Crow bought properties to benefit C. No Ethics Thomas‘ mom

[Pom]

“In 2014, one of Texas billionaire Harlan Crow’s companies purchased a string of properties on a quiet residential street in Savannah, Georgia. It wasn’t a marquee acquisition for the real estate magnate, just an old single-story home and two vacant lots down the road. What made it noteworthy were the people on the other side of the deal: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his relatives.

The transaction marks the first known instance of money flowing from the Republican megadonor to the Supreme Court justice. The Crow company bought the properties for $133,363 from three co-owners — Thomas, his mother and the family of Thomas’ late brother, according to a state tax document and a deed dated Oct. 15, 2014, filed at the Chatham County courthouse.”

WTAF. When Nazi-loving billionaires buy themselves a SCJ, shouldn’t there be an investigation? Hello Chief Justice? Anyone?

[aurora]

This seems like a pretty glaring ethics violation.

Why isn't the Chief Justice commenting on any of this? Isn't he supposed to care about the perception of credibility on the Court?

[NewOrleans]

Apr 13, 2023 17:32:06 GMT -5 aurora said:

This seems like a pretty glaring ethics violation.

Why isn't the Chief Justice commenting on any of this? Isn't he supposed to care about the perception of credibility on the Court?

He knows he’s up next because his wife has been naughty getting $$$ placing lawyers hither and thither whose cases go to SCOTUS.

[mpm]

This story keeps getting more and more wild.

Text: NEWS: A little scoop building off of @propublica’s great reporting: @slate can confirm Clarence Thomas’ mom definitely still lives in the house Harlan Crow bought. At least as of 2 weeks ago when @byjoelanderson interviewed her there for Slow Burn season 8

[seeyalater52]

!!!!!!!!!!!! To that last post….

[seeyalater52]

I have not a single word.

I’m also sort of staggered that this is only coming to light now. We knew his wife was a literal insurrectionist. Was no one looking into his background? How did all this stuff get buried?

[NewOrleans]

omg stop. So does that mean she’s renting it? Or he gave it to her? Or he’s letting her live in his house for free? 🥴

[seeyalater52]

Apr 13, 2023 19:52:14 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

omg stop. So does that mean she’s renting it? Or he gave it to her? Or he’s letting her live in his house for free? 🥴

I didn’t look into it but… I have a guess.

[ECB]

If only we’d fucking listened to Anita hill.

[Velar Fricative]

Why do checks and balances not exist for our SCOTUS? Because that’s what it feels like.

[NewOrleans]

Apr 13, 2023 19:58:11 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Apr 13, 2023 19:52:14 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

omg stop. So does that mean she’s renting it? Or he gave it to her? Or he’s letting her live in his house for free? 🥴

I didn’t look into it but… I have a guess.

Tell!

[seeyalater52]

Apr 13, 2023 20:27:00 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Apr 13, 2023 19:58:11 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

I didn’t look into it but… I have a guess.

Tell!

Rent free, ethical scandal intensifies.

[NewOrleans]

Apr 13, 2023 20:27:55 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Apr 13, 2023 20:27:00 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Tell!

Rent free, ethical scandal intensifies.

😬

[NewOrleans]

Now do Kavanaugh’s house 👏

[TR]

Apr 13, 2023 20:18:20 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Why do checks and balances not exist for our SCOTUS? Because that’s what it feels like.

Unfortunately, in practice, all checks and balances only exist if the opposite party of whoever is being checked has control.

[NewOrleans]

Wrong thread blerg

[basilosaurus]

Apr 14, 2023 10:45:20 GMT -5 TR said:

Apr 13, 2023 20:18:20 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Why do checks and balances not exist for our SCOTUS? Because that’s what it feels like.

Unfortunately, in practice, all checks and balances only exist if the opposite party of whoever is being checked has control.

I just read an oped on this. SCOTUS apparently doesn't have to follow really any disclosure rules. Sorry it's paywalled, but maybe someone can gift. It was really interesting

www.nytimes.com/2023/04/14/opinion/editorials/clarence-thomas-trips-supreme-court.html

[neverfstop]

So did he actually break any rules/laws? or is this just an "ethical oversight"?

