Are you fucking SERIOUS with that shit? You think me saying "fuck" is on the same level as f*ggot or n*gger? Seriously??? Me saying I find racial slurs offensive is somehow taking offense to "everything anyone ever says to you?"
And yes, I am better than everyone else, but that is entirely due to my epic rack and mad dance skills and not the fact that I find racial and sexuality-based slurs disturbing and disgusting.
Gosh. You really get worked up. About a whole lot of nothing. Really, if internet strangers piss you off this much, I'd hate to know how high your blood pressure is. Take a Xanax and chill the frig out.
Are you fucking kidding me you stupid woman? Hate speech is not nothing and the fact that you think this makes me believe you are an ignorant twat with her head up her own ass.
Babyblue- So according to your logic, its cool to drop the N word as an insult to someone, so long as you aren't intending it as a form of hate speech, yes? Do you see how fucking stupid you sound?
I'm sort of surprised that calling someone a retard is being deemed ok, though. And I don't understand how its lumped into the hateful but harmless insults category, considering its often used in hates crimes against people with special needs. How is it any more acceptable than calling someone a faggot?
I realize this horse is dead, beaten, buried and rotting on ML, but still.
I'm not saying that at all. I just find it completely ridiculous that people here are going apeshit over the F word, but the C word and the R word aren't as offensive. I don't understand how they're on such different levels. It's a bit hypocritical.
Gosh. You really get worked up. About a whole lot of nothing. Really, if internet strangers piss you off this much, I'd hate to know how high your blood pressure is. Take a Xanax and chill the frig out.
Are you fucking kidding me you stupid woman? Hate speech is not nothing and the fact that you think this makes me believe you are an ignorant twat with her head up her own ass.
Aren't you just a sweetie. I'm just not understanding Nugget's logic that one word is somehow so much worse than the others. And, the fact that she starts every one of her posts with a "fuck you" is just her asking to be antagonized.
call me crazy, but when someone says word A is "more" offensive than word B that doesn't mean word A is hunky dory and can be thrown around with abandon.
even if the n-word is universally agreed to be worse than the c-word, it's not like i'm going to be like "hey grandma, you c-word, want to go out for steak tonight?"
Babyblue- So according to your logic, its cool to drop the N word as an insult to someone, so long as you aren't intending it as a form of hate speech, yes? Do you see how fucking stupid you sound?
I'm sort of surprised that calling someone a retard is being deemed ok, though. And I don't understand how its lumped into the hateful but harmless insults category, considering its often used in hates crimes against people with special needs. How is it any more acceptable than calling someone a faggot?
I realize this horse is dead, beaten, buried and rotting on ML, but still.
I'm not saying that at all. I just find it completely ridiculous that people here are going apeshit over the F word, but the C word and the R word aren't as offensive. I don't understand how they're on such different levels. It's a bit hypocritical.
hypocritical . . . that word . . . i don't think it means what you think it means.
Post by lyssbobiss, Command, B613 on Jan 23, 2013 16:05:31 GMT -5
No. There is no "explanation." You used a hateful, derogatory, disgusting slur. Own it. Attempting to explain it away means you don't really get what you did wrong.
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
Are you fucking kidding me you stupid woman? Hate speech is not nothing and the fact that you think this makes me believe you are an ignorant twat with her head up her own ass.
Aren't you just a sweetie. I'm just not understanding Nugget's logic that one word is somehow so much worse than the others. And, the fact that she starts every one of her posts with a "fuck you" is just her asking to be antagonized.
Um. There are words that are worse then others. This is a fact. And a total side eye to the fact that you seem to think her use of a slur is no biggie because she claims she didn't know what it meant. Regardless of ignorance, it's the same as if she had used the n word to insult someone on the board.
Are you fucking kidding me you stupid woman? Hate speech is not nothing and the fact that you think this makes me believe you are an ignorant twat with her head up her own ass.
Aren't you just a sweetie. I'm just not understanding Nugget's logic that one word is somehow so much worse than the others. And, the fact that she starts every one of her posts with a "fuck you" is just her asking to be antagonized.
Actually, I am a sweetie.
That's why I recognize that using a disgusting, hate-filled word to describe someone is worse than saying the word fuck or the word cunt.
If you were really that sheltered and didn't understand how hurtful the word was and learned something today then keep posting.
