I am in Michigan, the 3rd hardest hit state, and in the 2nd hardest hit county within the state. I don’t know of we hit our peak yet but I think/hope we might be close so will hopefully be flattening very soon.
For the most part people are taking this seriously in our area, although, I do still see families grocery shop together still. The other day, a neighbor was taking a walk with his family AND his parents which I kind of side eyed.
People are all up in arms over not being able to have their lawn service mow their lawns. 🙄 One lawn service posted on Next Door about defying the Governors executive order AND WILL MOW YOUR LAWN. Not one person needs their lawns mowed right now.
Is that because of the weather? I'm in Florida and overgrown lawns yield mighty problems with bugs and pests. also people are calling city ordinance to report violators. We definitely need lawns mowed, but I think it's considered essential here anyway. ETA: and besides, we never had contact with our mower guy. We paid him via check left in the mailbox pre-pandemic. This is one thing I don't judge. (shocking, right?! lol)
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I still see that the city is mowing the parks etc and sidewalks. Texas has snakes so I assume that is why they are still mowing. We have never hired out for lawn services and likely never will.
The irony is, while we are here complaining about others, “Walking to the shops”** (what shops? how are you able to carry your 2-3 week essential grocery supply in your arms?) and going to the store just for one item are both behaviors that contribute to the problem.
** assuming no access to a car or delivery options to avoid frequent in person trips
It definitely hurt my arms/back 16 days ago, but I certainly walked and got 2 weeks worth or groceries and carried them home. It was supplemented 1 week later with a small bag of veggies from my weekly veggie pick up. I’m confused why you’re questioning walking home with groceries? Granted I’m only shopping for 1 person, but most people in my neighborhood seem to carry their groceries home or has a small cart to transport them in, so they’ll definitely have to go more frequently. That’s just how it is here. What else are we supposed to do? I certainly can’t afford grocery delivery right now if it were easily available, so walking to the store is the only option.
I am in Michigan, the 3rd hardest hit state, and in the 2nd hardest hit county within the state. I don’t know of we hit our peak yet but I think/hope we might be close so will hopefully be flattening very soon.
For the most part people are taking this seriously in our area, although, I do still see families grocery shop together still. The other day, a neighbor was taking a walk with his family AND his parents which I kind of side eyed.
People are all up in arms over not being able to have their lawn service mow their lawns. 🙄 One lawn service posted on Next Door about defying the Governors executive order AND WILL MOW YOUR LAWN. Not one person needs their lawns mowed right now.
Is that because of the weather? I'm in Florida and overgrown lawns yield mighty problems with bugs and pests. also people are calling city ordinance to report violators. We definitely need lawns mowed, but I think it's considered essential here anyway. ETA: and besides, we never had contact with our mower guy. We paid him via check left in the mailbox pre-pandemic. This is one thing I don't judge. (shocking, right?! lol)
Probably. We had light snow here last week and yesterday in the UP they were getting hit with snow so it is still on the colder side.
My friend, who lives on a lake about 20 minutes from me, had to mow her lawn this weekend. Typically, however, People around here don’t have to mow lawns until May.
The irony is, while we are here complaining about others, “Walking to the shops”** (what shops? how are you able to carry your 2-3 week essential grocery supply in your arms?) and going to the store just for one item are both behaviors that contribute to the problem.
** assuming no access to a car or delivery options to avoid frequent in person trips
It definitely hurt my arms/back 16 days ago, but I certainly walked and got 2 weeks worth or groceries and carried them home. It was supplemented 1 week later with a small bag of veggies from my weekly veggie pick up. I’m confused why you’re questioning walking home with groceries? Granted I’m only shopping for 1 person, but most people in my neighborhood seem to carry their groceries home or has a small cart to transport them in, so they’ll definitely have to go more frequently. That’s just how it is here. What else are we supposed to do? I certainly can’t afford grocery delivery right now if it were easily available, so walking to the store is the only option.
It wasn’t my intent to shame someone who has no other choices.
