TX GQP resolves Biden not legitimately elected

[basilosaurus]

Utter fucking dangerous and insane.

And that's not all!

platform calls for the complete abolition of abortion, prohibiting "the teaching of sex education, sexual health, or sexual choice or identity in any public school in any grade whatsoever," and refers to homosexuality as "an abnormal lifestyle choice." The platform also calls for Obergefell v. Hodges, the 2015 Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide, to be overturned.

Reiterated their right to secede to which I say good riddance.

They even booed Cornyn. If he's not far enough right...

www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-republican-party-passes-resolution-denying-legitimacy-of-bidens-victory-in-presidential-election/

[ECB]

These people are insane. And i don’t understand the desire for no sex Ed or sexual health?? I’d LOVE for them to secede. Don’t let the door hit ya’….

How this country is falling backwards, but yet these people also believe they’re “patriots”

[mrsukyankee]

I feel for all those who are living in Texas and don't believe in this, can't move and will be harmed by it. I actually don't want them to succeed as it will be awful for far too many humans who don't deserve to live in that environment.

[ECB]

This is a piece of work too:

“In their resolution, the Texas Republicans inveighed against potential age restrictions, stating without citing any evidence that "those under 21 are most likely to be victims of violent crime and thus most likely to need to defend themselves." The resolution also said "red-flag" laws violate citizens' due process, and "all gun control is a violation of the Second Amendment and our God given rights."

Guns are God given rights???

[underwaterrhymes]

These people are fucking nuts.

[underwaterrhymes]

Jun 21, 2022 6:22:39 GMT -5 ECB said:

These people are insane. And i don’t understand the desire for no sex Ed or sexual health?? I’d LOVE for them to secede. Don’t let the door hit ya’….

How this country is falling backwards, but yet these people also believe they’re “patriots”

Texas: the state where you can only have six dildos, but as many guns as you want.

[abs]

Good Lord these people are insane.

Trust not all Texans think this way. In fact the majority don't. I have no interest in Texas becoming it's own country. We are held hostage by Paxton, Abbott, Cruz, Patrick, and their loony band of idiots. The monthly beat up of all Texans though is always fun to read.

[underwaterrhymes]

Apparently they’re also trying to implement a state-level electoral college, where rural votes where fewer people live will count more than urban ones where more people live.

[fumbalina]

If Texas was as conservative as the internet seems to believe, there would be no need to gerrymander it into ridiculous pieces. There are plenty of liberals, less insane conservatives, and even those who are pro-gun and pro-LGBT. The more people say "Texas is super conservative and leave," the more those voices are silenced.

Beto has done a lot of grass roots campaigning and has tons of support from small towns to large cities.

[Velar Fricative]

I shouldn't be surprised, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the more purple Texas becomes, the more these extremists behave like this and propose more ideas to avoid losing power. The state-level "electoral college" is a perfect example of that.

Also, Dan Crenshaw was assaulted at the convention. No one deserves that, but it's an example of how, no matter how much you try to appease these people for political points, they're ready to come after you the moment you deviate ever so slightly from their agenda. Reminds me of the meme about how a voter never expected the leopard to eat THEIR face despite voting for someone running under the Leopard Eating Faces party.

[cattledogkisses]

Jun 21, 2022 6:24:31 GMT -5 mrsukyankee said:

I feel for all those who are living in Texas and don't believe in this, can't move and will be harmed by it. I actually don't want them to succeed as it will be awful for far too many humans who don't deserve to live in that environment.

I was just in Austin this past weekend and seeing everyone out celebrating Pride Month was so fun.

It was also a strange juxtaposition when at the same time you can see the Capitol where elected officials are trying their hardest to take away rights from LGBTQ+ people and women. 

[AJL]

I really do hate when Texas gets brought up on this board, because I know that people who do not live here or have never lived here don't quite understand that this type of governmental behavior and control is terrifying and a reality for us who do live here. 

This isn't just some bat-shit crazy political talking points that can be brushed aside as nonsense. When it does get brushed off is when we get presidents like Trump. It's how we get Abbott, Patrick, and Paxton for another term. It's how we erode and destroy human and civil rights. 

Don't for one second think that the Texas GOP is putting on to paper what the GOP-controlled states of the rest of the country wouldn't do in a heartbeat. More than half of the states in this country are red and they are getting more and more radical every day. If you live in any one of those states, good fucking luck, because you're next. 

