Poll: Job 1 or Job 2

[miso]

Curious what ML thinks.

Job 1
Stable well-known national company in a field that interests me
20 minutes away from home
New area of law for me and therefore a demotion in title (Counsel instead of Senior Counsel)
Paycut of 41%
Stock options
Potential boss is young ambitious woman of Asian descent (actually younger than I am)

Job 2
Small unknown company just starting an in-house legal group in a field that is fairly uninteresting
60 minutes away from home (traffic)
Familiar area of law and promotion in title (Assistant General Counsel)
Pay increase of 25%
No stock options
Potential boss is old white guy with great sense of humor

[tripleshot]

Job 1 sounds great except the pay decrease. I'm not familiar with stock options and how they work. Could they make up some of the salary difference? The fact that it's closer to home and stable is appealing since you have a young child.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:29:05 GMT -5 tripleshot said:

Job 1 sounds great except the pay decrease. I'm not familiar with stock options and how they work. Could they make up some of the salary difference? The fact that it's closer to home and stable is appealing since you have a young child.

Would still be a 21% overall decrease in pay with stock.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:30:28 GMT -5 loonylunalovegood said:

Can you afford the pay cut?

Well, I am currently affording a 100% paycut.

So.

LOL.

(Realistically, to afford being unemployed forever, I would have to sell my condo.)

[meganew]

Oh god, that's tough. The money is so tempting, but an hour commute each way is a huge chunk of time out of your day.

With job 1, how much room is there for growth? Could it be that once you familiarize yourself to the new role and responsibilities they could move you quickly back up to your previous title?

I don't know, man. I'm greedy and the money might just be enough to sway me.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:31:52 GMT -5 loonylunalovegood said:

Also, which one is the one that you interviewed at today with all the pokestops?

Job 1 has one pokestop.

Job 2 has three pokestops.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:32:23 GMT -5 meganew said:

Oh god, that's tough. The money is so tempting, but an hour commute each way is a huge chunk of time out of your day.

With job 1, how much room is there for growth? Could it be that once you familiarize yourself to the new role and responsibilities they could move you quickly back up to your previous title?

I don't know, man. I'm greedy and the money might just be enough to sway me.

I was texting with a friend this morning and surmised it could take 15 years before I got back to what I used to make.

Or not even that.

[Aloe Vera]

I would pick job #1 if there was room for advancement.

[anlo]

The commute really turns me away from job 2. Any idea how long it could take at job 1 to move up and make up the pay cut? That's a big chunk.

[pantsparty]

I wouldn't take a 41% pay cut, unless that was my only offer. If you dislike job 2 greatly, I would keep looking.

[cabbagecabbage]

I've taken a 30% pay cut happily and by choice and I'm pretty low on the middle class rankings but I'm also unambitious as far as money/career stuff. I feel like culture is most of what makes a job work for me so I'd be interested in both depending on feel but #1 sounds more fun and a much better commute.

[eb777888]

Do you have any idea of what the work load will be? I'd take a longer commute if the work load wasn't bad.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:34:28 GMT -5 RexManningDay said:

And congratulations!!

Oh, this is all a positive hypothetical exercise. No offers yet. LOL.

I'm pretty sure I will get Job 2, though.

[mooselovah]

At this point in your life.

Do which job will be interesting to your brain.

[mooselovah]

Jul 25, 2016 18:37:16 GMT -5 miso said:

Jul 25, 2016 18:34:28 GMT -5 RexManningDay said:

And congratulations!!

Oh, this is all a positive hypothetical exercise. No offers yet. LOL.

I'm pretty sure I will get Job 2, though.

Do you want it?

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:34:04 GMT -5 RexManningDay said:

Man. I'd say 2 100% if not for the difference in commute. Is the new area of law for #1 something that appeals to you?

It is. It would actually make me more marketable if I sought other employment after that gig.

[bronxgirl]

Is job 2 a stable enough company that you think your job will be secure?

[thebreakfastclub]

-20% pay with sale of stock is more palatable than -40%, and the shorter commute is much more appealing.

I vote #1.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:36:58 GMT -5 eb777888 said:

Do you have any idea of what the work load will be? I'd take a longer commute if the work load wasn't bad.

Pretty busy at both companies.

[tripleshot]

Jul 25, 2016 18:30:50 GMT -5 miso said:

Jul 25, 2016 18:29:05 GMT -5 tripleshot said:

Job 1 sounds great except the pay decrease. I'm not familiar with stock options and how they work. Could they make up some of the salary difference? The fact that it's closer to home and stable is appealing since you have a young child.

Would still be a 21% overall decrease in pay with stock.

Would you be able to keep your condo with that decrease?  I'm still leaning towards 1 due to the commute. 

[miso]

I'm actually really shocked at the votes.

Maybe it would be different if I posted real numbers instead of percentages.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:39:57 GMT -5 tripleshot said:

Jul 25, 2016 18:30:50 GMT -5 miso said:

Would still be a 21% overall decrease in pay with stock.

Would you be able to keep your condo with that decrease?  I'm still leaning towards 1 due to the commute. 

Yes, I would rent it out.

I'm only selling the condo if I don't work at all.

I am not going to take any job that does not afford me the cushion to keep the condo.

[05heel]

Definitely #2

[moolarkey]

The reason I vote #1 is that #2 requires 2 hours every day on the road and with a child, that's really hard. Plus I'd guess there might be days when you would work long hours and then add the commute.

That pay cut though, that's crazy hard. Any chance they will come up on pay? Would job 2 allow working from home 2-3 days a week?

I just know if I had a 2 hour drive every workday I would start to hate that job with all my soul.

[miso]

Jul 25, 2016 18:41:57 GMT -5 HRH Queen Dick I, Orphan said:

#1 because that commute on #2 is mental.

It's L.A.!

I made it in 45 minutes today.

[pagas]

I would take #2 and move closer to it.

[pantsparty]

Jul 25, 2016 18:40:43 GMT -5 miso said:

I'm actually really shocked at the votes.

Maybe it would be different if I posted real numbers instead of percentages.

I'm beginning to think I'm a robot or something. I truly don't understand taking a massive pay cut when you could make more. I can buy a better quality of life with more money 

[lovelyshoes]

If you can afford job 1, I say go for it. A long commute and a boring job even if it's familiar to you would be grating and cause low morale.
What are the chances of pay increases for the first job? Congratulations to you:)
Eta: if working at 1 makes you more marketable, I'd suck it up and do that. The Assistant GC is going to force you to pull more hours in my experience.

[05heel]

Also, I'm all about title and money at this stage of my career. I also wouldn't report to someone younger than I am right now.

[LoveBug]

I haven't read all of the replies, but would you be able to WFH a day or two a week at job #2?