I feel sad for them all. Two people in one family going through cancer sucks.
Children having a mom and grandad ill is really hard. A spouse and father sick? These are still humans and they are a family. Cancer impacts us all and yes they have a lot of access to care and support, but being like, "bc of that access they will be FINE!!"
What a dick thing to say. That's not true at all and even thinking that, is just really mean.
Wow. Hopefully the surgery and treatment are successful and she goes on to live a long healthy life. And I hope everyone (me included) channels all of the speculative energy into good thoughts for her and her family.
Post by gretchenindisguise on Mar 22, 2024 14:44:27 GMT -5
I also think this shows how little folks know about medical diagnostics and cancer diagnostics specifically. It really can take a while for someone to get a diagnosis even with the best of the best care. They may not have known what it was until fairly recently. For all we know, they released this a week after diagnosis. And no matter your fortune in life, getting that diagnosis is absolutely terrible and takes time to process. Her hands in that video are so nervous - I just want to hug her.
It doesn't explain why they released that blasted mother's day photo or why they let her take the fall for photoshopping it, her pr team still sucks. But they don't suck for giving her any time she needed to process this privately.
Post by litskispeciality on Mar 22, 2024 14:46:08 GMT -5
I should stay out of this thread moving forward, but I agree that this really never needs to be anyone's business even if it's the BRF. I don't follow them, I don't know the "rules" around sharing information, but even with access to the best medical care in the world it's Kate and her families G-D business to share only if they want too. FFS think of all of the stuff William and Harry went through PR wise and their parents were healthy up until now. You're literally doing the same thing to his/their kids, only it's almost worse because their mom is really sick.
I don't follow much baseball, but apparently this kind of situation came up with a former player who just passed away, that his medical condition was disclosed by another former player without the sick person's consent. It's caused some understandable controversy if the player who outed their "friend" should even be allowed to go to events now after doing something so disgusting when the sick person asked for privacy. I think the same should be given to anyone, even in the BRF.
TW TW TW
I have a whole thing to say about medical privacy after going through all of my family stuff, but it feels like yelling in to an empty hallway. I've had to skip posts in here because the speculation of things like medical coma is triggering for me, and quite frankly gross that people would think that is something they should be privy too. I hope to whatever you believe in that you or your family never have to go through that.
Also echoing what others said about speculation about how long you "should" need to recovery from a particular kind of surgery. I'm rationally annoyed in threads when women speculate how long other women should recovery from something like a hysterectomy, when they also say women's health needs a complete overhaul. Let people heal at their own pace. Send prayers and food or stay the eff out of their health.
Why the fuck didn't they just say she had cancer?!?! Charles just said he had cancer. This is not like, some terrible scandal they needed 2 months to fix.
I don't understand this reaction, either. No, it's nothing that needs to be "fixed," but geez, let the woman and her family have some time to process the information before sharing it with the world.
I took this specifically as calling out the whole media circus that the PR team insisted on, not as a knock against Kate. They could have just left it as they originally did, but instead they trotted out doctored photos and videos to prove how healthy and happy she is and then threw Kate under the bus repeatedly to compensate for their own deficiencies. If they cared about Kate’s health and privacy, they could have gone in so many different directions that actually prioritized those things.
It’s because of the PR team that she had to make this video today. Were there assholes on social media speculating about everything from alien abduction to Brazilian butt lifts? Yes. But the blame for this falls squarely on the shoulders of the BRF and their PR team.
Post by litskispeciality on Mar 22, 2024 14:49:29 GMT -5
Also possible TW TW TW
I know there's a lot of speculation around William and potential affairs and all that crap, but I can't imagine his mental state worrying about the worst case scenario his kids lose their mom at a young age...in the public eye, just as he did, even if it's in a different situation. I can't imagine how any of them are going to be able to process this so publicly moving forward.
Ok douche, go ahead and call it mud. My husband DID have halitosis. We addressed it after I talked to you girls on here and guess what? Years later, no problem. Mofongo, you're a cunt. Eat shit. ~anonnamus
See how the narrative and tone of this thread changed in an instant?
I think they got good PR managers who knew that would happen on a global scale after it all went to hell.
If it's that "easy" (essentially doing what Charles II, who is liked infinitely less than the Princess of Wales, did weeks ago), What's with the weirdness this whole time?
It can take weeks to months to get through the diagnostic phase, since people seem to think we should have known the same day as her surgery.
