I guess we know why the Duggars didn't report abuse sooner

[dawnzersong]

www.intouchweekly.com/posts/josh-duggar-chilling-molestation-confession-in-new-police-report-59752

Josh Duggar confessed to his father Jim Bob Duggar on THREE separate occasions to multiple acts of sexual molestation against his sisters and a family friend, according to a new police report obtained exclusively by In Touch magazine.



The document also makes clear that Josh was 15 years old when he molested his 5-year-old sister and committed at least SEVEN acts of sexual molestation.

The new report is from the Washington County Sheriff’s Office and was obtained by In Touch using the Freedom of Information Act. In Touch broke the story about Josh’s dark past and previously obtained and published a Springdale Police Department report about the molestations, also by using FOIA.



With fewer redactions than the first report, the Washington County Sheriff’s document makes it clear that despite Josh’s chilling confessions the Duggars waited at least 16 months before contacting authorities about the molestations, even though the behavior was continuing and growing worse. During that period they did not get professional counseling for Josh or his victims. Legal experts tell In Touch that Jim Bob and Michelle could have faced six years in prison for their inaction, if the statute of limitations had not expired.

“James said that in March of 2002 [redacted, Josh] who had just turned 14, came to him very upset and crying,” the new report reads. “James said that [redacted, Josh] had told him that he had been sneaking into [redacted, his sisters’] room at night and had been touching [redacted, his sisters] on the breasts and vaginal areas while they were sleeping.”



The report details that Josh went from sister to sister, stating, “Apparently all of the girls were sleeping in a common room at this time.”
The sheriff’s document also shows the extent of Josh’s abuse. “[Redacted, Josh] told James that this had occurred 4 to 5 times and had occurred as [redacted] was sleeping on the couch.”



As In Touch reports exclusively in its new issue, despite Josh’s confession, Jim Bob and Michelle did not get him – or their daughters -- counseling from a licensed mental health professional for at least 16 months. They have said the children did receive counseling but refuse to say if it was court ordered after the Families In Need of Services and the Arkansas Department of Human Services became involved in the Duggar case.
Several legal experts tell In Touch that Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar could have faced up to six years in prison for their actions and been charged with Permitting Abuse of a Minor (Arkansas Code 5-27-221).



The new police report continues to raise questions about why Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar failed to act in alerting authorities despite Josh’s repeated confessions of sexual molestation and why they didn’t do more to protect their daughters.

By the time police launched their investigation in 2006, the statute of limitations had expired and police turned the matter over to social services. The Duggars did eventually take Josh to a a state trooper Joseph Hutchens. But Hutchens, who is serving 56 years in prison, said in an interview from behind bars that Jim Bob and Josh told him about only one incident and that’s why he didn’t report it to the child abuse hotline. The new police report states only that Jim Bob said when they visited Hutchens Josh “had admitted to Cpl Hutchins (sic) what he had done.” The police did not independently verify that.



The Washington County Sheriff’s Office turned their investigation over to Springdale police for jurisdiction reasons.

[ESF]

I'm going to be sick.

[iammalcolmx]

Yeah that was the start of the show when they were all in that little ass house. What IN THE FUCK are Jim Bob and Michelle going to say in their interview exactly?

[gazpacho]

The more of this I read, the sicker I feel. I don't understand why people (not the board; but, people in general) are willing to give them a pass. The hypocrisy in this is enraging.

[smock]

When does the statute of limitations begin on molestation or permitting abuse of minors? It seems to me that if the family covered up the crimes for a minimum of 16 months, the SOL shouldn't start until the police are notified of the crime.

[picksthemusic]

I'm not able to put my thoughts into words right now. This is just sickening.

[ESF]

Jun 3, 2015 10:27:08 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I think it's pretty gross that this has a SOL. Especially if the person who permitted abuse is a parent. Fuck that.

As I understand it, the SOL runs from the time the victim turns 18 or from when it's reported to law enforcement.

So to clarify, Josh allegedly reported one act to law enforcement (I say allegedly because I don't entirely buy the story of the child porn trooper), three years ran, the others were reported, and the state was like, "oh time has run on all" but appeared to have done nothing to confirm. Now time has actually run on all. WHAT THE FUCK.

I want to kick Jim Bob and Michelle in the face. They are actual pieces of shit.

[penguingrrl]

Those poor girls will have to watch their molester walk free forever because their parents didn't care about their rights.

[smock]

Jun 3, 2015 10:33:07 GMT -5 ESF said:

Jun 3, 2015 10:27:08 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I think it's pretty gross that this has a SOL. Especially if the person who permitted abuse is a parent. Fuck that.

As I understand it, the SOL runs from the time the victim turns 18 or from when it's reported to law enforcement.

