Just stopped to get gas and the attendant was a Sikh so I expressed my condolences for the tragedy. Well apparently he hadn't heard yet. Go me for stressing the guy out for the rest of his shift.
No I don't live in the area, but I think it's a kindness to acknowledge an act of terrorism perpetrated against someone's religion, especially given the ignorant prejudice Sikhs have faced since 9/11.
Post by basilosaurus on Aug 5, 2012 21:29:26 GMT -5
This is so weird it's borderline offensive.
Habs, you're black for Trayvon, so you don't have to apologize. You were the victim. hth. I'm not sure if I should have apologized, though, as I was born in Florida.
When I was in Taiwan after 911 I got asked about it so many times and people offered their sympathy many times. It wasn't the same day, but sometimes people are more open with their compassion.
OP - next time you might just give someone a smile and tell them you wish them the best that day. If they weren't aware of what happened, or even if they actually weren't Sikh but another religion and you were mistaken on your identification, nothing bad would come from such a comment. And yet if they were hurting or worried about what had happened they would appreciate your compassion.
This is of course coming from someone who chews her own shoe leather regularly in spite of my best efforts.
right, I took the "fail" to mean she failed because the guy didn't know what happened. Not because what she said was kinda out of left field...or weird...or something.
Also, pixy? WTMF!!! ZB is a BIG GIRL!!! She was just a baby yesterday, man!
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
The Trayvon Martin comparison isn't valid - that wasn't an act of domestic terrorism. This is more akin to people offering sympathy and condolences to Americans after 9/11, etc. I certainly didn't get offended when that happened to me, even though I didn't know anyone personally who died.
Flame away, I don't think there is anything wrong with offering sympathy to someone who is a member of a group that has just been a victim of terrorism.
Flame away, I don't think there is anything wrong with offering sympathy to someone who is a member of a group that has just been a victim of terrorism.
It strongly suggests you think of your recipient only in terms of being part of that target group. It also suggests you have no personal friends or connections to the targeted group (if you offer the condolences to a stranger). That is a direct contrast to a tourism situation where you are the American tourist around - and therefore bot being seen as "an American" and the only likely subject for such condolences.
Thanks Moxie, but this board wouldn't be the same without all the raging bitches with holier-than-thou attitudes. They just can't help themselves, it is like a heroin addiction.
IDK. If there was a shooting at a Catholic Church during Mass and someone said something to me knowing I was a devout Catholic, I don't think I'd side-eye them.
Flame away, I don't think there is anything wrong with offering sympathy to someone who is a member of a group that has just been a victim of terrorism.
It strongly suggests you think of your recipient only in terms of being part of that target group. It also suggests you have no personal friends or connections to the targeted group (if you offer the condolences to a stranger). That is a direct contrast to a tourism situation where you are the American tourist around - and therefore bot being seen as "an American" and the only likely subject for such condolences.
It doesn't suggest any of that at all actually, because none of that is true. And as someone else pointed out, there isn't a contrast with the American situation. But it's ok, I know you need to win the contest for who can appear to be the most pseudo-intellectual and cut me down the most.
LOL, so you think random people being gunned down by a crazy person in a movie theatre is the same thing as an act of domestic terrorism where people were targeted specifically because of their religion are the same? And I am the insensitive one? LOL, yea okay.
IDK. If there was a shooting at a Catholic Church during Mass and someone said something to me knowing I was a devout Catholic, I don't think I'd side-eye them.
Yes, but they would only know that you were Catholic because they know you. Not from any outward appearance.
I think what people are reacting to is that she categorized this person on the way he was dressed, lumped all Sikh's together in her mind, and offered him condolences. While I wouldn't call that racism by any stretch of imagination, it's still unconscious stereotyping. The black person/treyvon comparison is accurate in this case.