I thought he'd at least have to disclosure some of this on his IRS tax returns?? Obviously, those aren't public....

But there's actually a record of $$ being handed from Crow to CT.

http://instagram.com/p/CrBaiWiLJYU

[aprilsails]

Apr 15, 2023 7:45:35 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Apr 14, 2023 10:45:20 GMT -5 TR said:

Unfortunately, in practice, all checks and balances only exist if the opposite party of whoever is being checked has control.

I just read an oped on this. SCOTUS apparently doesn't have to follow really any disclosure rules. Sorry it's paywalled, but maybe someone can gift. It was really interesting

www.nytimes.com/2023/04/14/opinion/editorials/clarence-thomas-trips-supreme-court.html

Here you go:
www.nytimes.com/2023/04/14/opinion/editorials/clarence-thomas-trips-supreme-court.html?unlocked_article_code=qbpVYcLPtgiIIbWkmLxz0B2Ax_HzyRKp7l6EKN9r77uLXjAl5m7Y5RhtzLpTlxlA5NeTeIqrFfiiclhGrQ3I87xLzAX9pKMb2NfHg68aXitKQJPBWZhcj7NgWnKqT4NvD1Mk_czMbfvEHHxb69VKwvtURE8hYqOs_0NTElb7Q0AOTXX9I81XBLe_pftxSe90U2eCqFjssuVSMJtxjx2-fP24_vsxrNepLNt9oH83WrpmYOGYSYwM1luc3mb15Uzs-G4ZJH_a_IuITl-Ew2pRyBBhssbj3gHWPN3gVQ1y1HSJ9wJq4rxwZRqEDzP_rG_4uYmvKnDOnOJ2foCme0oFXh2k6kbEBPHs0mGl0MogNo29kI6Pu61rP64&giftCopy=3_Independent&smid=url-share

[NewOrleans]

So what’s the grift here?

Clarence Thomas has reported on required financial disclosure forms that his family received rental income totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a firm called Ginger, Ltd., Partnership.
But that company — a Nebraska real estate firm launched in the 1980s by his wife and her relatives — has not existed since 2006.
That year, the family real estate company was shut down and a separate firm was created, state incorporation records show. The similarly named firm assumed control of the shuttered company’s land leasing business, according to property records.
Since that time, however, Thomas has continued to report income from the defunct company — between $50,000 and $100,000 annually in recent years — and there is no mention of the newer firm, Ginger Holdings, LLC, on the forms.

www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/16/clarence-thomas-ginger-financial-disclosure/

[katfco]

Apr 16, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

So what’s the grift here?

Clarence Thomas has reported on required financial disclosure forms that his family received rental income totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a firm called Ginger, Ltd., Partnership.
But that company — a Nebraska real estate firm launched in the 1980s by his wife and her relatives — has not existed since 2006.
That year, the family real estate company was shut down and a separate firm was created, state incorporation records show. The similarly named firm assumed control of the shuttered company’s land leasing business, according to property records.
Since that time, however, Thomas has continued to report income from the defunct company — between $50,000 and $100,000 annually in recent years — and there is no mention of the newer firm, Ginger Holdings, LLC, on the forms.

www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/16/clarence-thomas-ginger-financial-disclosure/

So he gets “income” from an essentially nonexistent company. I’m not an expert, but that sounds like a basic money laundering scheme.

[underwaterrhymes]

What are the options here? There is no way the House will vote to remove him even if he is impeached. Could he be indicted and convicted for money laundering and removed that way?

[seeyalater52]

Apr 16, 2023 13:19:23 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

What are the options here? There is no way the House will vote to remove him even if he is impeached. Could he be indicted and convicted for money laundering and removed that way?

I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know: is there a prohibition against SCOTUS Justices being convicted and jailed? Or is it like president which somehow allows this situation?

