"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
I don't even think that's it at all. I think they believed he was struggling with sin in his life, that the devil was working in him and if they merely prayed hard enough, it would fix him. I'm sure there's also a huge element of the Jezebel effect going on too, that women and girls are just too tempting and if they were just more modest, it wouldn't happen again.
I doubt the idea of counseling ever occurred to them.
I'm sure they have some sincere religious convictions. But turning to prayer is not inconsistent with understanding options available to you, and the consequences of other alternatives.
I just don't buy that they were so pious and godly that prayer was all they knew. Jim Bob is smart enough to know better. Michelle too. They have been functioning in mainstream society for years. They weren't born and raised in this world, they turned to it as married adults. Jim Bob is a well-connected, savvy man, who had been active in state politics and a businessman, not some kool-aid drinking yahoo fresh out of a bunker.
While they've built a very artificial circle around them to limit their children's exposure to outside influence, they did that because they have an appreciation of what people who don't see life their way are like.
To clarify, I don't think they didn't know about counseling. I think they don't believe in it. Because if they did, they would have sought some kind of counseling for their daughters instead of doubling down on the courting and covering up.
I feel like they have turned this into an opportunity. The religious right seizes on any opportunity to suggest that rape doesn't happen all that much in the hopes that they can convince the public that rape victims should be forced to carry their rape babies to term, and probably to make it harder to send all these sick sex cult adherents to go to prison. They love terms like "legitimate rape" and acting like all this rampant sexual assault on university campuses and in the world is just a liberal made up thing. Jim Bob's advocacy for the death penalty for rapists fits in with that, because by elevating the punishment, you elevate the crime. It becomes harder for people to accept that a "date rape" is actual "rape" because they know that people will agree that a guy who got fresh after that steak dinner doesn't deserve death. By classifying rape as something that gets the death penalty, public perception of rape moves away from this very broad category and into something the public sees as deserving of the death penalty: a series of violent acts committed by heavily armed black men sneaking up randomly on good Christian women.
By suggesting that their daughters didn't really know this was going on, emphasizing that it was not rape, etc., I feel like this is just all part of their agenda to make sexual assault sound like NBD.
So, Jim Bob and Michelle are actual scum. They are worse than I could have ever imagined. They have turned their daughters' assault into a political opportunity. Family Research Council is probably shitting themselves with glee right now that their molester has delivered unto them something so great.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
...By classifying rape as something that gets the death penalty, public perception of rape moves away from this very broad category and into something the public sees as deserving of the death penalty: a series of violent acts committed by heavily armed black men sneaking up randomly on good Christian women....
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
Post by EloiseWeenie on Jun 3, 2015 20:54:31 GMT -5
OMG The girls were more victimized in the past few weeks, by people with an agenda, than they were 12 years ago, because they didn't even know what happened. I want to throttle the baby voice out Michelle.
Megan kept trying to redirect JB to talk about protecting his other children but he just kept saying "but it's okay because Josh came to US and confessed! Also it was no big deal the girls didn't know!"
ALSO ALSO ALSO I call TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT that Josh and the girls got counseling from a legit therapist. If so, CPS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. The police should have reported this to CPS but we know why that creeper didn't, but a real therapist absolutely would have. THE FUCK
Megan kept trying to redirect JB to talk about protecting his other children but he just kept saying "but it's okay because Josh came to US and confessed! Also it was no big deal the girls didn't know!"
BULLSHIT I WANT TO SMASH EVERYTHING
They keep contradicting themselves.
Either the girls didn't know and JB and M sent the girls to counseling for....nothing? Or the girls knew.
And, okay, let's say that the girls legitimately didn't know until this all blew up. (Yeah right). Does that mean JB and M completely hid all of this from them for TWELVE YEARS but told Anna before she married Josh? My bullshit meter is going to explode.
Post by charminglife on Jun 3, 2015 21:17:39 GMT -5
Jim Bob and Michelle are vile people, as are the executives at TLC for not swiftly pulling the show and condemning their actions. They are profiting off of people who covered up the molestation of their own children. I have no idea how they sleep at night.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
Let's pretend that the girls are fine. Let's pretend that Josh is okay and has never since and never will sexually abuse anyone ever again. Let's pretend that this really is just an incident in the past.
What we can not pretend away is that a crime was committed. Two, actually. By Josh, as a minor, and by his parents as adults. Because the crime was committed in the family, by the family and because the perpetrators' and victims' religion is alright with went down is irrelevant. It is not okay now, or was it okay then to circumvent the laws of your government with religon. That is not okay, ever, and I am really fucking pissed that they have the audacity to suggest it, agree with and propagate it. Especially when they are a family that "loves kids!" and the crimes involved are against kids.
Wasn't the information legally released under the Freedom Of Information Act?
They say it shouldn't have been because everyone was a minor.
Is there absolutely any legal basis for that? They redacted names, right? Although I suppose you can easily guess who was involved because there were almost as many victims in the Duggar residence as there were Duggar daughters.