You can make my state a joke all day long and that makes you an asshole. You can say that Texas wants to secede and "to that, I say good riddance." That also makes you an asshole. (And btw, Texas can't legally secede no matter what our politicians say, so it's not even a real concern, but that doesn't mean the assholery of the comments is any less assholey). We have nearly 30 million people in this state and we're all fucked (even the ones who voted Republican.) 

We are on the precipice, nationally, of some very scary shit, and we're falling fast. I'm saying this now: Trump has a very good chance of winning the presidency in 2024 if he chooses to run (which all rumors seem to point to it that he will.) The red states are laying the ground work for that. We are going to lose this democracy in a very Hitler-esque way. Don't come at me with "that can't happen here" because it sure as shit can. It's already happening. 

Take this very seriously. Speak about this very seriously. Research what the other red states are trying to do. We're all frogs in the pot and that water is getting real hot.

[mskitkat]

AJL this Georgia resident is standing and applauding.

[erbear]

Jun 21, 2022 6:55:47 GMT -5 abs said:

Good Lord these people are insane.

Trust not all Texans think this way. In fact the majority don't. I have no interest in Texas becoming it's own country. We are held hostage by Paxton, Abbott, Cruz, Patrick, and their loony band of idiots. The monthly beat up of all Texans though is always fun to read.

Can I ask a serious question, since I know a handful of Texans and they are relatively liberal. I keep hearing this — that the state is being held hostage by the shit politicians. Are there just that many more Trumpy idiots, or is voter suppression keeping your guys from having a shot? What can we do?

[abs]

Jun 21, 2022 10:35:18 GMT -5 erbear said:

Jun 21, 2022 6:55:47 GMT -5 abs said:

Good Lord these people are insane.

Trust not all Texans think this way. In fact the majority don't. I have no interest in Texas becoming it's own country. We are held hostage by Paxton, Abbott, Cruz, Patrick, and their loony band of idiots. The monthly beat up of all Texans though is always fun to read.

Can I ask a serious question, since I know a handful of Texans and they are relatively liberal. I keep hearing this — that the state is being held hostage by the shit politicians. Are there just that many more Trumpy idiots, or is voter suppression keeping your guys from having a shot? What can we do?

There is massive voter suppression and the state is Gerrymandered to hell. The Republicans are scared. So many laws were passed recently making it even harder to vote. It’s truly terrifying and other states are watching. Now that they know they can get away with if they will try, too.

Thank you for asking what you can do. During elections you can work phone banks for the Democrats. Beto isn’t that effect but I think he does have a (small) chance to win. You can keep telling your state reps you support voting rights that would help at a national level. All small things but they can help if enough people want to take action.

[Michelle]

Jun 21, 2022 10:45:06 GMT -5 abs said:

Jun 21, 2022 10:35:18 GMT -5 erbear said:

Can I ask a serious question, since I know a handful of Texans and they are relatively liberal. I keep hearing this — that the state is being held hostage by the shit politicians. Are there just that many more Trumpy idiots, or is voter suppression keeping your guys from having a shot? What can we do?

There is massive voter suppression and the state is Gerrymandered to hell. The Republicans are scared. So many laws were passed recently making it even harder to vote. It’s truly terrifying and other states are watching. Now that they know they can get away with if they will try, too.

Thank you for asking what you can do. During elections you can work phone banks for the Democrats. Beto isn’t that effect but I think he does have a (small) chance to win. You can keep telling your state reps you support voting rights that would help at a national level. All small things but they can help if enough people want to take action.

The bolded statement needs to be on repeat.

Remember another post just a few days ago showing how Houstonians worked together to significantly reduce homelessness? That is also happening in this state. And in Houston, companies, city officials, etc. worked together during Nov. 2020 election to make sure everyone had the ability to vote in spite of the pandemic - most of the recent laws that were passed were done so because of voter turnout in blue areas like Houston. The city had 24 hour voting instead of 7a-7p voting, there was a voting center set up in the med center so medical professionals could go vote and come back to care for patients much easier, and the 24 hour voting was near the med center for that same purpose - so night shift healthcare workers could get out to vote.

There was drive-up voting to help prevent the spread of covid.

I'm forgetting something.

The recent laws were passed to eliminate all of those options and ease voter access.

[TR]

Jun 21, 2022 10:35:18 GMT -5 erbear said:

Jun 21, 2022 6:55:47 GMT -5 abs said:

Good Lord these people are insane.

Trust not all Texans think this way. In fact the majority don't. I have no interest in Texas becoming it's own country. We are held hostage by Paxton, Abbott, Cruz, Patrick, and their loony band of idiots. The monthly beat up of all Texans though is always fun to read.

