Wwyd- neighbor nudity

[meganew]

That title should get some traction. Lol.

Wwyd in this situation- say there’s a house directly behind your house, it’s only separated by a small alley. Your 9 year old son’s window looks directly into your neighbor’s second floor window, and they like to be nude. A lot. With the blinds open. And not just like, twisted open, but pulled all the way up with no curtains.

H has an office in the back of the house and his window looks directly into the same room, and he’s seen who I think is the husband walking around completely nude. The wife walking around completely nude. And then tonight he was closing up his computers and shutting things down, looks up, and she has set up her phone in the window and is dancing in lingerie, taking her boobs out and talking into the camera. But again, it’s night, they have the lights on super bright, and the blinds are completely pulled up- it’s a direct shot into their house. They HAVE to know everyone can see them. H immediately runs into Ollie’s room to see if his curtains are up, and thankfully they’re all down and he’s in bed reading like “What?” I don’t care what anyone does in their own home, but I would really prefer if that’s not my 9 year old’s introduction to sex.

Wwyd? We met them when we moved in and they seemed nice- am I totally overstepping to be like “hi! We’re totally sex positive, yay for healthy sex lives! But I would really like to not be a part of yours, so please close the blinds?”

[TR]

Keep your windows covered? lol It’s not a lifestyle I’d choose, but you can’t really control what people do in their home. It’s not like they don’t know they have windows lol

[TR]

Can you put frosted stuff on your son’s window? So he gets light but not a peep show?

[mx27]

Can you keep your blinds/curtains closed?

[tacokick]

I think they must want people to see.

Are they visible to anyone else? Or just you? If you have plausible deniability you could go the classic Dear Abby route and send them a little note that implies it must be a mistake on their part and you just want to give them a heads up.

I would frost your windows with that removal frosting stuff. I would be annoyed though because although it is their house it does effect other people. I wouldn’t want to have to lose light because they are exhibitionists.

[meganew]

Jun 25, 2021 20:49:09 GMT -5 TR said:

Keep your windows covered? lol It’s not a lifestyle I’d choose, but you can’t really control what people do in their home. It’s not like they don’t know they have windows lol

I know, and thankfully Ollie’s curtain is on this chain pulley that’s loud as shit when he cranks it open so I’ll have a heads up for what will be a very long list of uncomfortable questions, lol. But whyyyyyyyyyyyy. Why. Why!

[TR]

Jun 25, 2021 20:55:20 GMT -5 meganew said:

Jun 25, 2021 20:49:09 GMT -5 TR said:

Keep your windows covered? lol It’s not a lifestyle I’d choose, but you can’t really control what people do in their home. It’s not like they don’t know they have windows lol

I know, and thankfully Ollie’s curtain is on this chain pulley that’s loud as shit when he cranks it open so I’ll have a heads up for what will be a very long list of uncomfortable questions, lol. But whyyyyyyyyyyyy. Why. Why!

I’d seriously try that peel and stick frosted stuff. That way he can’t peek if he gets curious lol and you could remove it if they move.

[meganew]

Jun 25, 2021 20:52:11 GMT -5 tacokick said:

I think they must want people to see.

Are they visible to anyone else? Or just you? If you have plausible deniability you could go the classic Dear Abby route and send them a little note that implies it must be a mistake on their part and you just want to give them a heads up.

I would frost your windows with that removal frosting stuff. I would be annoyed though because although it is their house it does effect other people. I wouldn’t want to have to lose light because they are exhibitionists.

The frosted glass is a good idea, at least for Ollie’s room. And it has to be visible to at least the houses on either side of us. The windows in the front are double wide- it’s not even regular sized windows. You can see the whole room. Again, I’m all for people getting their rocks off however they want- but our neighbors on the other side have grandkids who stay over often and there’s a bunch of kids in the houses on either side of them. It just seems icky to potentially be exposing yourself not just to adults but kids, too.

[fernweh]

I don’t think there is anything to do. They are in their home. Keeps your blinds closed or frost the windows, not ideal but you can’t make them wear clothes

[mccallister84]

I mean I agree that I wouldn’t love it but I don’t think there’s anything you can do…

[Patsy Baloney]

Start cheering.

