Can we talk Avengers yet? SPOILERS

[alleinesein]

These have me cracking up! I really love #2 & 15

www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/like-a-pirate-had-a-baby-with-an-angel?utm_term=.qcrOkGv6N#.qnmD9VaGL

I posted an emoji spoiler earlier and only the people who have seen the movie can figure it out. It is driving one of my friends insane because it looks like gibberish- it is a rabbit, a hammer, a spaceship, a dark star, a bright star, and fire. This is payback for the TLJ spoilers my friends in the UK sent me when they saw it.

[punisher]

Apr 27, 2018 18:28:58 GMT -5 nsl said:

-WTF was Red Skull doing in this movie? I may or may not have said, "Are you fucking kidding me?" out loud when he pulled his hood off.

When Red Skull goes in Captain America, he is holding the space stone (Tesseract) in his bare hand. You see space open behind him, and in the Avengers Hawkeye calls the Tesseract a "door" that swings both ways, and then you see Loki use it to travel to Earth. So I always guessed Red Skull got sucked out the door to... somewhere.

[punisher]

Apr 27, 2018 12:39:07 GMT -5 nsl said:

I just got back and have some thoughts.

So, Dr. Strange saw only one path to victory, and then proceeded to hand over the stone. He had no emotional reason to do it, so his excuse about saving Tony must have been just that, i.e. this is still how they're going to win in the end. My money is on some kind of time travel shenanigans, similar to what Thanos did to Vision after Wanda destroyed the stone.

This is my feeling as well. Strange knows the outcome and after making such an issue earlier of absolutely not sacrificing the time stone for Tony or Peter, this is not the full end he saw.

[punisher]

The Marvel movies all seem to have an overarching theme, and this one is most definitely sacrifice.

We're seeing it again this morning so I may be back to clarify some views or opinions.

SPOILER: Click to show

The movie kicking off with the total destruction of the Asgardians, after wer kept hearing in Ragnarok are "not a place" but a people, really sets the tone that shit is getting dark.

I loved that we finally see the extreme force of the powers of Scarlet Witch. LOVED the scene where she's about to be killed but Black Widow and Okoye are there to say, "She's not alone."

Two best entrances: Cap in Edinburgh and Thor in Wakanda.

It's safe to say no one predicted the soul stone would be on a planet in the keeping of Red Skull.

The forging of the battle axe, Stormbreaker, was awesome... and Thor is quite literally part of that axe since the star was pushed through him to heat the pieces.

I am not quite convinced Loki is dead. When Heimdall summons the dark magic to generate a bifrost to send Hulk to earth, my first thought was, "Isn't that Loki's jam? And why would Heimdall only send Hulk to earth?" I'm going to watch today to see if there's any hint of Loki reappearing as an apparition.

Nebula is fucking TOUGH. Shit. That scene when Thanos is literally pulling her apart...

I kind of want to deck Quill. I understand, but damn, dude, y'all came so close to getting the gauntlet off!

Shuri is quickly proved to be smarter than Banner. I was quite satisfied.

Also, did y'all notice Hawkeye and AntMan are listed in the credits? I'm convinced AntMan in the quantum realm is part of the resolution.

[punisher]

Apr 27, 2018 11:20:55 GMT -5 alleinesein said:

Apr 27, 2018 10:00:17 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

All these people die??!!?

Half of humanity dies. 

Slight correction: half of the universe.

[alleinesein]

Apr 28, 2018 6:59:59 GMT -5 punisher said:

The Marvel movies all seem to have an overarching theme, and this one is most definitely sacrifice.

We're seeing it again this morning so I may be back to clarify some views or opinions.

SPOILER: Click to show

The movie kicking off with the total destruction of the Asgardians, after wer kept hearing in Ragnarok are "not a place" but a people, really sets the tone that shit is getting dark.

I loved that we finally see the extreme force of the powers of Scarlet Witch. LOVED the scene where she's about to be killed but Black Widow and Okoye are there to say, "She's not alone."

Two best entrances: Cap in Edinburgh and Thor in Wakanda.

It's safe to say no one predicted the soul stone would be on a planet in the keeping of Red Skull.

The forging of the battle axe, Stormbreaker, was awesome... and Thor is quite literally part of that axe since the star was pushed through him to heat the pieces.