I am deeply confused about checks and balances in our system beyond politeness and human decency which are clearly not working out…

[mpm]

Apr 16, 2023 13:54:46 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Apr 16, 2023 13:19:23 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

What are the options here? There is no way the House will vote to remove him even if he is impeached. Could he be indicted and convicted for money laundering and removed that way?

I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know: is there a prohibition against SCOTUS Justices being convicted and jailed? Or is it like president which somehow allows this situation?

I am deeply confused about checks and balances in our system beyond politeness and human decency which are clearly not working out…

He can be convicted and even imprisoned, but only impeachment can remove him from the bench and that is never going to happen. In a normally functioning political system, he would be pressured to resign so that no one had to figure out how any of that would work and he might even be pardoned a la Nixon if he did so quietly. But we are not in a normal political climate so 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[seeyalater52]

Apr 16, 2023 16:41:50 GMT -5 mpm said:

Apr 16, 2023 13:54:46 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know: is there a prohibition against SCOTUS Justices being convicted and jailed? Or is it like president which somehow allows this situation?

I am deeply confused about checks and balances in our system beyond politeness and human decency which are clearly not working out…

He can be convicted and even imprisoned, but only impeachment can remove him from the bench and that is never going to happen. In a normally functioning political system, he would be pressured to resign so that no one had to figure out how any of that would work and he might even be pardoned a la Nixon if he did so quietly. But we are not in a normal political climate so 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

I’m hysterically laugh-crying at this. Like… we are not ok.

[cattledogkisses]

Apr 16, 2023 11:28:02 GMT -5 katfco said:

Apr 16, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

So what’s the grift here?

Clarence Thomas has reported on required financial disclosure forms that his family received rental income totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a firm called Ginger, Ltd., Partnership.
But that company — a Nebraska real estate firm launched in the 1980s by his wife and her relatives — has not existed since 2006.
That year, the family real estate company was shut down and a separate firm was created, state incorporation records show. The similarly named firm assumed control of the shuttered company’s land leasing business, according to property records.
Since that time, however, Thomas has continued to report income from the defunct company — between $50,000 and $100,000 annually in recent years — and there is no mention of the newer firm, Ginger Holdings, LLC, on the forms.

www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/16/clarence-thomas-ginger-financial-disclosure/

So he gets “income” from an essentially nonexistent company. I’m not an expert, but that sounds like a basic money laundering scheme.

Sounds like this is how he's hiding bribes that he's getting.

So from what I'm gathering, if you have enough money you can buy yourself a SC Justice, and there doesn't appear to be anything that can be done about it. 

[mpm]

Apr 16, 2023 16:49:28 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Apr 16, 2023 16:41:50 GMT -5 mpm said:

He can be convicted and even imprisoned, but only impeachment can remove him from the bench and that is never going to happen. In a normally functioning political system, he would be pressured to resign so that no one had to figure out how any of that would work and he might even be pardoned a la Nixon if he did so quietly. But we are not in a normal political climate so 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

I’m hysterically laugh-crying at this. Like… we are not ok.

You had a great run, America. Sorry it didn’t last. 😭

[Velar Fricative]

Clearly I am in the wrong kind of work. Too bad I didn’t pursue elected office or SCOTUS so I could get away with murder. Figuratively AND literally.

[seeyalater52]

Apr 16, 2023 17:40:01 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Clearly I am in the wrong kind of work. Too bad I didn’t pursue elected office or SCOTUS so I could get away with murder. Figuratively AND literally.

All the government workers I know who can’t even accept a nice bottle of champagne or box of chocolates from a coworker or member of the public due to ethics rules would like to have a word.

[estrellita]

Apr 16, 2023 17:47:41 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Apr 16, 2023 17:40:01 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Clearly I am in the wrong kind of work. Too bad I didn’t pursue elected office or SCOTUS so I could get away with murder. Figuratively AND literally.

All the government workers I know who can’t even accept a nice bottle of champagne or box of chocolates from a coworker or member of the public due to ethics rules would like to have a word.

I work at a bank, in a role that never deals with people outside the bank. I still take a course twice a year on bribery and ethics. I would like our country to hold a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE to a higher standard!