[meganew]

Jun 25, 2021 21:00:03 GMT -5 fernweh said:

I don’t think there is anything to do. They are in their home. Keeps your blinds closed or frost the windows, not ideal but you can’t make them wear clothes

If it was just nudity I honestly wouldn’t care- every one has body parts, it’s not the view I’d wish to have outside my window, but that I could totally shrug off. The touching yourself and sex stuff? That I’m like eehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no thank you.

[cleo29]

Was your house empty for a bit before you bought it? I wonder if they got used to that and so were not putting down their blinds or closing curtains.

[meganew]

Jun 25, 2021 21:10:03 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Was your house empty for a bit before you bought it? I wonder if they got used to that and so were not putting down their blinds or closing curtains.

No, it was on unoccupied for maybe a month- but it’s rowhomes in center city, so lots of people live in viewing range. Lol.

[cleo29]

Jun 25, 2021 21:11:54 GMT -5 meganew said:

Jun 25, 2021 21:10:03 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Was your house empty for a bit before you bought it? I wonder if they got used to that and so were not putting down their blinds or closing curtains.

No, it was on unoccupied for maybe a month- but it’s rowhomes in center city, so lots of people live in viewing range. Lol.

OK, so they definitely like giving people a show. lol I think the frosted window is the best option that will still allow him to get light in his room. 

[meganew]

Jun 25, 2021 21:11:44 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Sex positivity is great, but this is not that, I agree, they are putting on a show. I’m sorry:( So bizarre. I hate for you to have to frost your windows and keep your blinds down just so you don’t have to watch these people, it’s intrusive and very in your face. I don’t know what laws are pertaining to this, but maybe you could look into it or ask the non emergency police number?

I’m so, so hoping that they’re just oblivious and it’s not a super regular occurrence. H just went to check and the blinds are actually closed now. I don’t think I’ve seen the blinds down since we’ve moved in.

[tacokick]

Jun 25, 2021 20:59:03 GMT -5 meganew said:

Jun 25, 2021 20:52:11 GMT -5 tacokick said:

I think they must want people to see.

Are they visible to anyone else? Or just you? If you have plausible deniability you could go the classic Dear Abby route and send them a little note that implies it must be a mistake on their part and you just want to give them a heads up.

I would frost your windows with that removal frosting stuff. I would be annoyed though because although it is their house it does effect other people. I wouldn’t want to have to lose light because they are exhibitionists.

The frosted glass is a good idea, at least for Ollie’s room. And it has to be visible to at least the houses on either side of us. The windows in the front are double wide- it’s not even regular sized windows. You can see the whole room. Again, I’m all for people getting their rocks off however they want- but our neighbors on the other side have grandkids who stay over often and there’s a bunch of kids in the houses on either side of them. It just seems icky to potentially be exposing yourself not just to adults but kids, too.

It is icky.

It can feel like you are being a prude or whatever but you’re not consenting to this display, it is being forced on you. That’s not okay. Some places actually have laws against this for that reason. It’s their home but at a certain point they are infringing on your rights to enjoy your own home.

[shopgirl07]

A lot of towns and cities have ordinances that prohibit this. I think I would send them a friendly-ish, anonymous note saying I’m sure it’s a mistake, blah, blah, blah but they might want to close their blinds.

[just]

So I am not a lawyer, nor do I even play one on the internet, but I believe in many states, nudity is illegal if it can be seen by a reasonable audience from a public place.

It seems unlikely that the visibility from windows inside your home would count, and I can't quite understand the layout from your posts (multiple homes can see this?) whether this would be seen from a public location.

www.hg.org/legal-articles/nudity-and-public-decency-laws-in-america-31193 (obviously not actual law advice).

To be honest, I'm sure our neighbors have caught some views of us at one point or another, though we do try to keep the blinds closed

[babsbunny]

I was going to suggest you make money with a new utube channel but some quick research suggests it is likely illegal. (jk)

You could frost half the window and say it is for his privacy.

[cinnamoncox0]

I’m not a prude by any stretch but this is something else. If it’s that close they know you’ve got kids and I find it extra gross, if they’re just trying to scandalize adults fine but still trashy. Kids that’s a big deal. When houses are that close it’s like flashing or reverse peeping Tom.

