She said it's just an alley between houses, no? This isn't trail walking oopsie daisy this is a kid seeing gyrating at his next door neighbors.
I can respect that some cultures, countries, and societies may see this as NBD but in suburbia America, it's not only frowned upon generally but often illegal.
I would be 10/10 scandalized if my child's first exposure was next door neighbor across the alley knowlingly flashed her jingle jangles to the neighborhood.
Okay well the point of my post was that we don't know if the neighbors have curtains. Which can happen anywhere. 🙄
Some of this is so weird.
I'm laughing bc you are right: the US was founded on rigid Protestant ideals of sex and you are definitely selling it lol.
Also I don't get what Meg is supposed to do here "STOP! my sons first exposure to sex can't be THIS WAY! NO GYRATING women in the windows!"
Lol
It's kinda funny.
I thought one of her updates said the neighbor did close the blinds? And they thought all was ok until she opened them again for her next dance lol
She said it's just an alley between houses, no? This isn't trail walking oopsie daisy this is a kid seeing gyrating at his next door neighbors.
I can respect that some cultures, countries, and societies may see this as NBD but in suburbia America, it's not only frowned upon generally but often illegal.
I would be 10/10 scandalized if my child's first exposure was next door neighbor across the alley knowlingly flashed her jingle jangles to the neighborhood.
Okay well the point of my post was that we don't know if the neighbors have curtains. Which can happen anywhere. 🙄
Some of this is so weird.
I'm laughing bc you are right: the US was founded on rigid Protestant ideals of sex and you are definitely selling it lol.
Also I don't get what Meg is supposed to do here "STOP! my sons first exposure to sex can't be THIS WAY! NO GYRATING women in the windows!"
Lol
It's kinda funny.
Did you even read the thread? The OP talks about the neighbors blinds being pulled all the way up, then in another post she says the neighbor had her blinds closed for a bit, but opened them and was doing her bit again. So yes we know the neighbor has window coverings she is CHOOSING to open for this.
The OP, Meg said she doesn’t want her 9yo sons first exposure to sexual feelings to be this. So I don’t get why this poster bringing up again is an issue. I wouldn’t want my kids first exposure to be a peeping Tom scenario either.
I, personally, would 1) be mortified, and 2) fight like hell if I got fined for walking around my house nude. The reasonable expectation is that people aren't looking into your house.
(At this point this is an academic question to me.) It's like the Friends running gag of them looking into Ugly Naked Guy's apartment. They can see him, they know they shouldn't be looking, and yet who is at fault?
People touching themselves and/or lingering and/or dancing in front of the window naked repeatedly as in this scenario. Not people simply changing for bed or forgetting now and again to close the blinds.
In high density housing areas we all know we can see into each other’s houses and are more careful. Everything is exactly lined up so everyone knows you can see in your window with zero effort. There isn’t the blanket expectation of privacy you get in the suburbs. If you want to walk around nude it’s on you to have curtains or frost your windows. Or move, I guess.
I didn’t watch Friends so I don’t know what the naked man was doing.
Living his best life. Until one ep he wasn't moving, so they fashioned a giant stick to poke him. (I think, my remembrances on that one is fuzzy.)
Okay well the point of my post was that we don't know if the neighbors have curtains. Which can happen anywhere. 🙄
Some of this is so weird.
I'm laughing bc you are right: the US was founded on rigid Protestant ideals of sex and you are definitely selling it lol.
Also I don't get what Meg is supposed to do here "STOP! my sons first exposure to sex can't be THIS WAY! NO GYRATING women in the windows!"
Lol
It's kinda funny.
Did you even read the thread? The OP talks about the neighbors blinds being pulled all the way up, then in another post she says the neighbor had her blinds closed for a bit, but opened them and was doing her bit again. So yes we know the neighbor has window coverings she is CHOOSING to open for this.
The OP, Meg said she doesn’t want her 9yo sons first exposure to sexual feelings to be this. So I don’t get why this poster bringing up again is an issue. I wouldn’t want my kids first exposure to be a peeping Tom scenario either.
