@randoms 7/2

[estrellita]

A will sleep at some point without being held right? Ugh. She wakes up at least once per night. Every time we try to put her in the bassinet, she either starts screaming immediately or within an hour or so. H ends up sleeping on the couch with her in the baby seat thing because she needs to hold his hand. Seriously??

We have a fan on, tried ibuprofen, probiotics (sometimes I think her tummy is upset), she's fed, changed, etc. I have no idea if she's teething since I don't see anything. She doesn't seem to be pulling at her ears or having a fever. She just wants to be held constantly. She sleeps great in our arms but screams when we put her down. And there's no fussing, it's straight to screaming.

I know I'm totally a broken record but I'm so lost. I just want her to sleep and not need to be held so much! Help?

[Deleted]

estrellita: Sorry things are so rough. Teething does sound like a reasonable option. My 15 m.o. was up screaming last night too.
How do you put her down to sleep? On her back? C had trouble on her back, from birth she slept on her side most of the time and eventually we let her sleep on her stomach. It seems counter intuitive for stomach issues, but it worked.** sleep safety says lie on back, from what I understand, side & stomach are okay if your baby can roll.
Also, I've vented about this before, C is up at least 1-2 times a night. We think she has trouble falling asleep and staying asleep, which DH & I both struggle with.

[luv2rn4fun]

estrellita- ((Hugs)). How old is A now? At some point you are likely going to have to do some sleep training. Give her Tylenol/Motrin to make sure she is covered if teething and then let her figure it out. But, even with sleep training, L rarely STTN. It has gotten so much better though and his wake ups have mostly always been short...much shorter than if we hadn’t sleep trained. Last night he was up for a minute at 5a and then quickly back to sleep. Pre vacation he was up twice most nights. He was up at least 1x nightly on vacation but only for a minute...just a quick “It’s nite nite time L” and he put himself back to sleep.

I feel for you...he’s 21 months old and only just starting to STTN. The sleep deprivation is horrible (I did all MOTN, totally brutal). I hope she starts sleeping for you guys soon! I kept saying the same thing and never imagined it would take this long (I didn’t night wean him til 17 months though).

[katespade]

estrellita - I have no advice, but I'm sorry that she's having such a tough time with sleep.

[luv2rn4fun]

We tried to open C’s door last night to let it cool off (we open it during summer when it’s hot and close it sometime 3-5a when we wake up randomly). He was not having it at all. He also won’t sleep with the window open and insists on wearing a sleep sack. It was 78 in his room when he went to bed (which isn’t as bad as it’s going to get...likely we will have a couple 82 degree days (in his room, 100 outside).

[bk1]

I'm so sorry estrellita. C wasn't a great sleeper her first year. Prior to sleep training she was up 4-5 times a night. Even after sleep training she was still up 3 times a night most nights. That whole first year is brutal.

[katespade]

I'm so nervous about my appointment today! Does the nervousness ever go away, or am I going to feel like this before every appointment all the way through?

[estrellita]

@opal Yes, always on her back. She hates being on her tummy and is stubborn, she knows how to roll from her tummy but refuses to most of the time, lol.

luv2rn4fun She just hit 7 months. I'm not sure how to sleep train when she's in our room. Eventually the kids are sharing a room but considering we have sleep issues with both, I'm not sure how that's going to work, lol. But I have tried letting her cry a little but she doesn't seem to calm herself, she just starts screaming more and more. Of course I blame myself and assume there's something wrong with my milk because E didn't have these issues but then I remind myself all babies are different and she could very easily be this way on formula too. I'm half considering trying though.. I'm desperate, lol.

[MrsMB]

Jul 3, 2018 9:03:45 GMT -5 katespade said:

I'm so nervous about my appointment today! Does the nervousness ever go away, or am I going to feel like this before every appointment all the way through?

Girl, I couldn't eat before any of my appointments. Afterwards, I'd usually pray with relief then go stuff my face with relief (and food). True story. You better update afterwards!!!

[katespade]

Jul 3, 2018 9:29:06 GMT -5 MrsMB said:

Jul 3, 2018 9:03:45 GMT -5 katespade said:

I'm so nervous about my appointment today! Does the nervousness ever go away, or am I going to feel like this before every appointment all the way through?

Girl, I couldn't eat before any of my appointments. Afterwards, I'd usually pray with relief then go stuff my face with relief (and food). True story. You better update afterwards!!!

Of course! It's not until 3:45 PST, so it'll be a late update. It's nice to know that I'm not alone, though. It's almost like the more confident I feel, the more nervous I feel, too. We've seen baby twice and everything was perfect a week ago, but somehow that makes me almost even more nervous than last time!

[estrellita]

Jul 3, 2018 9:03:45 GMT -5 katespade said:

I'm so nervous about my appointment today! Does the nervousness ever go away, or am I going to feel like this before every appointment all the way through?

GL! I think it gets better once you feel the baby moving. Of course then you get nervous when you don't feel baby for a bit.. lol. Also with each week that passed, I told myself the chances of bad things happening kept going down. Pregnancy is definitely difficult on anxiety, but then again having the baby is too. It never truly goes away but try to focus on the positive things and remember that statistics are in your favor! That tends to help me!

[bk1]

katespade the nervousness went down a bit for me at each appointment. I hope it works like that for you. I also tried to plan as many appointments in the morning as possible so I didn't have to wait all day.

