WWYD Stolen Money Edition

[dexteroni]

Sept 27, 2024 10:33:56 GMT -5 followyourarrow said:

he's still hoping Susie will do the right thing

Oh, John. I can see why Susie ID’ed him as an easy mark. lol. Hopefully when Susie invariably does not do the right thing, he’ll wise up so this doesn’t happen to him again.

followyourarrow I’m curious - were you also friends with John before this? Or do you only know him through Susie? I’m just wondering if he outwardly seems like the type who would get taken by a crook.

[followyourarrow]

Sept 27, 2024 10:38:58 GMT -5 dexteroni said:

Sept 27, 2024 10:33:56 GMT -5 followyourarrow said:

he's still hoping Susie will do the right thing

Oh, John. I can see why Susie ID’ed him as an easy mark. lol. Hopefully when Susie invariably does not do the right thing, he’ll wise up so this doesn’t happen to him again.

followyourarrow I’m curious - were you also friends with John before this? Or do you only know him through Susie? I’m just wondering if he outwardly seems like the type who would get taken by a crook.

Mostly I know John through Susie, but he's also friends with another casual acquittance. I do think he's the type to be taken in, especially because Susie loved bombed him. 

[heyyounotyouyou]

She’d either have to know his PIN number or take a credit card check and fill it out to herself. In the case of the PIN, she obviously told her it. In case of the check, the bank can pull the check to see if it was John who signed it. It’s not super easy to get cash out on the credit card so this could easily be solved. But John is a sucker and has been played. I don’t buy she flat out stole this money (though she still sucks). Also, a cash advance on a credit card starts charging interest the day it’s taken. And usually at w20%+ interest. He’s already paying a ton of interest due to this.

[dexteroni]

heyyounotyouyou I was wondering about that. I don’t know the cash advance process, but she had to pose as him in some way since it’s his card only. How she got the info she needed to do that is the question. Maybe part of the reason John isn’t going to the police is because he knows he stupidly handed it to her and is embarrassed. He still should though. Even if she had his PIN, that doesn’t make it legal for her to take out a cash advance.

[wanderingback]

Sept 26, 2024 11:21:36 GMT -5 lust2hart said:

I don't know... I see why everyone is saying to tell John and then stay out of it, but OP is basically a witness to a crime at this point, don't you think? If Susie had told OP that she'd stolen $15k from someone OP didn't know, wouldn't we advise OP to go to the police?

Don't get me wrong, I would certainly WANT to tell John and then stay out of it, but I wonder if that's actually the most-right thing to do.

For me personally this is different than seeing someone rob a bank. I think it’s up to John how he wants to proceed since it’s his money and was his relationship. Relationships are messy. I personally also hate the criminal justice system so that’s also why I think it’s up to John on how he wants to proceed.

[dexteroni]

Sept 27, 2024 11:29:16 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Sept 26, 2024 11:21:36 GMT -5 lust2hart said:

I don't know... I see why everyone is saying to tell John and then stay out of it, but OP is basically a witness to a crime at this point, don't you think? If Susie had told OP that she'd stolen $15k from someone OP didn't know, wouldn't we advise OP to go to the police?

Don't get me wrong, I would certainly WANT to tell John and then stay out of it, but I wonder if that's actually the most-right thing to do.

For me personally this is different than seeing someone rob a bank. I think it’s up to John how he wants to proceed since it’s his money and was his relationship. Relationships are messy. I personally also hate the criminal justice system so that’s also why I think it’s up to John on how he wants to proceed.

I agree. Even though I said I’d talk to the authorities, I wouldn’t call them proactively. It would be solely at John’s discretion if he wanted to pursue it. If he didn’t, I wouldn’t do anything. If he were my friend and asked for advice, I would recommend pursuing it for his own sake, but it is up to him.

[katfco]

I'm confused as to why it's even a question.
1. John says Susie stole a significant amount of money
2. Susie says she took a significant amount of money, albeit with permission
3. Susie has a history of making violent threats, leading to a restraining order

I don't understand why you wouldn't tell John, "So Susie said yes, she has your money and here's where it is. Let me know if the cops need a statement."

The whole "single mom" thing made me think: if John allegedly stole Susie's money and Susie had a restraining order against him, would you be hesitant to help her? Even if he had kids?

[devonpow]

This isn’t Jean Valjean stealing a loaf of bread to save his sister’s child from death. It’s $15k that sounds like it isn’t being used for any emergency circumstances but is just sitting somewhere?

I also really don’t understand why it matters “where” the money is. Is it in cash and he’s going to try and physically take it back?? If so bad idea. John has a case for theft. He goes to the police and the police deal with it. Where the money is now doesn’t matter. She could have spent it, hid it, or just deposited it in her own account. If she’s charged and found guilty she will be ordered to pay it back. There’s zero need for external friend involvement unless it’s encouraging therapy to stay out of future toxic relationships