So to clarify, Josh allegedly reported one act to law enforcement (I say allegedly because I don't entirely buy the story of the child porn trooper), three years ran, the others were reported, and the state was like, "oh time has run on all" but appeared to have done nothing to confirm. Now time has actually run on all. WHAT THE FUCK.

I want to kick Jim Bob and Michelle in the face. They are actual pieces of shit.

But one of his victims is still a minor, correct? Does that mean he could still be charged with molesting her?

[ringstrue]

Jun 3, 2015 10:27:08 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I think it's pretty gross that this has a SOL. Especially if the person who permitted abuse is a parent. Fuck that.

Is a parent and still has minors living with them.

[ringstrue]

Oh and don't worry those girls all sleep in the same damn room in the new big house too. And the boys are all together as well.

[mbcdefg]

How Christ-like of them.

[dawnzersong]

Jun 3, 2015 10:39:56 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Jun 3, 2015 10:27:08 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I think it's pretty gross that this has a SOL. Especially if the person who permitted abuse is a parent. Fuck that.

Is a parent and still has minors living with them.

Yep, and I don't believe for one second that Josh Duggar ever stopped molesting children or that he's the only kid in that family who has engaged in such behavior. 

Gah. If they weren't "nice white Christian people", they never would have gotten their own show just for cranking out kids in the first place, and they sure as hell wouldn't be getting the pass they are now.

[Cicero]

Jun 3, 2015 10:33:07 GMT -5 ESF said:

Jun 3, 2015 10:27:08 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I think it's pretty gross that this has a SOL. Especially if the person who permitted abuse is a parent. Fuck that.

As I understand it, the SOL runs from the time the victim turns 18 or from when it's reported to law enforcement.

So to clarify, Josh allegedly reported one act to law enforcement (I say allegedly because I don't entirely buy the story of the child porn trooper), three years ran, the others were reported, and the state was like, "oh time has run on all" but appeared to have done nothing to confirm. Now time has actually run on all. WHAT THE FUCK.

I want to kick Jim Bob and Michelle in the face. They are actual pieces of shit.

The SOL that was posted here said 28. All of the sisters are under that age so if these other times were not actually reported...

[eclaires]

So obviously I still feel like Josh is a disgusting human being, but I'm starting to feel a tiny bit sorry for him. He clearly knew what he was doing was wrong and told his parents for months! He should have not done it at all but he obviously went to them for help and they did nothing. What the fuck!!!!

[penguingrrl]

Jun 3, 2015 10:45:33 GMT -5 eclaires said:

So obviously I still feel like Josh is a disgusting human being, but I'm starting to feel a tiny bit sorry for him. He clearly knew what he was doing was wrong and told his parents for months! He should have not done it at all but he obviously went to them for help and they did nothing. What the fuck!!!!

I agree. A teenager is still a child and when your child asks for help because they know they're doing something destructive you can't just ignore it and hope it goes away. That doesn't excuse his behavior, especially since he clearly did know it was wrong, but it sure points to the shittiest parenting I've ever heard of. He needed help, his sisters needed help and support and instead everything was ignored and swept under the rug.

[erbear]

Jun 3, 2015 10:31:03 GMT -5 gazpacho said:

The more of this I read, the sicker I feel. I don't understand why people (not the board; but, people in general) are willing to give them a pass. They hypocrisy in this is enraging.

This is where I am. How the fuck can you condone molestation? HOW?

I don't give a shit about forgiveness. You fucked up, Josh, Jim-Bob, Michelle. Admit it, and take your lumps. And for fuck's sake, get your girls some help - they are the only ones I care about here.

[iammalcolmx]

Jun 3, 2015 10:45:33 GMT -5 eclaires said:

So obviously I still feel like Josh is a disgusting human being, but I'm starting to feel a tiny bit sorry for him. He clearly knew what he was doing was wrong and told his parents for months! He should have not done it at all but he obviously went to them for help and they did nothing. What the fuck!!!!

Agreed, they failed him as parents.

[iammalcolmx]

Jun 3, 2015 10:41:05 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Oh and don't worry those girls all sleep in the same damn room in the new big house too. And the boys are all together as well.

Crap I forgot that.

[downtoearth]

Jun 3, 2015 10:45:33 GMT -5 eclaires said:

So obviously I still feel like Josh is a disgusting human being, but I'm starting to feel a tiny bit sorry for him. He clearly knew what he was doing was wrong and told his parents for months! He should have not done it at all but he obviously went to them for help and they did nothing. What the fuck!!!!

Agreed, I feel like his parents failed him AND all their daughters. It's not just a little fail either, I mean, this pretty much child abuse to not care enough about your son's issues and how they affect/hurt other family members to stop and deal.  If TLC keeps them on, I'll be really surprised.