[luv2rn4fun]

Jul 3, 2018 9:34:37 GMT -5 estrellita said:

Jul 3, 2018 9:03:45 GMT -5 katespade said:

I'm so nervous about my appointment today! Does the nervousness ever go away, or am I going to feel like this before every appointment all the way through?

GL! I think it gets better once you feel the baby moving. Of course then you get nervous when you don't feel baby for a bit.. lol. Also with each week that passed, I told myself the chances of bad things happening kept going down. Pregnancy is definitely difficult on anxiety, but then again having the baby is too. It never truly goes away but try to focus on the positive things and remember that statistics are in your favor! That tends to help me!

All of this katespade! Good luck today! Praying for you!

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estrellita: C is/was the opposite. She would get so mad if she rolled onto her back from her side.
We sleep trained for naps & bedtime so she can mostly fall asleep by herself. She's still not one to put herself back to sleep in the MoTN, it's very rare here. Also - Teething or sickness mess everything up!

[Deleted]

I broke down and bought a leash backpack. C enjoyed running "free" in the mall. I'm enjoying knowing that if she lets go of my hand, she still won't get more than a foot away.

[katespade]

Just got home from my appointment. We got to hear her (!!!) heartbeat, and the doctor said it sounded perfect.❤️

[Blue Moon]

Jul 3, 2018 19:20:31 GMT -5 katespade said:

Just got home from my appointment. We got to hear her (!!!) heartbeat, and the doctor said it sounded perfect.❤️

A girl?! So awesome, congratulations!

[bk1]

I've been using the miracle 360 cups for the girls. C has started chewing on the top which causes terrible leaks and I just had to toss the second top to a cup. I need something new for her. Spill proof, bite/chew resistant, and she demands taking water to bed so I need something that won't leak in the crib overnight. Any suggestions? 

ETA: easy to clean as well!

[grover]

bk1, we use the playtex sipsters. She does chew on the top, but it hasn't leaked at all. Might be worth a try?

[estrellita]

bk1 E has some Contigo water bottles and we really like them. The only leaks we've had are when something wasn't connected right or sometimes when he pops the straw up, it flings a few drops. Not sure if that's what you're looking for or not!

[awick14]

((estrellita))

luv2rn4fun- can you maybe get a fan on a timer and put it in his room? That’s what we have done for DDs room and it works well so far.

katespade- until DD was moving constantly the time leading up to each appointment was horrible. Hopefully it will get better for you.

DD has been teething pretty badly recently and it’s sucked. Her first few teeth didn’t bother her this much. Hopefully it equals lots of teeth. (She’s 18 months and just cut her 7th and 8th teeth.)

In a weird change of events dh and I had a heart to heart the other day and he has decided that he does want another kid. He’s just terrified that they won’t be as easy as dd. And now that we live far away he is nervous about how it will work out. No plans on TTC until the fall at the earliest though.

We are also in a much better place in our relationship as well. (Obviously, other wise their wouldn’t be talk of more little ones.)

[MrsMB]

Jul 3, 2018 16:48:06 GMT -5 @opal said:

I broke down and bought a leash backpack. C enjoyed running "free" in the mall. I'm enjoying knowing that if she lets go of my hand, she still won't get more than a foot away.

I had DH buy this little wrist-to-wrist contraption to keep DD close by. Because I'm alone with the kids the majority of the week, it was the only thing we could think of to reign in DD.

[luv2rn4fun]

Jul 4, 2018 21:23:54 GMT -5 suzv said:

I second the contigo water bottles bk1! We love them and haven’t had any problems with leaking.

bk1- ditto suzv and estrellita. Both boys have them and love them. We actually had to get one for L because he wanted C’s all the time. He’s been using it for a good 4-6 months now and no issues.

[luv2rn4fun]

awick14- C has a ceiling fan in his room (we all do). I have been turning it on medium (would turn it on high but he refuses...he actually thinks medium is low and I am not going to tell him otherwise) and just leave it on most nights or turn it off whenever I wake up MOTN.

Glad things are going well for you and your DH and that he has agreed to another kid! Wishing you guys all the best when you decide to TTC!

[HoneySpider]

awick14, I definitely worry about kid #2 not being as easy as DS. I feel like there's no way we get this lucky twice.

[grover]

awick14, H has the same concerns. And I do too really, since I'm the one with them all summer. We really lucked out with A sleeping through the night at like 6-7 weeks old.

[pooh8402]

We're concerned about this next one being as difficult as E. He never STTN until 15 months, had reflux, always needed to be held, never content to stay still, etc etc etc. *They* say that if your first is difficult, then the second will be easier.

FX!

[MrsMB]

Jul 5, 2018 8:47:57 GMT -5 pooh8402 said:

We're concerned about this next one being as difficult as E. He never STTN until 15 months, had reflux, always needed to be held, never content to stay still, etc etc etc. *They* say that if your first is difficult, then the second will be easier.

FX!

We had a very similar experience. Our 2nd sure was....

[estrellita]

Not to scare anyone, but E was an easy baby and A isn't. Lol. He hasn't been an easy toddler though so maybe we'll get lucky and she'll be easier as she gets older? I sure hope so!

This morning I pumped more than I ever have in one sitting and got double digits for the first time ever! Exactly 10oz, lol. I have no idea what I did differently. I wish I knew so I could get that much every morning!

[luv2rn4fun]

C was by far the harder newborn. They have both had different varieties of hard. C slept better but has always been a more difficult kid. L is finally sleeping better but it has been a long road to get here. But he was the baby totally content to self entertain. Neither kid has really been “easy” but I think L was easier on me the first year.