7.12 Jan 6th hearing..."Stand Back and Stand By"

[Pom]

I have been pretty impressed with the presentations so far.  I hope they drape those racist, insane domestic terrorist groups around trump's neck.

[basilosaurus]

I'm exhausted but hoping I can put my insomnia to good use because I want to watch this in real time (it starts after midnight my time). I should have about 10 hours before I have to be anywhere after it ends, so bring it on!

[Pom]

It is really exciting that documentary film makers followed coup plotters all around. How deliciously stupid.

[basilosaurus]

I'm trying to remember who I accidentally watched last time. He mostly played it live but on rare occasion interjected to explain a point. During the recesses he went into more explanation. It was pure accident, but I found it insightful.

[Pom]

Giving testimony on tape, Cipollone said I believe that trump should have conceded the election.

[Pom]

Meadows is still fighting testifying.

They are playing tape of Barr, Ivanka, liar Kayleigh M., Mitch McConnell all saying the election was over and Joe Biden had won.

[Pom]

Even scumbag Jason Miller is on tape saying any dead people voting or invalid voter claims was "thin".

[Pom]

A six hour meeting with Trump, his advisors (Powell and Flynn) and a group like Overstock CEO...I missed the others...and it devolved into a screaming and practically physical fight. We will be hearing all about this at length. This is the meeting where Hugo Chavez, et al were brought up as interfering in our elections. Crazy pants theories.

[basilosaurus]

Jul 12, 2022 12:47:26 GMT -5 Pom said:

A six hour meeting with Trump, his advisors (Powell and Flynn) and a group like Overstock CEO...I missed the others...and it devolved into a screaming and practically physical fight. We will be hearing all about this at length. This is the meeting where Hugo Chavez, et al were brought up as interfering in our elections. Crazy pants theories.

I know it's in my wee sma's so my ability to follow is more limited, but, I'm pretty sure at my best I'd still be wondering if there were something wacky in my tea.

[basilosaurus]

I know there are bets on everything in life. What are the odds on Rudy's BAC?!

[Pom]

Jul 12, 2022 12:50:17 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Jul 12, 2022 12:47:26 GMT -5 Pom said:

A six hour meeting with Trump, his advisors (Powell and Flynn) and a group like Overstock CEO...I missed the others...and it devolved into a screaming and practically physical fight. We will be hearing all about this at length. This is the meeting where Hugo Chavez, et al were brought up as interfering in our elections. Crazy pants theories.

I know it's in my wee sma's so my ability to follow is more limited, but, I'm pretty sure at my best I'd still be wondering if there were something wacky in my tea.

Right? Rudy called the lawyers "pussies" when they asked where the evidence was of election fraud. Hutchinson called the meeting "unhinged". Powell said the WH lawyers should all be fired because they pointed out that she'd lost 60 cases. tfg wanted to give Powell security clearance and special counsel post. Cipollone basically just ignored the request.

[Pom]

Jul 12, 2022 12:52:55 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

I know there are bets on everything in life. What are the odds on Rudy's BAC?!

I think it's always out of range.

[Pom]

Those working in the WH and spineless assholes in the GOP should have prevented all of this. Cowards.

[basilosaurus]

Woooooah. This is more insane than I anticipated.

As for Rudy, accept my bet on .4+? I actually feel sad about saying that because it takes a long time to get to that point that's not lethal. He can't have had an easy past 20 years. But, at some point, these are active choices. And he's made many awful choices, to which I say suffer the consequences.

[basilosaurus]

Feed I'm watching is aghast at overstock ceo guy. Saying it's super crazy. But, did they not pay attention to pillow guy? This is not a surprise.

[Pom]

Jul 12, 2022 13:15:17 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Feed I'm watching is aghast at overstock ceo guy. Saying it's super crazy. But, did they not pay attention to pillow guy? This is not a surprise.

Things you never expect to hear about “meetings” @ the WH:

-Nest thermostats interfered in the elections
-Along with dead people
-a rabid conspiracy theorists were to be given security clearance
-fist fights between Flynn and WH counsel

Be back in a minute. I need a Tito’s.

