I think some people you all are describing are mixing up social distancing and isolating. Unless you are told to quarantine, you do not need to stay in your house without any outside social contact. The social distancing is to limit large groups and to practice good hygiene. Limit physical contact and distance yourself . Practice extra good hygiene. Fresh air outdoors is a good thing.
We should all be very grateful that this isn't hitting a young population hard like the 1918 Spanish flu. We would all be loosing out minds if this was taking out the very young in 48 hours of onset.
Exactly! Pick a few other families and spend consistent time with just them— all the germs have been shared already. That’s completely different than going to the trampoline place where 1000+ families have shared germs.
They’re now saying a majority of transmissions seem to come from people who are asymptomatic. So we all have to stay home even if we feel fine because it’s still super contagious. Having said that, we’re setting up daily “recess” with the family across the street so the three kids get play time. Trying to contain our in-person exposure to just them.
This is literally all I was trying to do with 3 families on the street. We all each have 2 kids. So 6 kids total. Not excluding anyone that would normally participate - there’s only one other family and they never want to hang out with any of us. Oh well.
I was laughing because one of the moms posted on Facebook yesterday to her “Townname neighbors” that no one should ask her kids for a play date because we need to isolate. It felt a little personal since DD1 had knocked on their door that day. But that same mom posted videos of her DS’s gymnastics meet that took place yesterday. I’ve been to that gym a million times. It’s tiny, participants and spectators are all on top of each other. Also, it’s filthy. FILTHY. It smells like a foot and has visible dirt everywhere. So, selective isolation. 🤷♀️
Post by sandandsea on Mar 15, 2020 11:07:11 GMT -5
My concern with play dates is that if 4 families are each doing play dates with 4 families that’s a lot more exposure than just the 4 you are seeing. Honestly, we probably will do play dates because I may go crazy otherwise but we are staying away from public places and not visiting older or immune compromised people. I did offer to get groceries or errands for our elderly neighbors.
Our before/after care got permission to stay open for the time being. I'm heavily leaning on not sending DD. Sending her would be way easier than her coming to work with me every day and me trying to keep her amused while I do taxes. I'm guessing they will have close to 30 kids per day and I really can't chance DD getting sick which would get me and my dad possible sick. I know they will do everything in their power to make kids wash hands, sanitize, etc. but still.
DH thinks we are all over reacting and is going on as nothing has changed. I want to scream at him but am keeping my cool. I asked if he would at least start washing his hands between jobs and he said he doesn't have time, Ugh. I'm waiting for him to not work much soon since he does garage doors so not anyone highest concern right now. My mom is also thinking everyone is going bonkers but she already WFH and her only outside extras are picking DD up from school and taking her to gym during the week. She runs normal errands on the weekends so she really doesn't deal with the public.
Post by mustardseed2007 on Mar 15, 2020 15:08:47 GMT -5
Our karate studio is going on as if nothing has changed. It sounds like the gymnastics place mae0111 was describing. Like it's visibly not clean most days and they keep the kid's shoes at the front so it smells very strongly like feet. During the water shut down we had recently they didn't even run their taps before having kids drink out of the water fountain despite that being the recommended procedure per the health department.
I asked the owner if she's doing anything different. She said they clean the mats and touch points every night. Once a night. After 4+ classes have been through. And they are literally touching each other, and the instructor is touching them.
I told her we would consider if they upped their sanitation and gave specific suggestions 1) Ask kids to wash their hands after taking their shoes off 2) clean the mat between classes 3) Space the kid out as much as possible 4) lay off of sparring.
Her response was that she understands and respects our decision if we decide not to come.
For a while I got really worried and scared about the virus. I have pretty bad asthma, so I’m theoretically at higher risk of developing a more severe case. But I looked on the Allergy and Asthma Association website, and they said there’s no evidence asthma and worse disease have a correlation. But to follow your treatment plan if you get sick. That helped me a lot.
I still have a stupid fever, but no other symptoms beyond some sinus congestion. But I’m staying home until the fever goes away. I think the fever is a blessing since my company is still hanging on to “everyone come in, this is just the flu.” I’m really not comfortable with that, so I’m hoping they get their shit together before my fever goes away. But I’m not holding my breath.
The governor just closed all schools for 3 weeks. We were already closed for 2, so extended 1 week. I have to pick up the kids’ packets on Tuesday morning. I’d planned to get there right as they opened and really get started, but the governor also banned gatherings of more than 25 people, so now I am assigned to 11am for pick up.
DH is officially freaking out. Wants to cancel everything, interact with no one. We were supposed to have the kitchen wiring inspected tomorrow and the town government is officially closed, so I don’t know we will get inspected... which means we can’t close the walls... and construction will halt again.
Post by erinshelley21 on Mar 15, 2020 20:10:28 GMT -5
Ignore me if this has been brought up already. I missed the first week or so of this thread, but are you all seeing posts about people thinking this has been here since November and ramped up in December?
Lots of people got sick right around Christmas with a nasty cough and fever but tested negative for flu. It went on for weeks for most. My boss and I think this is what got us between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I started getting sick the weekend before Christmas and had a fever NYE/NYD and then kept getting them for a few weeks. I'm very interested to see what the people who have been positive feel like in the coming weeks.
erinshelley21, I believe this has been around for a few months. DH and I got what we assumed was the flu in February. DD2 had a little cold, no fever, didn’t even want to stay home. I’d give her a little decongestant in the morning and she’d be fine all day.