No. I didn't read every single post in a 6 page thread.
Look, I (and I can tell others) think this post is coming from Meg's POV and it's really pearl clutchy.
In my opinion, which diverges from a lot in this post: the neighbors have a right to do what they want in their own home.
Meg, has a right to be offended by it.
Meg, can either, frost her windows or close her own blinds. She can go over and tell her neighbor she's makin' a peep show like in Amsterdam. She can call the cops. She can leave a note. She can do nothing. SHE is in control of her actions, thoughts, emotions and responses to the situation. She cannot control what her neighbor does about her dancing and nekkidness. And because I know this, I did not read 6 pages about this.
But this frankly RIDICULOUS idea that she can somehow control when, where and how her child's first exposure to sex is: is fucking laugh-able to me. *Edited*
Post by Jalapeñomel on Jun 28, 2021 17:40:49 GMT -5
Anecdote time!
My in laws rented a giant house on the shore in CT for a wedding years ago. We were all outside on the lawn drinking, when his grandma, butt ass naked walked to the window in her room (second story), looked out to admire the view, and then continued on.
“With sorrow—for this Court, but more, for the many millions of American women who have today lost a fundamental constitutional protection—we dissent,”
At the beginning of the thread a law was posted that if someone could see from reasonable means, the person doing the act is actually in the wrong
I posted that....can by seen by reasonable means from a public place. And even then not illegal everywhere (still haven’t passed the bar tho)
Yes, thank you.
I was reiterating that (in poor paraphrasing) to the person who insinuated a person who sees something out their own bedroom window is a Peeping Tom and a pervert.
Did you even read the thread? The OP talks about the neighbors blinds being pulled all the way up, then in another post she says the neighbor had her blinds closed for a bit, but opened them and was doing her bit again. So yes we know the neighbor has window coverings she is CHOOSING to open for this.
The OP, Meg said she doesn’t want her 9yo sons first exposure to sexual feelings to be this. So I don’t get why this poster bringing up again is an issue. I wouldn’t want my kids first exposure to be a peeping Tom scenario either.
No. I didn't read every single post in a 6 page thread.
Look, I (and I can tell others) think this post is coming from Meg's POV and it's really pearl clutchy.
In my opinion, which diverges from a lot in this post: the neighbors have a right to do what they want in their own home.
Meg, has a right to be offended by it.
Meg, can either, frost her windows or close her own blinds. She can go over and tell her neighbor she's makin' a peep show like in Amsterdam. She can call the cops. She can leave a note. She can do nothing. SHE is in control of her actions, thoughts, emotions and responses to the situation. She cannot control what her neighbor does about her dancing and nekkidness. And because I know this, I did not read 6 pages about this.
But this frankly RIDICULOUS idea that she can somehow control when, where and how her child's first exposure to sex is: is fucking laugh-able to me. *edited*
I'm not trying to be a prude, but if it were an adult man rubbing himself partially dressed in a fully open window- no blinds, no curtains, double wide window that faces the alley and other houses- and your kid saw it what would you do? Just shrug and be like "Oh well honey! Here's your first exposure to sex!" C'mon. I know I can't control everything, but I can try to avoid having him see something like this- and honestly, I don't want to see it either! It's very uncomfortable! And it's not like I'm searching it out- it was impossible to miss! lol.
It hasn't happened since (that we know of), so we haven't done or said anything. I'm really hoping I don't have to!
Although I was leaving my house today to head to the beach with a girlfriend and the kids and when we walked out back to get in the car, neighbor was out front on her stoop watering her plants and we looked up and made eye contact and I made THE MOST AWKWARD face and immediately started looking around like there was a fly buzzing around my head or something to avoid eye contact. Lol.
Guys. If I stood with my blinds open in my bedroom and gave my phone a softcore song and dance, the whole block would see it. These houses are soclosetogether. You know people can see everything. My blinds are always down in every room except for the kitchen window, which faces a brick wall.
Could be she's that oblivious, could be she doesn't care. Doesn't mean Meg is wrong for not wanting her 9yo son to catch a titty show while he's getting ready for bed.