I am not quite convinced Loki is dead. When Heimdall summons the dark magic to generate a bifrost to send Hulk to earth, my first thought was, "Isn't that Loki's jam? And why would Heimdall only send Hulk to earth?" I'm going to watch today to see if there's any hint of Loki reappearing as an apparition.

Nebula is fucking TOUGH. Shit. That scene when Thanos is literally pulling her apart...

I kind of want to deck Quill. I understand, but damn, dude, y'all came so close to getting the gauntlet off!

Shuri is quickly proved to be smarter than Banner. I was quite satisfied.

Also, did y'all notice Hawkeye and AntMan are listed in the credits? I'm convinced AntMan in the quantum realm is part of the resolution.

Pay attention to what Thor says about the things he lost. Many of us heard him say that only half his people were killed. Valkyrie is also suspiciously absent so maybe she was able to escape with some Asgardians. 

[Pom]

Apr 28, 2018 10:52:07 GMT -5 alleinesein said:

Apr 28, 2018 6:59:59 GMT -5 punisher said:

The Marvel movies all seem to have an overarching theme, and this one is most definitely sacrifice.

We're seeing it again this morning so I may be back to clarify some views or opinions.

SPOILER: Click to show

The movie kicking off with the total destruction of the Asgardians, after wer kept hearing in Ragnarok are "not a place" but a people, really sets the tone that shit is getting dark.

I loved that we finally see the extreme force of the powers of Scarlet Witch. LOVED the scene where she's about to be killed but Black Widow and Okoye are there to say, "She's not alone."

Two best entrances: Cap in Edinburgh and Thor in Wakanda.

It's safe to say no one predicted the soul stone would be on a planet in the keeping of Red Skull.

The forging of the battle axe, Stormbreaker, was awesome... and Thor is quite literally part of that axe since the star was pushed through him to heat the pieces.

I am not quite convinced Loki is dead. When Heimdall summons the dark magic to generate a bifrost to send Hulk to earth, my first thought was, "Isn't that Loki's jam? And why would Heimdall only send Hulk to earth?" I'm going to watch today to see if there's any hint of Loki reappearing as an apparition.

Nebula is fucking TOUGH. Shit. That scene when Thanos is literally pulling her apart...

I kind of want to deck Quill. I understand, but damn, dude, y'all came so close to getting the gauntlet off!

Shuri is quickly proved to be smarter than Banner. I was quite satisfied.

Also, did y'all notice Hawkeye and AntMan are listed in the credits? I'm convinced AntMan in the quantum realm is part of the resolution.

Pay attention to what Thor says about the things he lost. Many of us heard him say that only half his people were killed. Valkyrie is also suspiciously absent so maybe she was able to escape with some Asgardians. 

I was asking H about this on the way home. 

[punisher]

Apr 28, 2018 14:05:55 GMT -5 jeaniebueller said:

Apr 27, 2018 9:10:42 GMT -5 runforrest said:

I want to know all of the spoilers, so I know if my kids will be okay seeing it....for example, if Cap, Black Panther, Iron Man, or Groot die, well.....my 8 year olds will be traumatized.

I think your 8 year old could probably handle it. It’s more of a shocking ending than traumatic. The way they die isn’t gory or bloody, they just kind of vaporize. My 9 year old loves Spider-Man and Groot and is mostly like ‘what just happened’ versus being upset.

If anything I think Loki and Nebula are the toughest scenes to watch.

[Chuppathingy]

Apr 27, 2018 9:54:07 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Apr 27, 2018 9:10:42 GMT -5 runforrest said:

I want to know all of the spoilers, so I know if my kids will be okay seeing it....for example, if Cap, Black Panther, Iron Man, or Groot die, well.....my 8 year olds will be traumatized.

Ok, if you really want to know- yes, Black Panther and Groot. Loki, Gamora, the one with the antennas, Starlord, Vision, Wanda, Idris Elba's character, Spiderman...I can't even remember all.

It seems possible that some may come back.

I'm pretty sure most, if not all of them will come back. Maybe not Vision, Gamora, and Loki, but possibly them and I'm guessing everyone who turned to dust. Marvel comic deaths are almost never permanent, and definitely not the turning to dust variety.

[alleinesein]

Apr 28, 2018 16:00:08 GMT -5 Chuppathingy said:

Apr 27, 2018 9:54:07 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Ok, if you really want to know- yes, Black Panther and Groot. Loki, Gamora, the one with the antennas, Starlord, Vision, Wanda, Idris Elba's character, Spiderman...I can't even remember all.