Even surgery doesn't always go as planned! You get bumped, it takes longer to complete. You have to send the sample off, wait for results. Just because they're the BRF doesn't mean there's a medical lab waiting to run the tests.
It can take weeks to months to get through the diagnostic phase, since people seem to think we should have known the same day as her surgery.
Even surgery doesn't always go as planned! You get bumped, it takes longer to complete. You have to send the sample off, wait for results. Just because they're the BRF doesn't mean there's a medical lab waiting to run the tests.
And even if the path comes back in 24 hours, they can't toss a patient into chemo before they're healed from major surgery.
Post by sunshineluv on Mar 22, 2024 15:16:30 GMT -5
I can remember back when they got married thinking of what a charmed life she was leading, the stuff of fairy tales. Then she has such terrible pregnancies, and we learned more from Harry about how truely awful the pressure they are put under is, and now she has cancer. Her life is no where as charmed as I thought it was years ago. (And of course she was unforgivably awful to Meghan and Harry)
I DD’d your details in case you didn’t want that out there.
But ITA. I had a recent health scare that I’m still keeping private because of lack of conclusive answers and the amount of speculation that spread is exhausting. And I’m a nobody and it’s nothing even remotely like cancer.
Fuck cancer man.
Ty, and I'm sorry you've had that experience. I hope you're on the mend.
I can remember back when they got married thinking of what a charmed life she was leading, the stuff of fairy tales. Then she has such terrible pregnancies, and we learned more from Harry about how truely awful the pressure they are put under is, and now she has cancer. Her life is no where as charmed as I thought it was years ago. (And of course she was unforgivably awful to Meghan and Harry)
I've always thought all along she had something very seriously wrong with her health. The simplest answer is usually the correct one. I don't know why so many people fell down this rabbit hole of face lifts, BBLs etc, and believing there was actually some conspiracy. The BRF can be weird, but at the same time they're not that weird.
I've always thought all along she had something very seriously wrong with her health. The simplest answer is usually the correct one. I don't know why so many people fell down this rabbit hole of face lifts, BBLs etc, and believing there was actually some conspiracy. The BRF can be weird, but at the same time they're not that weird.
We gave her a colostomy, crohns, and made her a crohns ambassador in this thread alone!
Ok douche, go ahead and call it mud. My husband DID have halitosis. We addressed it after I talked to you girls on here and guess what? Years later, no problem. Mofongo, you're a cunt. Eat shit. ~anonnamus
I can remember back when they got married thinking of what a charmed life she was leading, the stuff of fairy tales. Then she has such terrible pregnancies, and we learned more from Harry about how truely awful the pressure they are put under is, and now she has cancer. Her life is no where as charmed as I thought it was years ago. (And of course she was unforgivably awful to Meghan and Harry)
Right. An accusation that came out in a book’s translation (obviously preplanned). No real “on the record” from either M nor H that she nor KC said this. Basically a stunt from the author.
ETA - the same author tweeted his “excitement” with an alarm screenshot for the 6:00 announcement from Kate. He’s also a ghoul.
Ugh. Plenty of people who are young and fit with good access to medical care die from cancer.
I’m a medical malpractice attorney and just this week took the deposition of a now 31 year old widow whose 32 year old non smoker husband died from a very aggressive lung cancer 7 months after diagnosis 2 years ago. So yeah.
Like most in this thread, I wish her and her family all the best as she navigates this. Because even if it’s a “manageable” cancer, I imagine she’s still in a tailspin.
Even surgery doesn't always go as planned! You get bumped, it takes longer to complete. You have to send the sample off, wait for results. Just because they're the BRF doesn't mean there's a medical lab waiting to run the tests.
And even if the path comes back in 24 hours, they can't toss a patient into chemo before they're healed from major surgery.
And and! Sometimes it takes just as long to actually figure out the treatment. There a different kinds of meds and combos and reactions and possible other surgeries.
Ugh. Plenty of people who are young and fit with good access to medical care die from cancer.
Because even if it’s a “manageable” cancer, I imagine she’s still in a tailspin.
Exactly. I was told up front, even if hector (the name given to my tumor) is cancer, it’ll be taken care of with surgery alone. I’m still freaked the fuck out about it. I won’t know for a while what it is. It’s all a mindfuck.