YES. My house is 16 feet wide and when people come in the first thing they comment on is how open and big it seems. LOL. These houses are tiny.
No. I didn't read every single post in a 6 page thread.
Look, I (and I can tell others) think this post is coming from Meg's POV and it's really pearl clutchy.
In my opinion, which diverges from a lot in this post: the neighbors have a right to do what they want in their own home.
Meg, has a right to be offended by it.
Meg, can either, frost her windows or close her own blinds. She can go over and tell her neighbor she's makin' a peep show like in Amsterdam. She can call the cops. She can leave a note. She can do nothing. SHE is in control of her actions, thoughts, emotions and responses to the situation. She cannot control what her neighbor does about her dancing and nekkidness. And because I know this, I did not read 6 pages about this.
But this frankly RIDICULOUS idea that she can somehow control when, where and how her child's first exposure to sex is: is fucking laugh-able to me. *edited*
I'm not trying to be a prude, but if it were an adult man rubbing himself partially dressed in a fully open window- no blinds, no curtains, double wide window that faces the alley and other houses- and your kid saw it what would you do? Just shrug and be like "Oh well honey! Here's your first exposure to sex!" C'mon. I know I can't control everything, but I can try to avoid having him see something like this- and honestly, I don't want to see it either! It's very uncomfortable! And it's not like I'm searching it out- it was impossible to miss! lol.
No, I said that you can:" frost her windows or close her own blinds. She can go over and tell her neighbor she's makin' a peep show like in Amsterdam. She can call the cops. She can leave a note. She can do nothing. SHE is in control of her actions, thoughts, emotions and responses to the situation." I think there is a lot you can do to control if your son sees this--but I also don't think that it's possible your kid could see a lady at the pool and find her attractive and have an experience. I think he could see something on tv and have an experience.
Often times on this board (this is one of them given that my example of my neighbors went right over people's heads and they are now saying my neighborhood is mcmansions lol) people can't grasp large or broad concepts(I'm not saying you specifically)
but I'll try.
I find that there is a element of policing people's bodies that is strung out throughout this thread and an element of control that has to do with a fear of sex. I find it---as someone else mentioned a purely academic exercise at this point.
I also find that there is a very strong element from some posters that the is jumping to the conclusion that your neighbors are doing this intentionally: that they are exhibitionists: that..whatever...but b/c you have not asked them, or spoken to them, you really have absolutely no idea what is going on--and maybe you don't care, and maybe it doesn't matter--if the biggest thing you are trying to do is make sure your 9 year old kid isn't exposed to sex in this way, then honestly, all these posts talking about if she's a perv or if it's illegal or whatever her reasons are--are honestly--not relevant and
I'll go out on a limb here and they are policing her body in her home and it's bothersome to me.
You CAN ask her to stop and you CAN see if it's illegal but personally, I'd, shut my blinds, and if necessary explain to my kid there is a lady who gets nekkid next door and that I have no idea what she's doing but it involves being nekkid so don't look over there and that's why the blinds are closed and this is what living in the city is like.
Also, the way you have described it: the woman isn't dropping trow and dancing and pointing at your son or you or your husband and doing a dirty dance FOR y'all. It seems like she is unaware of your family and conducting business in her home, so...I guess again the example you gave of the man masterbating: I'd be surprised b/c I also got some Protestant in me, but when I realized he was enjoying his own damn self, and not masterbating TO me--I'd probably unclench and let it go.
Post by W.T.Faulkner on Jun 28, 2021 20:04:26 GMT -5
Omg. I don’t know if I’ve ever read a more sanctimonious post on here. MEG WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE HER NEIGHBOR’S TITTIES IN HER NINE YEAR OLD SON’S FACE NIGHTLY. It’s not us that’s not “grasping a large concept.”
Sincere congratulations to you on being cool with your hypothetical neighbor blowing a load in full view of your living room every night.
No one is policing anyone in their homes. We're trying to explain how this slice of city life works and that meganew isn't in the wrong for not wanting her child to get a T&A show from his bedroom window.
