This is a list of truths so basic it's almost embarrassing that they must be delineated here. But alas we must, because so much of the world has worked itself into a quasi-political tizzy Monday over Sunday night's Super Bowl halftime show featuring Beyoncé.
Art can be political and, as such, not everyone will appreciate or enjoy every piece of art. Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) is an expert in neither art nor policing. Police in the United States kill more people than those in almost any other developed country in the world. Of those killed, a disproportionately large share are people of color. That's especially true for black men. Police officers do dangerous and important work that should be done lawfully, and their deaths in the line of duty should always be taken seriously. Sometimes none of that trio seems true. But, it's the last of that trio -- respect for lost police lives -- that is typically the most secure.
Last year, an increasingly number of people publicly protested police misconduct, but police interests did not go utterly unrepresented either. And despite wild claims of a so-called "war on cops," the job did not become demonstrably more dangerous for police. In fact, 2015 turned out to be one of the safest years in recent history for law enforcement officers. Finally, while many civilians were killed by police, very, very few law enforcement officers faced any criminal prosecution in connection with those deaths.
I love the video (granted, I don't think I "get" half of the messages in it, but I'm white) and I loved the Superbowl show. Now I'm off to read about the Black Panthers because I don't know anything about them.
I can't understand why supporting BLM means that you hate cops.
Because this is 'Murica, dammit! You have to choose one or the other. You can't have both! No compromise! Remember how long it took to to figure out where we stood with beer? Does it taste great or is it less filling!?! It can't be both, you commie!
I feel like all the people mad about the Black Panther outfits know next to nothing about the Black Panthers. They took up arms because of -- wait for it -- police brutality. They said if the cops keep shooting and killing us we will no longer lie down and take it. Sound familiar?They also started programs to feed kids and encouraged black people to start businesses and become more self sufficient.
They only know the narrative of "OMG THEY HATE WHITE PEOPLE!" No, the Panthers formed because they were tired of police brutality. And shit - THE MUTHAFUCKING LAW SAID, they had the right to bear arms, so they decided to BEAR ARMS IN SELF-DEFENSE. Sigh. Hypocrisy. Every time someone say black folks needed to arm themselves I think - yeah, we did that and you shot those folks up. So, ok then.
Also, can I just say that Beyonce seems to now be the patron saint of intersectionalism? Like, she's kind of the Alpha and the Omega.
So she first of all has championed feminist causes for YEARS, and now with "Formation," she is 100% coming out hard about Black Lives Matter, and samples Messy Mya at the beginning of the song, which both addresses police violence (since he was gunned down by police), and lends support for sissy bounce/LGBTQ issues.
So Beyonce really is everything.
I feel like Beyonce is having her own personal awakening. She's gotten to the point where she's got so much damn money that she can elevate these things now. I think it's great. I also find it ironic how a couple of years ago we were having some ridiculous conversation about how she and Jay-Z should be "doing more for the black community" and now folks want her to sit down and shut up for highlighting BLM.
Y'all funny to me. LOLOLOL (Not you specifically Bunny, but random ass folks)
They only know the narrative of "OMG THEY HATE WHITE PEOPLE!" No, the Panthers formed because they were tired of police brutality. And shit - THE MUTHAFUCKING LAW SAID, they had the right to bear arms, so they decided to BEAR ARMS IN SELF-DEFENSE. Sigh. Hypocrisy. Every time someone say black folks needed to arm themselves I think - yeah, we did that and you shot those folks up. So, ok then.
OMG, it is the most amazing plan ever. I am seriously in awe of how fucking amazing it was for them to use the open carry laws and DO IT TOO.
Watch Free Angela because she mentions it during that documentary.
I just need to know if "I twirl on them haters" is a nod to Kenya Moore. I NEED TO KNOW.
I think so, because have you ever seen the clip of Yonce talking about Kenya and her twirl? It's hilarious. The thing is, whether it is or isn't, I fully expect Kenya to think it is .
I haven't seen that! and yeah, Kenya will probably never let that die. I remember her saying on her first season that she gets mistaken for Beyonce often.
Upon hearing Formation for the first time I really couldn't tell what she was singing about other than during the chorus. So as I often do I looked up the lyrics. In this case I found a site that not only lists the lyrics but also explains what they reference/symbolize. After reading this, and then watching the video again, I get it. While this genre will never be what I turn on first, while flipping through the radio stations this morning, I stopped when I heard Formation and totally grooved (in my really white girl way) along. So while I'm definitely not her target audience she reached me.
I appreciate songs with important messages (which is rare in country music these days) and respect Beyonce for creating this.
Here's the site with some explanation of the lyrics:
Upon hearing Formation for the first time I really couldn't tell what she was singing about other than during the chorus. So as I often do I looked up the lyrics. In this case I found a site that not only lists the lyrics but also explains what they reference/symbolize. After reading this, and then watching the video again, I get it. While this genre will never be what I turn on first, while flipping through the radio stations this morning, I stopped when I heard Formation and totally grooved (in my really white girl way) along. So while I'm definitely not her target audience she reached me.