It seems possible that some may come back.

I'm pretty sure most, if not all of them will come back. Maybe not Vision, Gamora, and Loki, but possibly them and I'm guessing everyone who turned to dust. Marvel comic deaths are almost never permanent, and definitely not the turning to dust variety.

Tom Hiddleston has 1 movie left on his contract with Marvel so he will most likely turn up in Avengers 4.  Loki's death was too "easy" and considering that Loki disappears for a bit before his final confrontation with Thanos we cannot be 100% positive that it was really Loki who died.  

[eclaires]

Jackson cried.

But I also think Strange knew this was how they had to win. I have to say spiderman dying was hard to watch. Tom Holland is so believable as a child.

Cap made my heart flutter every time he was on the screen. Loved Thor too.

It was a lot better than I expected. I had fairly low expectations with that many characters.

I don’t think many of the deaths are permanent.

[iammalcolmx]

It felt like the 2016 election

[dreamcrisp1]

I don’t see the “deaths” as permanent either. They will use the time stone and make things better.

I loved the movie. Sooooo good.

My theatre clapped when Cap showed up in Edinburgh and Thor in wakanda. It was great! I liked this version of Cap so much better.

I can’t wait for Part 2. I think it comes out May 2019?

[claudiajean]

I realized from my reactions tonight in the theater that I am deeply attached to Wakanda. I was so pissed that their beautiful land they’d protected for so long was getting torn up. And I’m apparently also very attached to Okoye because every time she was in danger, I was gasping.

Thor’s entrance into Wakanda was awesome.

The movie was a bit of a letdown. Knowing those ending deaths aren’t permanent takes away the impact of them. So then it seems a little pointless. But overall, it was entertaining.

[meganew]

Saw it last night and loved it. I like that they gave Thanos a bit of backstory and showed some weakness so that he’s not just some huge, evil villain for no reason.

The stuff with Gamora was really hard- her begging Quill to kill her and Quill actually trying. Then the slow motion throw- escaping from Thanos and finding a real family and love and friendship, only to be killed by Thanos as a way of bringing him a step closer to the thing she’s been trying to prevent. It’s just such a heartbreaking end for her and Quill’s storyline.

Spidrman and Black Panthers deaths were the most surprising. I though no way they would kill off (even temporarily) some of the newest and, in Black Panther’s case, most loved characters. Him dissolving caused eruptions from the crowd in our theater, and Parker’s death with the begging hit really hard because he’s just a kid : (

Overall the movie was way funnier than I was expecting, Thor vs Peter Quill might have been my favorite part. That and “I am Groot” “I am Steve Rogers” LOL.

Can anyone explain what that message was Fury sent out at the end?

[Kristinmo]

Apr 29, 2018 6:28:31 GMT -5 meganew said:

Saw it last night and loved it. I like that they gave Thanos a bit of backstory and showed some weakness so that he’s not just some huge, evil villain for no reason.

The stuff with Gamora was really hard- her begging Quill to kill her and Quill actually trying. Then the slow motion throw- escaping from Thanos and finding a real family and love and friendship, only to be killed by Thanos as a way of bringing him a step closer to the thing she’s been trying to prevent. It’s just such a heartbreaking end for her and Quill’s storyline.

Spidrman and Black Panthers deaths were the most surprising. I though no way they would kill off (even temporarily) some of the newest and, in Black Panther’s case, most loved characters. Him dissolving caused eruptions from the crowd in our theater, and Parker’s death with the begging hit really hard because he’s just a kid : (

Overall the movie was way funnier than I was expecting, Thor vs Peter Quill might have been my favorite part. That and “I am Groot” “I am Steve Rogers” LOL.

Can anyone explain what that message was Fury sent out at the end?

It was to call for Captain Marvel

[CallingAllAngels]

Apr 29, 2018 3:07:20 GMT -5 claudiajean said:

I realized from my reactions tonight in the theater that I am deeply attached to Wakanda. I was so pissed that their beautiful land they’d protected for so long was getting torn up. And I’m apparently also very attached to Okoye because every time she was in danger, I was gasping.

Thor’s entrance into Wakanda was awesome.