Omg. I don’t know if I’ve ever read a more sanctimonious post on here. MEG WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE HER NEIGHBOR’S TITTIES IN HER NINE YEAR OLD SON’S FACE NIGHTLY. It’s not us that’s not “grasping a large concept.”
Sincere congratulations to you on being cool with your hypothetical neighbor blowing a load in full view of your living room every night.
Did you even read the thread? The OP talks about the neighbors blinds being pulled all the way up, then in another post she says the neighbor had her blinds closed for a bit, but opened them and was doing her bit again. So yes we know the neighbor has window coverings she is CHOOSING to open for this.
The OP, Meg said she doesn’t want her 9yo sons first exposure to sexual feelings to be this. So I don’t get why this poster bringing up again is an issue. I wouldn’t want my kids first exposure to be a peeping Tom scenario either.
No. I didn't read every single post in a 6 page thread.
Look, I (and I can tell others) think this post is coming from Meg's POV and it's really pearl clutchy.
In my opinion, which diverges from a lot in this post: the neighbors have a right to do what they want in their own home.
Meg, has a right to be offended by it.
Meg, can either, frost her windows or close her own blinds. She can go over and tell her neighbor she's makin' a peep show like in Amsterdam. She can call the cops. She can leave a note. She can do nothing. SHE is in control of her actions, thoughts, emotions and responses to the situation. She cannot control what her neighbor does about her dancing and nekkidness. And because I know this, I did not read 6 pages about this.
But this frankly RIDICULOUS idea that she can somehow control when, where and how her child's first exposure to sex is: is fucking laugh-able to me. *edited*
You are talking about a kid who probably just finished 3rd grade. But yes lets talk about him jacking off in a sock, that is just weird. And no you cannot control your child's first exposure to sex, but she could control this and the neighbor could put her blinds down.
No. I didn't read every single post in a 6 page thread.
Look, I (and I can tell others) think this post is coming from Meg's POV and it's really pearl clutchy.
In my opinion, which diverges from a lot in this post: the neighbors have a right to do what they want in their own home.
Meg, has a right to be offended by it.
Meg, can either, frost her windows or close her own blinds. She can go over and tell her neighbor she's makin' a peep show like in Amsterdam. She can call the cops. She can leave a note. She can do nothing. SHE is in control of her actions, thoughts, emotions and responses to the situation. She cannot control what her neighbor does about her dancing and nekkidness. And because I know this, I did not read 6 pages about this.
But this frankly RIDICULOUS idea that she can somehow control when, where and how her child's first exposure to sex is: is fucking laugh-able to me. *edited*
You are talking about a kid who probably just finished 3rd grade. But yes lets talk about him jacking off in a sock, that is just weird. And no you cannot control your child's first exposure to sex, but she could control this and the neighbor could put her blinds down.
I found the masturbation comment especially uncomfortable
No one is policing anyone in their homes. We're trying to explain how this slice of city life works and that meganew isn't in the wrong for not wanting her child to get a T&A show from his bedroom window.
FFS. Except I've said like 3-4 times I ALSO don't think she's wrong AND I've said 3-4 times what I think she can DO about it.
The only thing I've said is that I don't think the lady is wrong. Or a fucking pervert, or that she's doing it intentionally.
It is policing a person's body to go over to their house and tell them how to behave in their own home, in regards to their body, so that YOU can be comfortable in yours--I don't care if you think it's not. It is. It's not even subtle. Especially since multiple people even mentioned that it might be illegal, a law was thrown out and people seriously mentioned calling the cops. ALL OF THAT ::WAVES ARMS:: IS POLICING. THATS THE DEFINITION OF IT.
Omg. I don’t know if I’ve ever read a more sanctimonious post on here. MEG WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE HER NEIGHBOR’S TITTIES IN HER NINE YEAR OLD SON’S FACE NIGHTLY. It’s not us that’s not “grasping a large concept.”
Sincere congratulations to you on being cool with your hypothetical neighbor blowing a load in full view of your living room every night.
