Two families on my street are doing this. They have 5 kids (including an infant!) combined. The kids have been riding bikes, coloring with chalk, and playing in the yard together while the parents socialize. The moms are both SAHMs, too, so it’s not done for essential childcare purposes.
Everyone else in my town seems to be taking social distancing and public mask wearing super seriously, so I really don’t know why they think it’s OK.
My neighbor who is paranoid over this to the extreme degree suggested we each never see other people, only do grocery delivery, and then hang out with each other. We don’t do this, but I am wondering what risk you are at if you literally go nowhere. Wouldn’t it just be like you were living with an extra group of people? Or is it just bad because you are violating the spirit of the issue and people who are seeing you might be more likely to socialize with others too?
We've partnered with one other family. We don't see other friends, they don't see other friends, but our 2 year old and their 2 year old can see each other.
Thanks for the judgement. While we don't have the space to physically move in together, permanent, conscious partnering allowed all 4 parents to keep working when our center-based childcare closed. I'm glad to hear you are able to be even more stringent and make it work.
From what I’ve read, you can partner with ONE other household, provided that neither household has any other contact (including shopping for food, etc). If two households are remaining completely isolated, and have been for over 14 days, there is no increased risk. But you can’t see a bunch of isolated households
My neighbor who is paranoid over this to the extreme degree suggested we each never see other people, only do grocery delivery, and then hang out with each other. We don’t do this, but I am wondering what risk you are at if you literally go nowhere. Wouldn’t it just be like you were living with an extra group of people? Or is it just bad because you are violating the spirit of the issue and people who are seeing you might be more likely to socialize with others too?
I don’t think it’s possible to literally go nowhere for 99% of people. There are really no grocery delivery spots available here, so we have to go out for food at a minimum. Even walking the dog around the neighborhood is a risk. There are stories of people trying hard to be socially distant and accidentally failing. We were walking our dog and socially distancing from everyone and all of a sudden an unleashed dog ran right at us and his owner had to run up. You just can’t predict this with complete certainty.
Post by mccallister84 on Apr 8, 2020 17:32:56 GMT -5
I mean I guess for me it comes down to are you comfortable giving covid to your next door neighbor or BFF?
If we get this the one thing I can say is that we will not have contributed to its further spread (unless of course I remain asymptotic and bring it to the grocery store on my next trip - which I have been spacing out as much as possible).
We do the best we can but I still have to go out for groceries so there’s a chance we will get this.
Post by ilikedonuts on Apr 8, 2020 17:36:23 GMT -5
You know what, I hope all of you with your ‘exceptions’, are totally okay with potentially contributing to the death of another person. Because that’s what you are doing.
You know what, I hope all of you with your ‘exceptions’, are totally okay with potentially contributing to the death of another person. Because that’s what you are doing.
Plus ensuring that this quarantine will have to go on even longer.
You know what, I hope all of you with your ‘exceptions’, are totally okay with potentially contributing to the death of another person. Because that’s what you are doing.
Plus ensuring that this quarantine will have to go on even longer.
The US has so many selfish assholes this mess is never going to end. 🤬
You know what, I hope all of you with your ‘exceptions’, are totally okay with potentially contributing to the death of another person. Because that’s what you are doing.
Plus ensuring that this quarantine will have to go on even longer.
While I agree with you about not socializing, this isn’t true. The better we do at social distancing, the longer we quarantine because it takes longer to hit the peak.
Me and my fellow healthcare workers are not killing ourselves, working in unsafe conditions, without adequate PPE for you to PLAY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS.
what the fuck do you not understand about staying at home?
One of her suggestions was partnering with a "cohort family," a group of close friends whom you are certain have self-isolated themselves, have not recently travelled and do not pose any risk of being infected with COVID-19. Hinshaw says that such a group would only work if those families remain committed to the agreement of self-isolating themselves with one another. "By doing this, the two families would only be exposed to each other, limiting close contacts, children have would have opportunities to play in a controlled environment, and parents would have opportunities to connect." She added the recommendations could also work in response to situations involving children with shared custody agreements between their divorced parents.
One of her suggestions was partnering with a "cohort family," a group of close friends whom you are certain have self-isolated themselves, have not recently travelled and do not pose any risk of being infected with COVID-19. Hinshaw says that such a group would only work if those families remain committed to the agreement of self-isolating themselves with one another. "By doing this, the two families would only be exposed to each other, limiting close contacts, children have would have opportunities to play in a controlled environment, and parents would have opportunities to connect." She added the recommendations could also work in response to situations involving children with shared custody agreements between their divorced parents.
Unless you grow your own food, that's really not possible.
I'm throwing out likes like I'm Oprah, you get a like and you get a like. But you assholes that don't understand WTF stay at home and don't fucking socialize with the neighborhood, you don't get any likes.
