Secret CIA assessment says Russia helped Trump

[RoxMonster]

win White House (or try to win WH, headline says)

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.4bdc843d7dc6

ETA: First paragraph


"The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter."

[picksthemusic]

Surprise, surprise.

[pixy0stix]

My first thought was holy shit. Then I read the article, and it's what we've known.

The question remains, did Trump seek this out? And if so, what are the repercussions?

ETA: I'm glad it goes into why it's taken so long.

[pitta12]

Dec 9, 2016 20:04:38 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

My first thought was holy shit. Then I read the article, and it's what we've known.

The question remains, did Trump seek this out? And if so, what are the repercussions?

Repercussions are dubious since the Rs apparently DGAF.  But I don't think Trump is the mastermind, by any means.  There is a Russian term that translates to "useful idiot" and that is what Trump is to Putin.  Putin just wants to fuck up the US, and he's a good vehicle for that.

That said, I would not be shocked if Trump is caught up in some shady business deals in Russia and Putin used that as leverage.

[mbcdefg]

Well, I'm not holding my breath for anything to be done about this.

[Jalapeñomel]

How credible is this, being the liberal, biased media?

[pixy0stix]

Dec 9, 2016 20:06:44 GMT -5 pitta12 said:

Dec 9, 2016 20:04:38 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

My first thought was holy shit. Then I read the article, and it's what we've known.

The question remains, did Trump seek this out? And if so, what are the repercussions?

Repercussions are dubious since the Rs apparently DGAF.  But I don't think Trump is the mastermind, by any means.  There is a Russian term that translates to "useful idiot" and that is what Trump is to Putin.  Putin just wants to fuck up the US, and he's a good vehicle for that.

That said, I would not be shocked if Trump is caught up in some shady business deals in Russia and Putin used that as leverage.

Isn't it treason?

[eclaires]

McConnell is a piece of shit.

[RoxMonster]

I don't think anything will end up happening because of this, but shit. This is ridiculous.

[Vespasia]

I have been following Putin fairly closely for the last 15 years. I always knew he was evil but I never suspected that he would be in some way responsible for completely fucking up our federal government.

[satsuma]

Putin's end game is to destabilize the West. What better way than an incompetent idiot. So far much of Europe seems to be falling in line, too.

[aurora]

This is so infuriating, and yet it seems that nobody on the R side cares.

[curbsideprophet]

Why are they not concerned about this? WTF?

[Jalapeñomel]

Dec 9, 2016 20:43:02 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Why are they not concerned about this? WTF?

Because they think it's propaganda from the left?

[al320]

So if they can show trump was involved...thats treason, right?

[curbsideprophet]

Dec 9, 2016 21:25:39 GMT -5 al320 said:

So if they can show trump was involved...thats treason, right?

I wonder if they can request/obtain his tax returns

[pitta12]

Transition team denial:

[funfetti]

Wait a minute. Trump is undermining the exact agencies that will report to him in 40 days?

Hold me. I'll be crying in the corner.

[toepick]

The president-elect just attacked our intelligence agencies in order to defend Russia.

I'm now legitimately scared.

[mbcdefg]

Dec 9, 2016 21:57:08 GMT -5 pitta12 said:

Transition team denial:

And it wasn't even a denial. Just "forget it and move on!"

Yikes.

[karinothing]

Umm. First he is insane and can't believe he is undermining the CIA. Second, his electoral college win isn't even close to the biggest in history...Obama won by more both times.

[toepick]

Dec 9, 2016 22:09:54 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Umm. First he is insane and can't believe he is undermining the CIA. Second, his electoral college win isn't even close to the biggest in history...Obama won by more both times.

In fact his margin of victory in the electoral college ranks him 48 out of 56.

[toepick]

John McCain just said that the CIA isn't always right.

So now the Republican Party is totally ok with the Russians influencing the election because their guy won. And now they can privatize Medicare and slash Social Security and give huge tax cuts to the rich.

This is TREASON.

[curbsideprophet]

Dec 9, 2016 21:57:08 GMT -5 pitta12 said:

Transition team denial:

Maybe if he took a security briefing he would have some idea of what was going on

[toepick]

So if he doesn't trust our intelligence agencies, where will he get his information?

Terrifying.

[eb777888]

I'm clinging to the hope that Trump will be impeached.

[toepick]

Dec 9, 2016 22:34:35 GMT -5 eb777888 said:

I'm clinging to the hope that Trump will be impeached.

I don't think there is a single republican in congress who will stand up to him. Maybe Lindsay Graham. They are too busy jacking off to tax cuts for the rich and making poor people's lives even more miserable.

[sonrisa]

"Obama dispatched Monaco, FBI Director James B. Comey and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson to make the pitch for a “show of solidarity and bipartisan unity” against Russian interference in the election, according to a senior administration official."

And instead, Comey sent his shit letter about investigating Clinton.

[toepick]

Evan McMullin‏ evan_McMullin
Republican leaders knew Russia was undermining our democracy during the election and they chose to ignore it.

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Evan McMullin‏ evan_McMullin
Their willingness to put party before country & power before principle has resulted in one of the worst compromises of US security ever.

[underwaterrhymes]

Dec 9, 2016 22:34:35 GMT -5 eb777888 said:

I'm clinging to the hope that Trump will be impeached.

I really think we are fucked.

We are going to see the deterioration of human rights, climate protection, and long-term financial solvency - both individual and institutional.

I have been drinking, but I have zero confidence that we will see any sort of governmental consequence to this.