About a week later, DH started complaining of a sore throat. He never gets sick. 3 days later, super high fever, terrible cough that was painful, but he couldn’t clear his lungs, fever for 4 days, cough for 3 weeks. DD1 got it - fever for 2 days, bounced right back except for the cough (which always linger for her - minor asthma).
I got it 3 days after DH. On my day 2, DH went in for a chest X-ray because he couldn’t catch his breath. They heard crackling, have him an inhaler, but no pneumonia. I couldn’t breathe, high fever, terrible body aches (which is not a usual symptom of COVID-19, but has been reported).
None of us got tested, because we all react to medication so frequently that Tamiflu didn’t seem worth it given the side effects. So it’s very possible that it was flu. But I’ve had flu before. And whatever I had last month was 100x worse.
We were sick in December but it was flu B. About 2 weeks later DH got a nasty cold but none of the rest of us did. We all have cold now but it is all nose stuff. He joked that the January cold was Coronavirus, maybe.... I doubt it, but maybe...
Post by erinshelley21 on Mar 15, 2020 21:02:31 GMT -5
mae0111 I've never had the flu to be able to compare it. I just know I couldn't shake whatever I did have and also haven't felt like that before. I thought I had bronchitis but it didn't feel like all the other times I've had it. I had some body aches and thinking back to that stretch of time I was short of breath and still feel it. I chalked it up to getting used to have stairs and starting to get out of shape, but I'd been going up and down the stairs several times daily for 5 months before moving in.
I truly don't think I've had it this entire time and can blame living with one school aged kid for most of my days spent feeling bad, but this virus could have been the start.
A kid at DD’s school had flu-like symptoms and fevers for 9 days. NINE. They took her to the dr 5 times. Never tested positive. Who knows what that was because they say kids don’t really get that sick with it.
So there’s one case in our elementary school system (not our school, but nearby) and we got the announcement today, and I texted my good friend whose son goes there. Turns out it was her son’s first grade teacher. So my friend’s family is in quarantine for two weeks. These are the friends we went skiing with and all stayed in a house together two weekends ago...which I guess is hopefully just long enough for us to not have had a chance of being exposed? I guess the teacher is 40 years old and has only mild symptoms and is doing well, thank goodness.
What would you do for your friends in this situation? She says they’re good on food. I’m thinking my kids can write letters and draw pictures and we could have pictures from our trip printed out to send to them. Any other ideas?
Luckily my friend stays home and her husband owns a law firm so he has more flexibility than the average person to be at home. Their boys are 7 and almost 5.
Well, all of our bars and restaurants are closed. This just got real. Hopefully people will be taking advantage of a lot of takeout to keep these places going.
Post by erinshelley21 on Mar 16, 2020 9:09:23 GMT -5
sdlaura games for them to play or if the boys are into Hot Wheels $15-20 can buy a decent set of tracks for them to build. I have a set stashed away for next week. I'm hoping it stays hidden for that long lol
I ended up sending a Shutterfly puzzle that’s a picture of our kids in the snow, with their names as part of the puzzle. Thanks for the other ideas - I’m going to be on Amazon a lot coming up!
There are now 4 confirmed in my county plus 1 more in a neighboring county. The county is asking all non-essential businesses to close. Restaurants can stay open as long as they are take-out only.
My boss is talking to the company owner now about WFH. My pregnant coworker is now WFH indefinitely since there have now been a few reports of newborns with the virus, so some experts believe it can be transmitted in utero.
Well, all of our bars and restaurants are closed. This just got real. Hopefully people will be taking advantage of a lot of takeout to keep these places going.
Same in my state, as well as any entertainment places like movie theaters and bowling alleys.
We were with a friend last night who got a call from her dad who is a local police officer, who gave her a cryptic message that was basically "I can't say much, but stop and get gas before you go home. Tell your friends to fill up their tanks too. It's important but I can't tell you why."
So our gas tanks are filled up, but we're not sure why. I told my sister and a couple friends locally, so we're all topped up on gas. I figure best case scenario he's a conspiracy theorist and made assumptions based on something he was told but we all have gas. I can't even speculate what the worst case scenario could be.
k3am I think there are a lot of conspiracy theories going around - apparently there was a widespread one in NYC that there was an imminent lockdown in the city, so all the rich people fled to their second homes.
But like you said, if it's something you would need eventually anyway, why not do it?
We have solar power and two electric vehicles (and a third regular car), so at least we're diversified in car power sources
k3am, I'm now hearing rumors that the country will go on lockdown this week. I was hopeful that our kitchen cabinets would go in this week (its just one guy and his wife doing the work), but he told us hes trying to get to a good, long-term stopping point in the next few days.
Our county is now on lock down. We're not even supposed to leave houses, but that sounds impossible with little kids. I took the kids for a bike ride this morning, and we took a family run at lunch time and only encountered 3 sets of people, all of which crossed the street. (We got the news at lunch, it goes into effect at midnight.)
sdlaura , I'm glad you asked. The first news article wasn't very clear.. I did find another that was better, and we should be good.
The order will enforce the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s guidelines, banning nonessential social gatherings and nonessential travel. This reportedly includes travel “on foot, bicycle, scooter, automobile, or public transit.”
However, people may shop for emergency supplies, access health care, and help friends and family who need it. Exercise outdoors is permitted, though, provided people respect the CDC’s social distancing protocol –– no person-to-person contact within six feet.
Remote working is reportedly mandated unless an employee works in health care, law enforcement, or as an emergency responder. Utility providers for electricity, plumbing, and sanitation will also be required to work.
Grocery stores and pharmacies will remain open, and restaurants may allow take-out, but all service businesses are advised to keep staff and customers at least six feet apart.