Post by cardiganagain on Nov 21, 2012 9:03:17 GMT -5
So H was super angry about the Santa thing and wants DS to believe the santa BS. After like an hour long bicker match and not talking for most of the night, I caved in and said fine, we'll feed him the crap about Santa.
I'm not happy about it at all, but DS knowing the truth now isn't worth all the fighting.
I'm with you on this. I don't think parents should go along with a fictional character just because society deems it appropriate. He going to know Santa is bullshit eventually and then he'll wonder why you told him he was real. I knew from an early age it is impossible to travel through the entire world in only one night and break into people's houses to deliver presents. It's common sense really.
I'm with you on this. I don't think parents should go along with a fictional character just because society deems it appropriate. He going to know Santa is bullshit eventually and then he'll wonder why you told him he was real. I knew from an early age it is impossible to travel through the entire world in only one night and break into people's houses to deliver presents. It's common sense really.
I'm with you on this. I don't think parents should go along with a fictional character just because society deems it appropriate. He going to know Santa is bullshit eventually and then he'll wonder why you told him he was real. I knew from an early age it is impossible to travel through the entire world in only one night and break into people's houses to deliver presents. It's common sense really.
I'm with you on this. I don't think parents should go along with a fictional character just because society deems it appropriate. He going to know Santa is bullshit eventually and then he'll wonder why you told him he was real. I knew from an early age it is impossible to travel through the entire world in only one night and break into people's houses to deliver presents. It's common sense really.
Yes I am. I mean, I would explain the meaning of Santa and what he represents but not let my kids believe that he is real. Santa is a figure that stands for good things and I would want them to know about that. But Santa being an actual person is fiction, not fact.
Post by JamaicanPineapple on Nov 21, 2012 9:13:31 GMT -5
OMG, it's FUN! I seriously don't think any kid is going to be destroyed when they find out that Santa isn't real. This "lie" is accepted by the 31964613895 other people who celebrate Santa.
I can't imagine not doing Santa on SOME level. Tell them the truth from the beginning if you want, that Santa is character, like on TV; but I tend to think parents who refuse to "do Santa" at all are fun-sucking assholes who take themselves and their children far too seriously.
This is what I am getting at. I'm not a complete grinch. I want my kids to have fun with Christmas.
Yes I am. I mean, I would explain the meaning of Santa and what he represents but not let my kids believe that he is real. Santa is a figure that stands for good things and I would want them to know about that. But Santa being an actual person is fiction, not fact.
So? God forbid kids use their imaginations and believe in something that is "fiction" but completely harmless.
I'm not that black and white with KHC. Because the world isn't that black and white, imo. Fiction, fact, whatever. There's magic in the world, and I want my children to believe in it.
Also evee you already told the kid he doesnt exist. Wtf are you going to say now? He will think you LIED.
He's 3. He'll believe whatever I tell him. H told him santa is real and DS really seemed interested in him. So after H and I decided we'd do the santa BS I laid DS down and told him all about santa. He's totally into it now and wants to meet him. He was telling me last night what he's going to ask santa for Christmas.
I'm not that black and white with KHC. Because the world isn't that black and white, imo. Fiction, fact, whatever. There's magic in the world, and I want my children to believe in it.
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It cracks me up, every fucking Christmas, the same arguments. Elf on the Shelf, "tricking your kids into believing in santa.." lol lol
Also evee you already told the kid he doesnt exist. Wtf are you going to say now? He will think you LIED.
He's 3. He'll believe whatever I tell him. H told him santa is real and DS really seemed interested in him. So after H and I decided we'd do the santa BS I laid DS down and told him all about santa. He's totally into it now and wants to meet him. He was telling me last night what he's going to ask santa for Christmas.
Santa is only one example (sure, the biggest) of what kids believe in that isn't actually "real". Kids have huge imaginations and so much of their lives and play are fantasy.
Do these parents who make sure their kid knows Santa isn't real also make sure their kid knows that their invisible friend is also not real? Or that Spiderman is just a character in a movie? OR.... add whatever you else you want to this list.
Santa is just ONE aspect of kids make believe and thinking that fiction is real.
I'm with you on this. I don't think parents should go along with a fictional character just because society deems it appropriate. He going to know Santa is bullshit eventually and then he'll wonder why you told him he was real. I knew from an early age it is impossible to travel through the entire world in only one night and break into people's houses to deliver presents. It's common sense really.
In my world, my mother was so broke that I was convinced that it had to be a man breaking into my home to deliever gifts because otherwise we would never be able to afford them.
Yes I am. I mean, I would explain the meaning of Santa and what he represents but not let my kids believe that he is real. Santa is a figure that stands for good things and I would want them to know about that. But Santa being an actual person is fiction, not fact.
So? God forbid kids use their imaginations and believe in something that is "fiction" but completely harmless.
I see what your saying and I agree to a point. I just don't want my kids to think that I lied to them. If they think I'm going to lie to them about small things like that, what makes them think I wouldn't lie to them about bigger things? Obviously I wouldn't but I wouldn't want them to know that I will always be truthful with them. They can enjoy Christmas and believe in the goodness and magic of Santa but know that he is a fictional character.
So? God forbid kids use their imaginations and believe in something that is "fiction" but completely harmless.
I see what your saying and I agree to a point. I just don't want my kids to think that I lied to them. If they think I'm going to lie to them about small things like that, what makes them think I wouldn't lie to them about bigger things? Obviously I wouldn't but I wouldn't want them to know that I will always be truthful with them. They can enjoy Christmas and believe in the goodness and magic of Santa but know that he is a fictional character.
I think you're thinking way too hard about this. When I found out Santa wasn't real I wasn't like "OMG you people lied to me, you filthy liars!". Your kids won't be like that either.
Post by BieberMyBalls on Nov 21, 2012 9:22:43 GMT -5
I really don't get what the big fucking deal is lol. You're not introducing your kids to drugs, its just something fun for them. If you choose not to for religious purposes or whatever, awesome. But to act like its some horrible lie that is going to deprive your kid from the "true meaning of christmas" is just nuts.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Nov 21, 2012 9:22:52 GMT -5
Santa is fun for kids. Even when I stopped believing and my sister still did, it was still a blast for me because I got to see her get all amped up. I love seeing our nieces get super excited about Santa coming and I can't wait for our future kids to do the same.
The only problem I have with parents telling their kids the truth from the beginning (aside from them taking it far too seriously - Santa is FUN!) is that these are the kids that often tell the other kids who do still believe, which is pretty shitty.
And I really get irritated with the folks who claim that kids will be scarred for life if they believe in Santa and find out later he's not real. If that's someone's biggest problem in life, they are way too fucking sensitive (and also? pretty damn lucky.)