Rage against the machine?

[JLN]

I don't necessarily like that style of music but I do like their message and will support them for their ideals.

Who is the politician that likes them?

[silva]

paul ryan

[redheadbaker]

Aug 17, 2012 21:22:54 GMT -5 silva said:

paul ryan

Yet another reason for me not to like him. RATM supports a convicted cop killer.

[LoveTrains]

I find it bizarre that Paul Ryan likes rage against the machine. Aren't they a lefty liberal band?!

[katieido]

yeah. tom morello has been sounding off about how Paul Ryan basically personifies the Machine. lol.

[silva]

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/arts-post/post/paul-ryan-incurs-the-rage-of-rage-against-the-machine/2012/08/17/6ca81d84-e882-11e1-a3d2-2a05679928ef_blog.html

[JLN]

Aug 17, 2012 21:22:54 GMT -5 silva said:

paul ryan

this makes no sense. Ryan is exactly the person Rage is against. That'd be like GWB going to a Dixie chicks concert.

[JLN]

Aug 17, 2012 21:23:38 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Aug 17, 2012 21:22:54 GMT -5 silva said:

paul ryan

Yet another reason for me not to like him. RATM supports a convicted cop killer.

?? Fill me in, please.

[pixy0stix]

Maybe I need to drink more beer for this to make sense. Does he not listen to the lyrics? Remember that they played a concert for free at the last Democratic national convention? Supported Obama?

[eclaires]

I don't know... you can like music without agreeing with the politics of the artist. I also don't think it's weird to admit what kind of music you like, even if it's not what would be expected. I think it'd be weird to hide it, TBH. It's not like it's going to mean anything as far as him getting the job.

I guess it's kind of weird, especially because of how political RATM is, but I know a lot of people who like RATM who are total stereotypical conservatives. I know one who is a big fan that studied to be a priest, actually, and has always been a Republican.

I also think you can enjoy the music without loving the meaning behind the lyrics. Maybe that type of music really pumps him up, lol. Who knows.

[pixy0stix]

Yeah, but it's like a staunch conservative liking the Flobots, it's just weird. (YES I SAID WEIRD!)

[Deleted]

I read in another interview that he likes their music but not necessarily their lyrics.

Ever since then I keep thinking of that Nirvana song - "He's the one who likes all our pretty songs and he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun but he knows not what it means"

[Deleted]

Aug 17, 2012 21:39:07 GMT -5 JLN said:

Aug 17, 2012 21:23:38 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Yet another reason for me not to like him. RATM supports a convicted cop killer.

?? Fill me in, please.

Lenord Peltier. It is a 30 year saga of if he killed FBI agents or if the FBI just needed a conviction. RATMs song Freedom is about him.

Edited

[eclaires]

I'm not disputing that it's kind of weird. I just don't think it's a big deal, lol. If he likes it, he likes it. I know a lot of people who like music that seems out of character or contrary to their beliefs.

[EllieArroway]

I dunno. I think that yeah, for your average band you can like them without agreeing with (or even knowing) their politics. But RATM songs are all SO political, and so opposite of what Ryan believes that it's pretty odd. Does he just ignore all of the lyrics?

[Étoile]

Aug 17, 2012 21:59:15 GMT -5 EllieArroway said:

Does he just ignore all of the lyrics?

(new to this board...just sneaking on...)

I think he just works out to RATM...like Tony Horton-style...and totally ignores the lyrics as well as the irony

[pixy0stix]

I'm wondering if they're going to respond to this. Any sets they can climb ala MTV awards?

[redheadbaker]

Aug 17, 2012 21:57:30 GMT -5 rehabaddict said:

Aug 17, 2012 21:39:07 GMT -5 JLN said:

?? Fill me in, please.

Lenord Peltier. It is a 30 year saga of if he killed FBI agents or if the FBI just needed a conviction. RATMs song Freedom is about him.