Assholes maybe a bit harsh but when people have lost their pay and jobs because of this virus, yes, asshole just maybe a bit appropriate.
One of her suggestions was partnering with a "cohort family," a group of close friends whom you are certain have self-isolated themselves, have not recently travelled and do not pose any risk of being infected with COVID-19. Hinshaw says that such a group would only work if those families remain committed to the agreement of self-isolating themselves with one another. "By doing this, the two families would only be exposed to each other, limiting close contacts, children have would have opportunities to play in a controlled environment, and parents would have opportunities to connect." She added the recommendations could also work in response to situations involving children with shared custody agreements between their divorced parents.
It’s not if they are leaving the house even to get groceries. Unless one person is going out and getting groceries for both families and they aren’t leaving for anything else or are both getting grocery delivered then this wouldn’t work. They are still exposing each other and then extension anyone else each time they go out, even for something as simple as groceries.
My father is dying alone in a hospital and we can’t visit him until “maybe” it’s the end so people who can’t follow the rules and stay home and away from all people outside their immediate family they live with making this a policy for longer can really go fuck themselves. I don’t care if it’s one kid or what anyone’s special snowflake situation is. Unless you are an essential worker working outside the home STAY HOME.
This is maddening. Healthcare workers are sacrificing their health and safety along with the safety of their family - or just not seeing them. Businesses are going under, people are losing their livelihoods. Others aren’t being able to see dying/sick family members or just visit old relatives. Yet you can’t keep your special snow flake kid home and avoid play dates so this can all end sooner? Ridiculous.
One of her suggestions was partnering with a "cohort family," a group of close friends whom you are certain have self-isolated themselves, have not recently travelled and do not pose any risk of being infected with COVID-19. Hinshaw says that such a group would only work if those families remain committed to the agreement of self-isolating themselves with one another. "By doing this, the two families would only be exposed to each other, limiting close contacts, children have would have opportunities to play in a controlled environment, and parents would have opportunities to connect." She added the recommendations could also work in response to situations involving children with shared custody agreements between their divorced parents.
It’s not if they are leaving the house even to get groceries. Unless one person is going out and getting groceries for both families and they aren’t leaving for anything else or are both getting grocery delivered then this wouldn’t work. They are still exposing each other and then extension anyone else each time they go out, even for something as simple as groceries.
I only know one friend doing this (with her next door neighbors). And yes she is doing all of the grocery shopping for both families.
I think it could be a powerful idea for singles who live alone. Human contact is really important for mental health.
I am not doing this at all, so I don’t have a horse in this race or anything. Just wanted to let others know this is not something people made up themselves.
It’s not if they are leaving the house even to get groceries. Unless one person is going out and getting groceries for both families and they aren’t leaving for anything else or are both getting grocery delivered then this wouldn’t work. They are still exposing each other and then extension anyone else each time they go out, even for something as simple as groceries.
I only know one friend doing this (with her next door neighbors). And yes she is doing all of the grocery shopping for both families.
I think it could be a powerful idea for singles who live alone. Human contact is really important for mental health.
I am not doing this at all, so I don’t have a horse in this race or anything. Just wanted to let others know this is not something people made up themselves.
I can understand this for singles who live alone, I can’t believe Alberta is suggesting this for families though. We are being told in Ontario to stay the f*** home unless we are essential workers.
My 3 kids are still playing with 2 neighbors. One family has 3 kids and the other has 4 kids. 2 days ago another neighbor yelled at them and told them they should not be playing together and that their parents should read the law book. I get it, and she has a point, but she should talk to us, the parents, if she has an issue, not yell at the kids.
So now that you know someone has a problem with it and you acknowledge she has a point, are you going to stop letting the kids socialize?
Our kids have not hung out with their friends in over 3 weeks. We've had a few people walk or bike by and we chat over the fence from probably 10' away for a few minutes. But that's it.
Any increase in the number of people in your "circle" involves some increased risk. We are six noses breathing shared air in a densely populated area instead of two circles of three. We do joint grocery planning, shipments, and pickups, but it has not been perfect. It was a plan chosen in an attempt to save our jobs, and we felt this was a way to do that while remaining low risk. Regardless, anyone impacted by this disease is justified in feeling anger at the perception that not everyone is taking all the steps they could. For that reason I regret having brought it up since it clearly caused additional pain and I'm sorry.
Post by pinkalicious on Apr 8, 2020 20:08:12 GMT -5
My DS is only 1, so he’s never played with the neighbor kids. However if he were older and had, he wouldn’t be playing right now. There are tons of kids in our neighborhood that are playing together, it drives me insane. Our community park had caution tape wrapped around the equipment and one of the neighbors admitted to tearing it down so her kid could play. We do take walks when ever we can, and we do stop and chat with other neighbors from a distance though.