Can I ask a serious question, since I know a handful of Texans and they are relatively liberal. I keep hearing this — that the state is being held hostage by the shit politicians. Are there just that many more Trumpy idiots, or is voter suppression keeping your guys from having a shot? What can we do?

Voter suppression for sure. The gerrymandering here is terrible, but that doesn't explain US Senate seats. This is an article that lists out the way TX suppresses Democratic voters: www.aclutx.org/en/news/5-ways-texas-suppresses-vote-and-how-make-your-vote-count

And one on the latest voter suppression bill passed last year: www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/texass-proposed-voter-suppression-law

[AJL]

For the Texas state legislature, gerrymandering explains the political affiliation of its members. There are 23 Republican and 12 Democrat reps; nearly 2:1 make up that reflects the current districts. Our senate is slightly more balanced --- 18 Reps and 13 Dems.

We're a red state. Liberal Austin does not out vote the red communities in the larger cities and rural counties. *shrug* It's not really a mystery.

[NewOrleans]

Jun 21, 2022 8:27:59 GMT -5 AJL said:

I really do hate when Texas gets brought up on this board, because I know that people who do not live here or have never lived here don't quite understand that this type of governmental behavior and control is terrifying and a reality for us who do live here. 

I absolutely believe this and believe that TX is an oppressed state.  

I equally believe there is something uniquely Texan with its established culture, though. The guns as a way of life? The Evangelical stuff? The staunch belief in conservatism which is unfortunately NOT just a white people thing, as I have seen a lot of journalism covering how the GOP is gaining huge Latino support in TX? 

I definitely don’t want to argue with you as you are in the trenches so I hope it doesn’t come off that way.  I guess I don’t understand what makes the place tick, though.  

Do you have any recommendations of articles about what Beto is up to strategically on the ground? Or what is being said about movement toward the left and/or purpling of TX? Everything I’ve seen is really pessimistic about that. 

[basilosaurus]

I was a born and raised Floridian, so I think I get the "not all." I also saw my sister, in TX, go through a pre-cancerous pregnancy that she would not have had that option now for her health.

Last time I talked with her she defended her trumper friends for being her better friends despite them voting against her health because they came around to her house while I was 10,000 miles away. But I'm still going to raise the red flag that this is what they're doing!

And I will do what I can to support those against these assholes.

I will still say this is what is going on in that state, and you can't do it alone, so I'll keep raising awareness because all the help is needed.

Yes, I was callows about secession, and I let my emotions get in the way. Please forgive.

[AJL]

Jun 21, 2022 12:01:24 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Jun 21, 2022 8:27:59 GMT -5 AJL said:

I really do hate when Texas gets brought up on this board, because I know that people who do not live here or have never lived here don't quite understand that this type of governmental behavior and control is terrifying and a reality for us who do live here. 

I absolutely believe this and believe that TX is an oppressed state.  

I equally believe there is something uniquely Texan with its established culture, though. The guns as a way of life? The Evangelical stuff? The staunch belief in conservatism which is unfortunately NOT just a white people thing, as I have seen a lot of journalism covering how the GOP is gaining huge Latino support in TX? 

I definitely don’t want to argue with you as you are in the trenches so I hope it doesn’t come off that way.  I guess I don’t understand what makes the place tick, though.  

Do you have any recommendations of articles about what Beto is up to strategically on the ground? Or what is being said about movement toward the left and/or purpling of TX? Everything I’ve seen is really pessimistic about that. 

"Guns as a way of life..."
"The Evangelical stuff..."
"The staunch belief in conservatism..."

This is how Texas has been for decades and the number one reason is money.

The gun lobby = money for our legislators. Large evangelical congregations with rich parishioners = money to their churches and rich members who have the means to run for office. Conservatism = capitalism. Progressive laws that benefit the middle and lower classes are seen as financially harmful for the rich. If you support and vote for the conservative, small-government (which we know only means small government when it benefits the wealthy), "family values" candidate, then presumably your financial interests will be protected and even increased. 

"GOP is gaining huge Latino support in TX"

I am Latina. I'm the daughter of a Mexican immigrant who came to Texas at the age of 2. Her parents were capitalists. They believed that they had an obligation to serve their community and do what they could to alleviate pain and suffering, but they also believed that you render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. They had no qualms about making money and the U.S. afforded them that opportunity. I'm confident that my grandparents often voted for the conservative candidate.