Edited

Actually, I was referring to Mumia Abu Jamal. He was convicted of killing a Philadelphia police officer in 1981.

[Deleted]

::turns off Cherry Pie and steps out of thread::

[emmybean]

Aug 17, 2012 21:57:02 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

I read in another interview that he likes their music but not necessarily their lyrics.

Ever since then I keep thinking of that Nirvana song - "He's the one who likes all our pretty songs and he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun but he knows not what it means"

Dammit.
I was perfectly happy with "Fear is your only god on the radio, nah fuckit, turn it off" stuck in my head. But now I have god damn In Bloom on repeat.

I think I need another Hey Yeah dance party up in here. To cleanse the pallet.

Also, as shown by my above referenced outkast mention, there is plenty I enjoy as entertainment but don't necessarily agree with on a deeper level (shake it like a Polaroid picture? I MEAN REALLY).

[pixy0stix]

Aug 17, 2012 22:51:52 GMT -5 emmybean said:

I think I need another Hey Yeah dance party up in here. To cleanse the pallet.

No.

Fuck you, Emmy. Now it's in my head.

[llama]

Aug 17, 2012 22:24:16 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I'm wondering if they're going to respond to this. Any sets they can climb ala MTV awards?

You'll think response is pretty funny if you're not a Ryan fan (and who knows, maybe even if you are! )

Excerpted: "I wonder what Ryan's favorite Rage song is? Is it the one where we condemn the genocide of Native Americans? The one lambasting American imperialism? Our cover of "Fuck the Police"? Or is it the one where we call on the people to seize the
means of production? So many excellent choices to jam out to at Young Republican meetings!
Don't mistake me, I clearly see that Ryan has a whole lotta "rage" in him: A rage against women, a rage against immigrants, a rage against workers, a rage against gays, a rage against the poor, a rage against the environment. Basically the only thing he's not raging against is the privileged elite he's groveling in front of for campaign contributions."

More here: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-20120816

Ryan can like whatever band he wants no matter how weird I think it is and even if it's not a "mainstream" group, but IMO it was pretty stupid to name a group that he MUST know is in political opposition to him and who he MUST know is going to respond publicly. It's not a huge deal or anything, but I think it makes him look kind of foolish.

[pixy0stix]

Or out of touch with the common man?

[emmybean]

Aug 17, 2012 22:55:33 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Aug 17, 2012 22:51:52 GMT -5 emmybean said:

I think I need another Hey Yeah dance party up in here. To cleanse the pallet.

No.

Fuck you, Emmy. Now it's in my head.

Too late!!!

It was a spectacular way to turn around an horrific day. I may have pee-wee herman'ed a little.

I'm like the anti Wally World

[llama]

He basically invited them to publicly trash him. I really don't get it. Not that I'm his target demographic or that I think it will actually matter in the long run... I just find it really puzzling.

[Deleted]

I would find it stranger to lie about your favorite band.

I mean it would take extra fucking effort for me to say something other than Queen if I were asked the question.

And God knows I've never put a gun against a man's head, pull the trigger, and then lament to my mama over my wasted life.

MagnifiCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAA!

[ttt]

Well it's not like he can publicly admit that his favorite song is actually "Call Me Maybe."

[llama]

Where is Stan and her siggy when you need her?!?! :-D

[mx27]

well, he has good taste in music i really like rage against the machine.

[summer]

Aug 17, 2012 22:24:51 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Aug 17, 2012 21:57:30 GMT -5 rehabaddict said:

Lenord Peltier. It is a 30 year saga of if he killed FBI agents or if the FBI just needed a conviction. RATMs song Freedom is about him.

Edited

Actually, I was referring to Mumia Abu Jamal. He was convicted of killing a Philadelphia police officer in 1981.

Any conversations about Leonard Peltier and Mumia Abu Jamal need their own thread. Both cases are more than "they are convicted cop killers". Those are both long, debateable stories.