[mrshandy]

I'm so confused. So this the Duggars heard about this in March 2002. They waited until July 2003 (16 months later) to report it to authorities. Why didn't the police investigate it then? Surely the SOL wasn't up yet right?


This just makes me so sick. They are horrible people. Fuck them.

[lissaholly]

Instead of a Duggar interview, I would love to hear a family that dealt with this abuse successfully. I use the term " successfully" in a relative manner here.

I would love to see a family that had to make this Sophie's choice and chose the victim and reported the crime immediately. I would love to hear how despite being on a juvenile sex offender list, the guy still leads a full life and and has never repeated becaue of proper counseling. I don't want to hear the parents who fucked up by not handling the situation cry or say sorry. I want the family that did the right thing, morally, socially, and LEGALLY, being heralded.

This fucking empathy that is being pored out for him Bob and Michelle is fucking terrifying. A shocking 2% of children are likely to be abused by a sibling while only 0.12% are likely to be abused by an adult family member. That is first statistic is most likey low, too, because so much goes unreported.(http://abovethelaw.com/2015/05/josh-duggar-is-not-the-only-one-who-escaped-prosecution/). I am not interested in hearing the sugars skewered, I just want to not hear them defended, because literally, think about the god damn children.

[heyjude]

Let's give these people another TV show!!

[eclaires]

I think what really gets me is what happens if they do something the first time he tells them? What if he gets help? Instead they do jack shit and it happens again and again and there's no turning back for him either because maybe he could have been helped? Idk. Maybe he couldn't have been. But now he has kids of his own.

Like how many more kids did they doom to abuse just because they didn't get him help the first time? It's sickening. They are disgusting. And they disgust me more than Josh in a lot of ways. I know that the last I heard they were thinking of just having him off the show but if I watched this show (I don't) the people that would offend me most are the parents. They are the root of the problem in pretty much every way. Their kid came to them for help and they didn't do a thing.

[secretlyevil]

Jun 3, 2015 10:23:37 GMT -5 ESF said:

I'm going to be sick.

me too

[lingome]

I, also, feel increased sympathy for Josh knowing that he tried on multiple occasions to get help from his parents. There was dysfunction in his upbringing to begin with, and I'm sure it messed with his head all the more to have asked for help and gotten nothing.

Actually, what he probably received from them as a dysfunctional response, as well - likely being shamed, prayed over; the blame cast over sources such as the devil and his sisters... Just speculation, but there was probably nothing psychologically healthy going on there.

But then my sympathy falls short with his attempts to stay in the limelight and place himself in a leadership role. He had to have known by then that he and his family weren't cut out to be models of moral superiority.

[ijack]

It's really upsetting to me that SOL even come into play in abuse cases

[Deleted]

GAWD! Make it stop.

I swear if this were just another average American family people would be ready to burn them at the stake.

But it's a TV family! They love Jesus!

[decemberwedding07]

Jun 3, 2015 10:51:32 GMT -5 penguingrrl said:

Jun 3, 2015 10:45:33 GMT -5 eclaires said:

So obviously I still feel like Josh is a disgusting human being, but I'm starting to feel a tiny bit sorry for him. He clearly knew what he was doing was wrong and told his parents for months! He should have not done it at all but he obviously went to them for help and they did nothing. What the fuck!!!!

I agree. A teenager is still a child and when your child asks for help because they know they're doing something destructive you can't just ignore it and hope it goes away. That doesn't excuse his behavior, especially since he clearly did know it was wrong, but it sure points to the shittiest parenting I've ever heard of. He needed help, his sisters needed help and support and instead everything was ignored and swept under the rug.

WWJD? Keep making millions of dollars from a reality TV show, obviously! Roll film!

[ESF]

Jun 3, 2015 10:45:30 GMT -5 Cicero said:

Jun 3, 2015 10:33:07 GMT -5 ESF said:

As I understand it, the SOL runs from the time the victim turns 18 or from when it's reported to law enforcement.

So to clarify, Josh allegedly reported one act to law enforcement (I say allegedly because I don't entirely buy the story of the child porn trooper), three years ran, the others were reported, and the state was like, "oh time has run on all" but appeared to have done nothing to confirm. Now time has actually run on all. WHAT THE FUCK.

I want to kick Jim Bob and Michelle in the face. They are actual pieces of shit.

The SOL that was posted here said 28. All of the sisters are under that age so if these other times were not actually reported...

But they were reported because this is a police report.  The police didn't do anything in response to this police report because they appear to have taken Jim Bob's word that all crimes were reported to the trooper 3+ years before (or they verified with the trooper who backed JBD's story then).  It doesn't matter if only one crime was reported to the trooper in 2003 because presumably all were in 2006.  

Clearly the police department contributed to this mess, and some people should be fired if they are even still there.

That all said, only a moron could believe these were isolated incidents by one kid in 2003 and completely stopped.