Depending on the country from where you immigrated, arguably the U.S. is still your best opportunity for economic success. If you were thriving in your home country, why would you ever leave? So that being said, Latinos in the U.S. are not a monolith. "Latinos" represent 33 different countries. Over 62 million people in the U.S. identify as Latino or Hispanic. That's a lot of people to assume would have the same political ideals and goals. It's unrealistic and a bit racist to expect that we'd all agree on who to vote for because we're Latino.

Contrary to what this board believes, no one ever votes against their interests. People always vote for the candidate they believe supports what they believe. 


"articles about what Beto is up to strategically on the ground..."
"movement toward the left and/or purpling of TX"

I don't have anything off the top of my head. I have to Google that just like everyone else. My honest, realistic opinion? He will lose the race for governor. If Abbott can appease the less radical Republicans with gun legislation that appears to deter AR-15 massacres, then he'll win again. Beto has made anti-gun comments that have stuck hard with moderate or centrist Republican voters. They're not going to forget that. We don't have the blue numbers to overtake the republican vote without swinging some of those votes over to the Dems. Dems in Texas have historically been week and nothing has come along to change that. 

So I'm not expecting blue leadership come Nov. 8.

[NewOrleans]

Jun 21, 2022 13:09:22 GMT -5 AJL said:

Jun 21, 2022 12:01:24 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

I absolutely believe this and believe that TX is an oppressed state.  

I equally believe there is something uniquely Texan with its established culture, though. The guns as a way of life? The Evangelical stuff? The staunch belief in conservatism which is unfortunately NOT just a white people thing, as I have seen a lot of journalism covering how the GOP is gaining huge Latino support in TX? 

I definitely don’t want to argue with you as you are in the trenches so I hope it doesn’t come off that way.  I guess I don’t understand what makes the place tick, though.  

Do you have any recommendations of articles about what Beto is up to strategically on the ground? Or what is being said about movement toward the left and/or purpling of TX? Everything I’ve seen is really pessimistic about that. 

"articles about what Beto is up to strategically on the ground..."
"movement toward the left and/or purpling of TX"

I don't have anything off the top of my head. I have to Google that just like everyone else. My honest, realistic opinion? He will lose the race for governor. If Abbott can appease the less radical Republicans with gun legislation that appears to deter AR-15 massacres, then he'll win again. Beto has made anti-gun comments that have stuck hard with moderate or centrist Republican voters. They're not going to forget that. We don't have the blue numbers to overtake the republican vote without swinging some of those votes over to the Dems. Dems in Texas have historically been week and nothing has come along to change that. 

So I'm not expecting blue leadership come Nov. 8.

I really appreciate the thoughtful reply. 

when you said this in your first reply, “Research what the other red states are trying to do,” I thought you meant like what D’s were doing in other red states to try to sway people which is why I asked about strategy, but now I see you were not being optimistic but rather referring to how TX is just doing first what other red states intend.  


And I agree that it is naive af to view TX (and FL) as anomalous freakshows because this stuff is the *national* GOP platform, and because DeSantis may be the next POTUS. 

[Michelle]

I don't get as offended about the anti-Texas comments because I make the same comments about Florida, and of course I know there are exceptions what seems to have emerged as the rule there.

If you live in Austin, Houston, San Antonio or Dallas, the state feels more purple. Here is a map as to why:

(2020 Voting results): www.politico.com/2020-election/results/texas/

The majority of the population lives in those big cities:




And here is more on reactive Gerrymandering maintaining GOP strongholds and weakening the voices of POC and liberals:


www.texastribune.org/2021/10/25/2021-texas-redistricting-explained/

It's definitely an oppressed state.

[fumbalina]

Jun 21, 2022 11:54:34 GMT -5 AJL said:

For the Texas state legislature, gerrymandering explains the political affiliation of its members. There are 23 Republican and 12 Democrat reps; nearly 2:1 make up that reflects the current districts. Our senate is slightly more balanced --- 18 Reps and 13 Dems.

We're a red state. Liberal Austin does not out vote the red communities in the larger cities and rural counties. *shrug* It's not really a mystery.

The reason behind this is twofold. First, older people tend to vote R, and because they are older are more likely to be able to make it to polling places with little to no interference. Secondly, it is statements like the above ones that make those who are not conservative feel like there is not a lot of point. Making an effort to go vote when it is going to be "thrown away," feels harder than it should. 

