this. I just feel like throwing in the towel on politics.
I heard a clip of him speaking on the radio. The quote was something along the lines of: "I'm open to making amends, knowing this will be a process. And the process starts here today, with my getting back to work"
Um. wut? I'm open to making amends, and I'm dictating the terms of those amends by saying that my continuing to occupy this place of trust and authority are part of the process. THE FUCK YOU SAY??? I was actually kinda ambivilent on the idea of his resigning vs. investigating or whatever, but that REALLY made me think maybe he does just need to step back. Pro-tip to all fuckhead men: YOU.ARE.REPLACEABLE. You are not god's gift to us all, the only person capable of doing what you do. Jesus H. Christ.
Yeah see all these men want second chances to do the right thing. Not to be a broken record but how many women have had no chances or gave up their chance because this political environment is so sexually toxic to women thanks to behaviors like his?
I’m so disgusted by the defense of him from the left. The progressive moms group I’m in is all gross about their support of him. FROM OTHER WOMEN. They are all okay with this. I just feel like throwing in the towel on politics.
Someone in a group I'm in insists that there's no corroborating evidence.