I agree with mofo. I was also incredibly sheltered until I was about 21/22 years old. That was when I met my now H and felt comfortable enough to ask what some words meant/why they were hurtful. FWIW, I know I could've looked them up online blahblahblah, however I was raised to never say/think/write any derogatory words.
Are you fucking kidding me you stupid woman? Hate speech is not nothing and the fact that you think this makes me believe you are an ignorant twat with her head up her own ass.
Aren't you just a sweetie. I'm just not understanding Nugget's logic that one word is somehow so much worse than the others. And, the fact that she starts every one of her posts with a "fuck you" is just her asking to be antagonized.
Post by LeggsBenedict on Jan 23, 2013 16:20:39 GMT -5
I think it's weird that people are treating cunt like just another funny swear word like asshole and fuck while ignoring the fact that it is totally misogynistic.
I'm not getting into whether or not it's as bad or worse than faggot. But lets not treat it like it's on the same level as shit.
I think it's weird that people are treating cunt like just another funny swear word like asshole and fuck while ignoring the fact that it is totally misogynistic.
I'm not getting into whether or not it's as bad or worse than faggot. But lets not treat it like it's on the same level as shit.
Well, bitch and pussy are misogynistic, too. But to a lesser degree.
Post by liveintheville on Jan 23, 2013 16:35:30 GMT -5
I find it interesting that people who grew up in small towns are "sheltered" and profess ignorance to these things. And I'm just curious. Are you all white? Because I grew up in small towns and as the only minority there, I got called some really disgusting things. Much more so than in larger, less predominantly white, cities.
Ok, so I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I'm just going to say it quickly before I change my mind.
I find it very difficult to believe that you have zero inkling of just how offensive the word "faggot" is, @jjwriter. My understanding is that you used it to insult a person. At the very least, you knew it is an insulting word.
However, if I suspend the aforementioned disbelief and if I take your apology and explanation as truth, then this entire episode is a shining example of what happens when people are not exposed to the greater world around them, which was what I was getting at in my now-twisted thread re people not interacting with any minorities.
@jjwriter, I shame you for using the word, but I applaud you for apologizing (even if I question whether you were really so sheltered not to know the depth of the hate behind the word). I would assume that, by now, you know just how bad the word is, and I trust you will not continue to use it or other similar hate speech.
I don't see anybody doing that. I don't see anybody saying the c word is funny.
Huh? People all over this thread have lumped cunt in with other swear words as though they're on par.
I love how people choose to ignore the root of some words if they happen to enjoy using them. Cunt is generally understood to be one of the filthiest words someone could use. And guess what? The definition is vagina. How is that not misogynistic?
People have said that they use cunt. No one's said it's funny or nice or good.
I think you need to relax a little bit. Have you tried relaxing? It's nicer that way.
JJ- you need to really start thinking before you say thing and especially before you write things (which lasts forever) to such a big, diverse group of people. Because, ouch. And you're making yourself look terrible.
so, jenny1980, what's your proposed solution? no one ever point out hurtful speech because sometimes people don't point out hurtful speech? or are we supposed to have a shitstorm (TM his) post every time someone uses an offensive word.
i'm just trying to figure out your endgame. i mean, other than calling everyone, collectively hypocrites (despite the fact that individuals here in the past have expressed differing views about the very words about which you are complaining). you want us to use our delorean to go back in time and get unmad about this word? or go way way back to like 1999 and get pissed off all the time, always about any word that you don't like?
People have said that they use cunt. No one's said it's funny or nice or good.
I think you need to relax a little bit. Have you tried relaxing? It's nicer that way.
LOL. I love when "just relax" makes an appearance.
I am not particularly worked up, but thanks for your concern.
Look, lol all you want, but you seem awfully wound up over nothing. I haven't seen anyone use "gay" or "retarded" around here in, um, ages. And people were horrified at jj's use of a slur. And no one's saying that the reviled c-word is nice.
In short, I'm not sure with whom you're arguing, because we're all on the same side.
so, jenny1980, what's your proposed solution? no one ever point out hurtful speech because sometimes people don't point out hurtful speech? or are we supposed to have a shitstorm (TM his) post every time someone uses an offensive word.
i'm just trying to figure out your endgame. i mean, other than calling everyone, collectively hypocrites (despite the fact that individuals here in the past have expressed differing views about the very words about which you are complaining). you want us to use our delorean to go back in time and get unmad about this word? or go way way back to like 1999 and get pissed off all the time, always about any word that you don't like?