[AJL]

Jun 21, 2022 14:07:39 GMT -5 fumbalina said:

Jun 21, 2022 11:54:34 GMT -5 AJL said:

For the Texas state legislature, gerrymandering explains the political affiliation of its members. There are 23 Republican and 12 Democrat reps; nearly 2:1 make up that reflects the current districts. Our senate is slightly more balanced --- 18 Reps and 13 Dems.

We're a red state. Liberal Austin does not out vote the red communities in the larger cities and rural counties. *shrug* It's not really a mystery.

 Secondly, it is statements like the above ones that make those who are not conservative feel like there is not a lot of point. Making an effort to go vote when it is going to be "thrown away," feels harder than it should. 

I'm sure it does but it's sadly the truth. 

[wildrice]

Well I definitely don't want Texas to secede, since my parents and my sister and her family live there. But I may never get over my frustration that they all chose to move there in 2015. There was nothing forcing them to do that. Texas is certainly not the only bad state - I used to live in Iowa and loved my time there but thank the universe regularly that I moved away from there, too. Wonderful, caring, liberal people live everywhere but when the state government is run by crazy conservatives, it's hard to love or support the state overall.

I find it nuts that while testimonies about Jan 6th and the lack of validity to claims about Trump winning the election are being disputed by people pretty high up in his administration are going on, these politicians decided to just disregard 18 months of evidence and bring up this lie again. Of all times to do this, NOW?

[fumbalina]

Jun 21, 2022 15:47:03 GMT -5 wildrice said:

Well I definitely don't want Texas to secede, since my parents and my sister and her family live there. But I may never get over my frustration that they all chose to move there in 2015. There was nothing forcing them to do that. Texas is certainly not the only bad state - I used to live in Iowa and loved my time there but thank the universe regularly that I moved away from there, too. Wonderful, caring, liberal people live everywhere but when the state government is run by crazy conservatives, it's hard to love or support the state overall.

I find it nuts that while testimonies about Jan 6th and the lack of validity to claims about Trump winning the election are being disputed by people pretty high up in his administration are going on, these politicians decided to just disregard 18 months of evidence and bring up this lie again. Of all times to do this, NOW?

They are having to do this to distract people from the current investigations that get worse and worse daily, and the impending failure of the grid. They say it won't but it almost failed when it was 30 degrees cooler, so yeah it will. 

[isabel]

Jun 21, 2022 7:57:24 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

I shouldn't be surprised, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the more purple Texas becomes, the more these extremists behave like this and propose more ideas to avoid losing power. The state-level "electoral college" is a perfect example of that.

Also, Dan Crenshaw was assaulted at the convention. No one deserves that, but it's an example of how, no matter how much you try to appease these people for political points, they're ready to come after you the moment you deviate ever so slightly from their agenda. Reminds me of the meme about how a voter never expected the leopard to eat THEIR face despite voting for someone running under the Leopard Eating Faces party.

Not that I feel bad for Crenshaw and Cornyn, but I do think it must be awfully scary to be those people who were once lauded and are now targets of the same people. The party has just become so incredibly extreme.

[ellipses84]

I was going to start a post the other day but all I could think was WTF Texas!?! I lived in Houston for a few years that spanned the 2016 election but lived on the west coast before and after. It’s scary how TX leadership has fallen so much further into Authoritarianism. Abbott, Cruz, etc. focusing on their political agenda over the well-being of their constituents is nothing new. Unfortunately the R agenda is even more extreme and all subtlety is gone. They spew hateful legislation. I really hope the reasonable majority is sees how terrible it is and votes them out. I think the right wing extremists are the minority but they are loud and that influences how people vote or if they vote at all. I feel like a lot of moderates or liberals there feel outnumbered and aren’t talking about it. And there’s huge red areas that dwarf the blue areas.

Despite what anyone says about Beto, I’ve always felt if anyone has a chance it’s him. He is campaigning hard and is very charismatic, approachable and well known. A lot of negative things can be placed on Abbot like poor natural disaster response, power grid freeze, mass shootings, lack of abortion, covid response etc. These are things that have huge impacts on peoples lives and caused a lot of trauma.

I encourage everyone in blue states to volunteer as much time as you can for campaigns in purple and red states. Even if you can’t change someone’s mind on political party, you can emphasize how important it is for D’s or anyone who wants a representative to serve the people to vote.

I’ve pondered what would happen after secession. A lot the CA transplants, in Austin for example, moved there because company headquarters moved there for tax breaks. I wonder what companies and individual employees would do. I really feel for all my LGBTQ friends and others who live there and don’t want to leave due to family ties and careers.

[Bad Dingo]

To that point, companies need to leverage their monetary and political power.