Right. An accusation that came out in a book’s translation (obviously preplanned). No real “on the record” from either M nor H that she nor KC said this. Basically a stunt from the author.
ETA - the same author tweeted his “excitement” with an alarm screenshot for the 6:00 announcement from Kate. He’s also a ghoul.
Meghan said during the interview with Oprah that someone in the RF (can’t remember if she specifically said who) made this comment.
They have 3 young kids. Regardless of their part in the BRF, they are still people. What do you want them to do? You honestly think they would lie about having cancer and put their children through that?
Absolutely not, I don't think they'd lie to their kids. They, too, are part of The Firm.
Whatever ailment she has (cancer, colostomy bag, stubbed toe) I wish her a quick recovery. She'll have access to excellent medical care, and she's young and fit. And the future queen of England. I trust she's in good hands.
Cancer doesn’t care if you’re young and fit. A colleague just passed away from colorectal cancer. He was in his early 40s.
Because even if it’s a “manageable” cancer, I imagine she’s still in a tailspin.
Exactly. I was told up front, even if hector (the name given to my tumor) is cancer, it’ll be taken care of with surgery alone. I’m still freaked the fuck out about it. I won’t know for a while what it is. It’s all a mindfuck.
I can’t even imagine. I’d be a wreck! I freak myself out waiting the 20 minutes between my mammo/sono and my chat with the radiologist about the results.
Thinking good thoughts and sending prayers your way.
Right. An accusation that came out in a book’s translation (obviously preplanned). No real “on the record” from either M nor H that she nor KC said this. Basically a stunt from the author.
ETA - the same author tweeted his “excitement” with an alarm screenshot for the 6:00 announcement from Kate. He’s also a ghoul.
*right* Harry and Meghan have said Kate and Will were pretty horrible to them in various ways. You asked and I gave. If you don't like it, then Google on your own friend. The information is definitely out there on the free market.
It can take weeks to months to get through the diagnostic phase, since people seem to think we should have known the same day as her surgery.
I’ve had thyroid nodules for 20 years. In January, an ultrasound revealed that some had become suspicious. A biopsy in February was inconclusive. I won’t know until sometime after my May 29 surgery if it’s cancer or not.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Mar 22, 2024 16:54:05 GMT -5
Luvvie Ajayi phrased this exactly how I feel:
“Kensington Palace fumbled this immensely. Kate deserved privacy as she navigates her health (we are certainly not owed info about her diagnosis), so for them to be dropping doctored photos and videos poured gas on fire unnecessarily. They also then blamed her for those pics. Fumbled.
We didn't have to know WHAT she was dealing with. But you don't post fake pics and then think people won't be speculating about the PRINCESS of the Royal Family. Let's be honest.
Furthermore, how the Monarchy treats the women who are NOT the Queen is despicable. The women who marry into the Royal Family suffer tremendously. Over and over again. And it continues to show how much of a Gilded Cage the whole thing is.”
“Kensington Palace fumbled this immensely. Kate deserved privacy as she navigates her health (we are certainly not owed info about her diagnosis), so for them to be dropping doctored photos and videos poured gas on fire unnecessarily. They also then blamed her for those pics. Fumbled.
We didn't have to know WHAT she was dealing with. But you don't post fake pics and then think people won't be speculating about the PRINCESS of the Royal Family. Let's be honest.
Furthermore, how the Monarchy treats the women who are NOT the Queen is despicable. The women who marry into the Royal Family suffer tremendously. Over and over again. And it continues to show how much of a Gilded Cage the whole thing is.”
I think this sums it up perfectly. People shouldn't feel bad for wondering what was going on with her. KP did it all AND, now that we know she has cancer, KP let her take the blame for it. This could have been handled so much better. So, so much better.
“Kensington Palace fumbled this immensely. Kate deserved privacy as she navigates her health (we are certainly not owed info about her diagnosis), so for them to be dropping doctored photos and videos poured gas on fire unnecessarily. They also then blamed her for those pics. Fumbled.
We didn't have to know WHAT she was dealing with. But you don't post fake pics and then think people won't be speculating about the PRINCESS of the Royal Family. Let's be honest.
Furthermore, how the Monarchy treats the women who are NOT the Queen is despicable. The women who marry into the Royal Family suffer tremendously. Over and over again. And it continues to show how much of a Gilded Cage the whole thing is.”
It's certainly interesting reading this thread vs the CE&P thread.