[Pom]

And…and…and…

There was a draft EO that Powell wanted trump to have her be special counsel and have the military seize voting machines. I mean we have heard some of this before but in this format and as a refresher of all the lunacy. :::sigh::: 😳😳😳

[basilosaurus]

Jul 12, 2022 13:20:15 GMT -5 Pom said:

Jul 12, 2022 13:15:17 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Feed I'm watching is aghast at overstock ceo guy. Saying it's super crazy. But, did they not pay attention to pillow guy? This is not a surprise.

Things you never expect to hear about “meetings” @ the WH:

-Nest thermostats interfered in the elections
-Along with dead people
-a rabid conspiracy theorists were to be given security clearance
-fist fights between Flynn and WH counsel

Be back in a minute. I need a Tito’s.

That part I actually expect. Oh, wait, I think you were referring to yourself.

Next up: nutters who haven't gone to law school with a modicum of legal polish. Should be a bit different than Barr pretending to not be a toad.

My money is on Rudy at .4. I actually feel sad saying that because that's lethal to people without a problem. And I wouldn't be surprised at him having a problem; I've known many who crawled into a bottle or swallowed a gun post 9/11. But, also, zero sympathy for throwing his lot in with a horrible treasonous person who shits on all Americans and especially those who've suffered from decades of war (among many of his horrible other crimes). 

[basilosaurus]

A security clearance by EO. Holy hell. Although, Jared didn't even get that level of effort.

As a new girlfriend but long term friend, I've gotten a phone call.

Years later, as a spouse, I had a 2 hour interview. Casual, starbucks, open environment, but it was still terrifying despite having zero to hide. For way far less clearance than fucking white house. They skipped all that? Not cool to put it very mildly.

[Pom]

Jan6comm has encrypted chats of Proud Boys and Flynn was all up in it.

[Pom]

I thought this and Ari Melber @ MSNBC tweeted it best: “A Trump lawyer says Mike Pence should get the "medal of freedom" for not trying to stage an illegal coup on January 6th.

Can the bar get any lower?”

[Velar Fricative]

I can barely watch today so thank you for this thread!

[Pom]

Many of Shitler’ comments about Pence were in and out of his speech several times before he delivered it Jan 6th at the Ellipse. In the end, Trump said it all about Pence and almost got him killed. And did get everyone else killed and injured that day.

[basilosaurus]

Jul 12, 2022 14:10:22 GMT -5 Pom said:

I thought this and Ari Melber @ MSNBC tweeted it best: “A Trump lawyer says Mike Pence should get the "medal of freedom" for not trying to stage an illegal coup on January 6th.

Can the bar get any lower?”

I saw that. And, though I'm in a shared capsule room at the moment with another dozen (guessing) where I really respect silence, and let it slip out loud "are you fucking kidding me." For a moment I forgot where I was. No ragerts

[Pom]

Jason Van Tatenhove (former oath-keeper spokesperson) is now testifying. He says they are lawless and violent. They enjoy using lies, deceit and violence. He said he was “swept up”. K.

He’s saying he couldn’t abide them after he heard other OKs say the Holocaust was not real. He left his paid position with them.

Other witness, Ohio Capitol Rioter Stephen Ayers says he was a hardcore social media trump devotee. He came to DC because trump put out the call to stop the “steal”. Liz asks him if he believed it was stolen. Response: yes. That’s why I was so upset. Now he says he deleted all his SM and started doing “research” and now believes it was not stolen. Also he got arrested. He said he only planned to go to the rally. Not the Capitol. But he followed what trump said and went down to the Capitol to get himself in deep shit.

I am sure getting arrested focuses the mind.

[smock]

It's shocking to me how many people KNEW that Trump did all this in the runup to Jan. 6 – and yet they never came forward for the impeachment. Can you imagine if some of these witnesses testified before Congress? An impeached Trump could have been barred from holding any public office.

[Pom]

I hope everyone gets a chance to watch these hearings. The committee is really doing amazing work.

[Pom]

Oh. Liz just said Trump tried to call a witness that had not yet testified. That should work out great for him. Jesus H Christ.

[suburbanzookeeper]

I am so bummed I missed all but the last ten minutes and am trying to get the highlights from Twitter. I'll have to catch the replay/review tonight.

[pinkyp]

Oh God, please let Trump have left a voicemail and please let them play it for us next hearing!!

What's the max sentence for a witness tampering charge I wonder?