The movie was a bit of a letdown. Knowing those ending deaths aren’t permanent takes away the impact of them. So then it seems a little pointless. But overall, it was entertaining.

Seeing Wakanda destroyed upset me more than any of the character deaths.

[punisher]

I'm curious about how the heroes we are left with are the same core heroes we start with in the Avengers: we have the ones who were in that iconic circle-up in the Incident of NYC.

(Plus Rhodes and Nebula.)

[eclaires]

Apr 29, 2018 7:26:24 GMT -5 punisher said:

I'm curious about how the heroes we are left with are the same core heroes we start with in the Avengers: we have the ones who were in that iconic circle-up in the Incident of NYC.

(Plus Rhodes and Nebula.)

I think it’s because they were clearing the field for them to have a final/swan song in avengers 4 and turn it over after one last big save. Some may actually die and some may retire. But I think it’s setting the stage to close out what they started. Like Tony said, thanos has been part of this for the last however many years of his life. Anyway the originals get to do what they were meant to do and that wraps up this stage. Then we move on without them.

[pixy0stix]

The whole “save the universe or save your friend” theme times 5 (or however many times) annoyed the shit out of me. Save the universe! And then I realized I’m basically Thanos.

[eclaires]

Apr 29, 2018 9:41:34 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

The whole “save the universe or save your friend” theme times 5 (or however many times) annoyed the shit out of me. Save the universe! And then I realized I’m basically Thanos.

I thought that a few times. BYE VISION.

[claudiajean]

Yeah “we don’t trade a life for lives.” WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT HALF THE UNIVERSE, I THINK IT IS A FAIR TRADE.

[punisher]

Apr 29, 2018 10:08:28 GMT -5 claudiajean said:

Yeah “we don’t trade a life for lives.” WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT HALF THE UNIVERSE, I THINK IT IS A FAIR TRADE.

Yep, Cap. You're wrong. Same thing we saw at Sokovia... you can't save everyone.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 29, 2018 11:07:00 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Apr 29, 2018 6:38:05 GMT -5 1234FIF! said:

He was reaching out to Capt. Marvel

Huh my husband was saying he was calling Ms Marvel.

They’re the same-ish from what people are telling me.

[punisher]

I also want to think more on the sequence right after he snaps his fingers. Talk is it's created by the soul stone, similarly to when Thanos obtained it, so I wonder if there's more there...

[fortnightlily]

Apr 29, 2018 11:11:32 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Apr 29, 2018 11:07:00 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Huh my husband was saying he was calling Ms Marvel.

They’re the same-ish from what people are telling me.

Brie Larson's Captain Marvel movie is already being filmed, gonna be out March 2019, so it's her: www.imdb.com/title/tt4154664/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

[glinda]

The "we don't trade lives for lives" is totally setting up Cap and Stark to sacrifice themselves in the next one in exchange for setting things right.

[pixy0stix]

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Pepper is obviously pregnant and doesn’t know it yet, so that will be part of the storyline too.

[eclaires]

Apr 29, 2018 18:01:51 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

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Pepper is obviously pregnant and doesn’t know it yet, so that will be part of the storyline too.

I’ve seen totally unsubstantiated rumors about casting for Avengers 4 that includes next generation. I believe some of the versions/worlds include something like Young Avengers (maybe ultimate? Which they’ve pulled from before). My kids are obsessed with a post Ultron cartoon version called Next Avengers, which includes James Rogers, among others (like T’challa’s son, Thor’s daughter, etc.). It has several differences because the backstory doesn’t include Thanos (more like ultron is successful and Tony escapes with Vision and the next generation and is living under the radar).

[sofamonkey]

Apr 29, 2018 20:41:08 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Apr 29, 2018 18:01:51 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

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Pepper is obviously pregnant and doesn’t know it yet, so that will be part of the storyline too.

I’ve seen totally unsubstantiated rumors about casting for Avengers 4 that includes next generation. I believe some of the versions/worlds include something like Young Avengers (maybe ultimate? Which they’ve pulled from before). My kids are obsessed with a post Ultron cartoon version called Next Avengers, which includes James Rogers, among others (like T’challa’s son, Thor’s daughter, etc.). It has several differences because the backstory doesn’t include Thanos (more like ultron is successful and Tony escapes with Vision and the next generation and is living under the radar).

We love that one too!! Is there any plans for more than just the initial movie, or did I miss what’s already out?