I appreciate songs with important messages (which is rare in country music these days) and respect Beyonce for creating this.
Here's the site with some explanation of the lyrics:
Upon hearing Formation for the first time I really couldn't tell what she was singing about other than during the chorus. So as I often do I looked up the lyrics. In this case I found a site that not only lists the lyrics but also explains what they reference/symbolize. After reading this, and then watching the video again, I get it. While this genre will never be what I turn on first, while flipping through the radio stations this morning, I stopped when I heard Formation and totally grooved (in my really white girl way) along. So while I'm definitely not her target audience she reached me.
I appreciate songs with important messages (which is rare in country music these days) and respect Beyonce for creating this.
Here's the site with some explanation of the lyrics:
Also, can I just say that Beyonce seems to now be the patron saint of intersectionalism? Like, she's kind of the Alpha and the Omega.
So she first of all has championed feminist causes for YEARS, and now with "Formation," she is 100% coming out hard about Black Lives Matter, and samples Messy Mya at the beginning of the song, which both addresses police violence (since he was gunned down by police), and lends support for sissy bounce/LGBTQ issues.
So Beyonce really is everything.
This is different than anything I've read about Messy Mya's death--have a link or source where I could read more?
This is an article on messy mya's death, which I think is still unsolved. They released the original suspect when it was proven he wasn't in Nola at the time.
Upon hearing Formation for the first time I really couldn't tell what she was singing about other than during the chorus. So as I often do I looked up the lyrics. In this case I found a site that not only lists the lyrics but also explains what they reference/symbolize. After reading this, and then watching the video again, I get it. While this genre will never be what I turn on first, while flipping through the radio stations this morning, I stopped when I heard Formation and totally grooved (in my really white girl way) along. So while I'm definitely not her target audience she reached me.
I appreciate songs with important messages (which is rare in country music these days) and respect Beyonce for creating this.
Here's the site with some explanation of the lyrics:
Omg. "I like my baby HEIR, with baby hair and Afros." That makes so much more sense then the way I've seen that line quoted everywhere else!!
I actually don't think that's right. I think she just dropped the s, because why not lol. So, I think it just is, "I like my baby['s] hair with baby hair and afros." But do you know what baby hair is, because if not, that's probably why it doesn't make sense?
laladypoet, here you go, but do yourself a favor and click don't watch past :35.
This is an article on messy mya's death, which I think is still unsolved. They released the original suspect when it was proven he wasn't in Nola at the time.
Mmm if you guys listen to The Read, they did an emergency ep on the video. I just started listening, but they adore her so I just know it's going to be great. If you don't listen to The Read, this would be a great one to start with because they'll be in rare form.
I can't understand why supporting BLM means that you hate cops.
I still have a couple pages of the thread to catch up but this is where I am, Pixy.
My supervisor, who is a police wife, last night said she's "anti-Beyonce" after the Formation video. I wanted to ask if she really didn't see how it wasn't a "fuck tha police, I hate them all" video and rather referencing the violence that HAS happened? That is happening daily.
So. Macklemore's song White Privilege II has been on my playlist recently. Like Bey's song is an empowering song to black women (though I was moved by the video and am a white woman) his song is definitely geared towards white people to think about their role in the change. There is a line in it that I want to use every time someone questions the BLM movement or pulls some "but all lives matter! BS:
"Black Lives Matter, to use an analogy, is like if there was a subdivision and a house was on fire, the fire department wouldn't show up and start putting water on ALL the houses because all houses matter. They would show up and they would turn their water on the house that was burning because that's the house that needs the help the most."
Omg. "I like my baby HEIR, with baby hair and Afros." That makes so much more sense then the way I've seen that line quoted everywhere else!!
I actually don't think that's right. I think she just dropped the s, because why not lol. So, I think it just is, "I like my baby['s] hair with baby hair and afros." But do you know what baby hair is, because if not, that's probably why it doesn't make sense?
I googled and am caught up now. That does make more sense. Though maybe that's why she dropped the S, so that it makes sense with either heir or hair.
Post by thatgirl2478 on Feb 9, 2016 22:50:55 GMT -5
I don't normally post over here, but I'm getting irate seeing the KKK compared to the beyonce dancers paying tribute to the Black Panthers memes being shared on FB. Because, of COURSE they're the same thing. I mean, why wouldn't you support the class bully? WTF!
ETA: I came here looking for ammunition against the stupidity. There's just so much (information and stupidity).
I don't normally post over here, but I'm getting irate seeing the KKK compared to the beyonce dancers paying tribute to the Black Panthers memes being shared on FB. Because, of COURSE they're the same thing. I mean, why wouldn't you support the class bully? WTF!
ETA: I came here looking for ammunition against the stupidity. There's just so much (information and stupidity).
Yea, I went on a rant on FB after seeing that for the millionth time today. It got a lot of likes and the people who posted that meme haven't commented. You know facts are hard to argue with, memes are a lot easier to just repost.
Huge rap fan, like eazy E fan n such. Not a Beyoncé fan. Although I've liked a few of her songs very much. This is one of them. It's been in my head all day.