You are talking about a kid who probably just finished 3rd grade. But yes lets talk about him jacking off in a sock, that is just weird. And no you cannot control your child's first exposure to sex, but she could control this and the neighbor could put her blinds down.
I found the masturbation comment especially uncomfortable
It wasn’t my favorite! But maybe I’m just not grasping the bigger concept? Lol
No one is policing anyone in their homes. We're trying to explain how this slice of city life works and that meganew isn't in the wrong for not wanting her child to get a T&A show from his bedroom window.
FFS. Except I've said like 3-4 times I ALSO don't think she's wrong AND I've said 3-4 times what I think she can DO about it.
The only thing I've said is that I don't think the lady is wrong. Or a fucking pervert, or that she's doing it intentionally.
It is policing a person's body to go over to their house and tell them how to behave in their own home, in regards to their body, so that YOU can be comfortable in yours--I don't care if you think it's not. It is. It's not even subtle. Especially since multiple people even mentioned that it might be illegal, a law was thrown out and people seriously mentioned calling the cops. ALL OF THAT ::WAVES ARMS:: IS POLICING. THATS THE DEFINITION OF IT.
But I’m not asking her to change what she’s doing in her home, I’m asking her to put her blinds down.
And I haven’t even asked her because I might not need to!
I feel like this was a time when you maybe should have read the whole thread?
FFS. Except I've said like 3-4 times I ALSO don't think she's wrong AND I've said 3-4 times what I think she can DO about it.
The only thing I've said is that I don't think the lady is wrong. Or a fucking pervert, or that she's doing it intentionally.
It is policing a person's body to go over to their house and tell them how to behave in their own home, in regards to their body, so that YOU can be comfortable in yours--I don't care if you think it's not. It is. It's not even subtle. Especially since multiple people even mentioned that it might be illegal, a law was thrown out and people seriously mentioned calling the cops. ALL OF THAT ::WAVES ARMS:: IS POLICING. THATS THE DEFINITION OF IT.
But I’m not asking her to change what she’s doing in her home, I’m asking her to put her blinds down.
And I haven’t even asked her because I might not need to!
I feel like this was a time when you maybe should have read the whole thread?
In large part, she wasn't responding to you, but to the one that started going on about perverts.
You are talking about a kid who probably just finished 3rd grade. But yes lets talk about him jacking off in a sock, that is just weird. And no you cannot control your child's first exposure to sex, but she could control this and the neighbor could put her blinds down.
I found the masturbation comment especially uncomfortable
:::sigh:: I have to go and do other things so I can't keep doing this, but is it that surprising that you found it uncomfortable? You are clearly uncomfortable about sex. You believe the woman is a "pervert," so it's going to be easy for you to paint me that way too. You can stop with that--and you can stop trying to flip it around that I'm "the lady in the window" or some other nonsense.
I have said over and over that I agree with Meg, that it's weird and and there are things she can do about it in her own home--like seriously I've never said anything about not doing anything about it or shielding her son's eyes or innocence.
But no, I think the lady should be able to dance naked in her house too--I think Meg can tell her it bothers her, she can ask her to stop. She can buy her blinds! The lady can ignore all that if she wants.
I found the masturbation comment especially uncomfortable
:::sigh:: I have to go and do other things so I can't keep doing this, but is it that surprising that you found it uncomfortable? You are clearly uncomfortable about sex. You believe the woman is a "pervert," so it's going to be easy for you to paint me that way too. You can stop with that--and you can stop trying to flip it around that I'm "the lady in the window" or some other nonsense.
I have said over and over that I agree with Meg, that it's weird and and there are things she can do about it in her own home--like seriously I've never said anything about not doing anything about it or shielding her son's eyes or innocence.
But no, I think the lady should be able to dance naked in her house too--I think Meg can tell her it bothers her, she can ask her to stop. She can buy her blinds! The lady can ignore all that if she wants.
Girl no.
Making a vulgar comment about a pre pubescent child masturbating was disgusting.
It's great to be sex positive but that comment was really not okay.
Eta asking if you're the neighbor was clearly a joke because you're something