I’m sorry I think the frosted window is good but I’d look into clear view nudity/sex acts. Hopefully your son doesn’t get a show I’d be 😬😬😬

[tacokick]

Jun 25, 2021 21:20:39 GMT -5 just said:

So I am not a lawyer, nor do I even play one on the internet, but I believe in many states, nudity is illegal if it can be seen by a reasonable audience from a public place.

It seems unlikely that the visibility from windows inside your home would count, and I can't quite understand the layout from your posts (multiple homes can see this?) whether this would be seen from a public location.

www.hg.org/legal-articles/nudity-and-public-decency-laws-in-america-31193 (obviously not actual law advice).

To be honest, I'm sure our neighbors have caught some views of us at one point or another, though we do try to keep the blinds closed

I think she lives in a rowhouse/townhouse type situation so a lot of houses very close together.

Since she can see it from their alley, that might be considered public enough. I bet you can see it from the street too.

[spindle92]

Back when I was married, I guess I should be thankful that some of you were not my neighbor or the cops would have been called all the time.

The only reason I don't roam around naked now is because my sister and I live together.

[Deleted]

I don't think you should have to keep your curtains closed or actually buy a product for this.

I think this would be considered indecent exposure. I'm not an attorney or police officer but I think even if you're in your own home, if someone can easily see nudity, it's considered exposure.

I had a friend who was a police officer once tell me having sex in a car could be considered indecent exposure if you can see through the windows so I think your home is the same.

I honestly would maybe send an anonymous letter, or even ask advice from a police officer (not saying call 911 lol)

Eta and I'm someone who prefers nudity at home but I keep my curtains closed if I'm nude

[Deleted]

Jun 25, 2021 21:20:39 GMT -5 just said:

So I am not a lawyer, nor do I even play one on the internet, but I believe in many states, nudity is illegal if it can be seen by a reasonable audience from a public place.

It seems unlikely that the visibility from windows inside your home would count, and I can't quite understand the layout from your posts (multiple homes can see this?) whether this would be seen from a public location.

www.hg.org/legal-articles/nudity-and-public-decency-laws-in-america-31193 (obviously not actual law advice).

To be honest, I'm sure our neighbors have caught some views of us at one point or another, though we do try to keep the blinds closed

Yes, this

[maudefindlay]

So a councilman in my city was charged with a misdemeanor public indecency. A neighbor was looking out their window towards councilman's house and saw him nude in clear view. The below describes why he was charged, I removed names.

The statute under which x was charged says a person commits public indecency when, in a place other than a public place, appears in a state of nudity with the intent to be seen by people other than those invited to be there or who live there, y said in an earlier interview.

So even without the sexual part, sounds like being nude in front of windows visible to others is illegal. Back in my single days I lived in a downstairs apartment and my parking spot faced the upstairs neighbor's patio. She was out there most mornings drinking coffee when I left for work and she was completely naked. I did nothing, but had she been doing something sexual or had I had kids I would have told her it needed to stop.

I think you do have to have an uncomfortable discussion and let them know you and your kids have seen unwanted scenes, which is very kind given I think they have to know they are visible.

[maudefindlay]

Eta this same councilman got in trouble again for watching porn on a big screen TV that was near his front window. It was said he was doing this to get back at the neighbor in the original complaint. Luckily his ass got voted out of office and we have our first black councilman in his place.

[felicity]

Jun 26, 2021 8:44:07 GMT -5 spindle92 said:

Back when I was married, I guess I should be thankful that some of you were not my neighbor or the cops would have been called all the time.

The only reason I don't roam around naked now is because my sister and I live together.

So you walked around naked, at night, in brightly lit rooms right in front of windows with your blinds open? Doing provocative things? Where any neighbors, children, and people passing by would have no choice but to see if they happened to glance at your house?

She's not talking about being naked in your home where someone would have to go to some effort to see in your windows. This is something else. 

[eddy]

I vote frosted windows because it wouldn’t be worth it (to me) to pursue legal avenues.

and ai would just frost the kid’s window since that seems to be your concern. 

[maudefindlay]

I love natural light and seeing the outdoors too much to frost them up. Neighbors can stop doing illegal things and frost their windows.