I'll go one further - I side eye gestating a baby just to have it die minutes (?) after birth rather than taking the more humane, IMO, route of termination.
Oh, I do too, but I admit that's from my own (godless) point of view and experience. The friend who posted this is Mormon, and I'm kind of assuming this family is, so I "get" that they don't see that as an option.
I'll go one further - I side eye gestating a baby just to have it die minutes (?) after birth rather than taking the more humane, IMO, route of termination.
And doesn't terminating at 16 weeks mean the baby most likely wouldn't feel pain vs. being able to feel the pain of dying after birth?
I can't imagine what they are going through. But I also can't imagine publicly raising money for that. But I've found the Mormon faith to be very interesting in terms of helping "brothers" and "sisters."
My confession is DH and I haven't talked about what went down on Sunday yet. He has been really sick this week and I don't think it's fair to pile on him right now when he's really not feeling bad. And he's sicker than man-cold territory. I plan to bring it up with him tomorrow.
Post by shellbear09 on Feb 13, 2014 12:30:54 GMT -5
That is very sad, I can't imagine. I know there are women here who have been through similiar stuff and I would just never want to upset them by posting any judgment on the subject.
Post by andthentherewere10 on Feb 13, 2014 12:32:29 GMT -5
FTR, I agree with those of you that are mentioning that it is "your body, your choice." My comments were sort of a brain dump of my immediate thoughts and more of a reflection of what I would do, not what I think they should do/the right thing to do.
I love Valentine's Day. I love Pinteresty cards, getting gifts from my husband, having an excuse for going out for a nice dinner, and eating chocolate. Haters to the left.
One of my classmate's mother was brutally murdered when we were 10 years old. It was in the news today that the boys convicted of the crime are back in court for resentencing because the state supreme court made life sentences illegal for minors. This makes me livid. I don't care that they were minors, what they did was horrific and traumatizing to the entire community. I just pray that the new sentencing is still fitting to the crime.
That is very sad, I can't imagine. I know there are women here who have been through similiar stuff and I would just never want to upset them by posting any judgment on the subject.
I agree.
Honestly, I would DD this before it's seen by people here who could be very, very hurt by this discussion, catbus.
Post by gibbinator on Feb 13, 2014 12:53:53 GMT -5
I let ds eat lunch in the car while I was driving today. I was in a hurry and didn't have time to sit in the car at -12C while he slowly munched on it for 20 mins. It was chicken strips so fairly choke-on-able
I have been talking about poop with my H for the last week. Since we started B on solids, it's a fascinating topic. Is it solid? Were there chunks in it? What did the avocado look like on the other end?
I swore up and down I wouldn't be one of those parents that talks about poop, but MAN it's interesting! I am going to promise to try not to talk about it in public, or around really anyone but my H, because those moms really grossed me out pre-baby.
Something really sad and crazy happened to my family the day after my Mom's funeral. I didn't post about it here because I was really worried about people thinking I was fake/making things up for attention.
Oh silly! Nobody would think you're making things up.
DH is having a particularly busy week with school. He is usually off on Fridays, but could really use the time to work on his senior project this Friday. He didn't make plans for anyone to watch N, and asked me yesterday what we should do about it. I was going to ask to WFH (not a big deal, I do it a few times a month) but my boss scheduled my review for Friday afternoon. I then asked my mom, but she's busy.
I could still probably ask to WFH, but I'm annoyed that it's on ME to figure it out. I don't like asking to WFH on short notice, and have told him several times to get me a schedule of dates he needs covered.
So, this means that he will probably have to go to school to work on it on Saturday. I feel like I lose either way. Blah.
Oh silly! Nobody would think you're making things up.
Haha it is a pretty crazy story though! My aunt and uncle had a baby at 2pm and then at 3pm got a phone call that my uncle's oldest daughter was killed in a car accident. I wasn't that close to my cousin, but I felt so bad for my Dad. He didn't really know how to approach the whole situation and I know if my Mom was there it would have been easier on him.
Gosh that's crazy! Things had been so hard for your family! MIL passed away recently so I understand feeling bad for your dad. My MIL used to handle all those social engagements for them, so FIL is having a really hard time navigating things.
Post by curbsideprophet on Feb 13, 2014 13:28:50 GMT -5
I cannot get on board with side eyeing or judging someone who chooses to continue a pregnancy, especially if their own life is not in danger. If the situation was life threatening and there was a good chance neither mother or baby would survive if the pregnancy continued, I might wonder about the choice to continue.
A friend of a friend was in a similar situation. They knew the baby would not live long after birth. However they did not feel like it was their place to end the baby's life. When God was ready to take the baby, He would. You may think that is crazy, but that is what they believed. They are entitled to that belief.
In the reverse situation someone would be flame from here to next week for judging a termination.
I am pushing DH to consider more international jobs because the idea of moving somewhere else in the U.S. stresses me out/makes me unhappy more than the idea of moving to a different country. I am a big city snob and I am admitting it here.
Also, I try to pretend I don't care about the money, but the pay in smaller cities in the U.S. for what DH does is not so great. I could deal with a pay cut if we stayed here and still had access to everything I am used to. I don't know how I would deal with a pay cut plus the sudden absence of all the perks of big city living that I love.
To be clear, I was specifically not judging the choice to continue the pregnancy. It was the collection part... but I understand where people are coming from.
To be clear, I was specifically not judging the choice to continue the pregnancy. It was the collection part... but I understand where people are coming from.
I don't really have a problem with your op (although I disagree with your opinion), just the can of worms it opened.
To be clear, I was specifically not judging the choice to continue the pregnancy. It was the collection part... but I understand where people are coming from.
I thought that was clear as well. I agree that the collection part is questionable.
When people post MIL vents lately, part of me can't help but think "At least you HAVE a MIL." Because it's been 11 months since I last saw mine alive, and 10 months since she died suddenly, and I miss her all the damn time. I know this is totally irrational because the MIL vents posted here are generally all justified because the MIL in question is straight up crazy, and I know my MIL was far from perfect and had a touch of the crazy herself (but it was more of a harmless crazy), and I know people need to vent before they go nuts on someone. But I can't keep the damn thought from creeping into my head. I think it's because we're coming up on the first anniversary of her death, plus AJ is just so much damn fun and I know she'd be losing her mind with joy over him...so I find myself thinking about her a lot lately.
Post by scribellesam on Feb 13, 2014 14:08:57 GMT -5
I was just chilling on the couch with DS watching a little Sesame Street before naptime and he totally fell asleep on me.
My confession is that I thought it was adorable and do not feel guilty at all. I spend 30-45 minutes every day getting this guy to nap, if he wants to make it this easy occasionally then I am all for it!
When people post MIL vents lately, part of me can't help but think "At least you HAVE a MIL." Because it's been 11 months since I last saw mine alive, and 10 months since she died suddenly, and I miss her all the damn time. I know this is totally irrational because the MIL vents posted here are generally all justified because the MIL in question is straight up crazy, and I know my MIL was far from perfect and had a touch of the crazy herself (but it was more of a harmless crazy), and I know people need to vent before they go nuts on someone. But I can't keep the damn thought from creeping into my head. I think it's because we're coming up on the first anniversary of her death, plus AJ is just so much damn fun and I know she'd be losing her mind with joy over him...so I find myself thinking about her a lot lately.
I'm totally understand this feeling. MIL passed away 9 months ago. DD is approaching 1 and I just can't help but feel so sad that she's not there to celebrate with us. She loved DD so much!