Over 91% of our country has access to a car (which is immediately where my head went, despite having recently lived in NYC without one myself). Cars make it much easier to lug more groceries home, which means fewer people out and a quicker flattening of the curve. Utilizing our car is the only way we’ve been able to change our shopping habits. Before this, I would walk to TJ’s maybe 5x/wk. In the past 33 days, I’ve been to the grocery store exactly twice (alone, since bringing my husband means more crowding in the store).
So hearing someone say two adults in their household “walked to the shops” or someone made a trip for milk alone makes me pause. There could be several legitimate explanations for those scenarios, so I apologize to anyone I offended who is doing the best they can. At the same time, I want to point out that any unnecessary trips (and probably only the person shopping knows how truly necessary it is) are prolonging this for everyone.
I am in Michigan, the 3rd hardest hit state, and in the 2nd hardest hit county within the state. I don’t know of we hit our peak yet but I think/hope we might be close so will hopefully be flattening very soon.
For the most part people are taking this seriously in our area, although, I do still see families grocery shop together still. The other day, a neighbor was taking a walk with his family AND his parents which I kind of side eyed.
People are all up in arms over not being able to have their lawn service mow their lawns. 🙄 One lawn service posted on Next Door about defying the Governors executive order AND WILL MOW YOUR LAWN. Not one person needs their lawns mowed right now.
Grass cutters are still working here, granted it’s warm and it’s growing crazy. Our guy works alone, we leave a check once a month and don’t see him. I’ve seen tons of people getting their normal grass service.
It’s still on the chilly side here. We had light snow last week and it’s 42/feels like 30 right now.
And I was wrong, my friend needed to mow her lawn this weekend. Only one person needed to mow her lawn. Lol
Post by RoxMonster on Apr 13, 2020 11:37:15 GMT -5
I'm in IL and we have definitely already mowed our lawn. It was getting super long. We don't pay for a service, we mow ourselves, but people in my neighborhood have had services come. I'm not judging it. It was one man who got out and mowed/trimmed and didn't interact with the homeowner or anyone else even once (I know this because my "work space" right now is at my dining room table and they're directly across from my dining room window). It looked like a one-man show, local kind of operation and he probably relies on business to stay afloat. I personally don't see any harm in it. He socially distanced by not interacting with anyone, they got their yard mowed (it's an elderly couple who lives there), and he was able to earn money for his business.
Post by mrsukyankee on Apr 13, 2020 11:54:59 GMT -5
tacom , it's okay. Driving everywhere is a very US centric way of living and many other places in the world is not. I probably would have questioned it too when I was living in the US (though I lived in quite a few cities so walked more than drove there too). I don't expect people to always remember where we all live and so it's a good reminder that we need to ask questions about things (such as lawn mowing - if I were in a colder part of the world, I'd think a lawn mowing service would be ridic right now, but for those in the hotter locations, it may be an utter necessity). I think it's a good habit for all of us to get into - ask questions if you don't know why people are doing what they are doing.
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Is it working in the sense that numbers are going down? Yes. Are people actually socially distancing? No. I am sure Houston gets an F. We also aren't really testing anyone yet. Based upon what I saw yesterday we will be seeing a gigantic spike in 7-14 days from now.
Per the chart someone posted up thread Harris County got a D
notsocreepylurker, sounds about right. I am actually pleasantly surprised by how many people are socially distancing but too many are breaking the rules.
fivechickens, we are still having our lawn serviced weekly. Until this thread I didn't consider that we shouldn't. We already have enough trouble with pests and snakes down here...not having our yard mowed would be bad. Summer hit Houston early though. It's nice today but was 94 yesterday. Our backyard already looks like a jungle after being mowed 6 days ago.
I don't know. My county has about 45,000 people and we have 11 cases, so, I sure hope so. I'm still not sure how much testing they are doing here though.
notsocreepylurker, sounds about right. I am actually pleasantly surprised by how many people are socially distancing but too many are breaking the rules.
fivechickens, we are still having our lawn serviced weekly. Until this thread I didn't consider that we shouldn't. We already have enough trouble with pests and snakes down here...not having our yard mowed would be bad. Summer hit Houston early though. It's nice today but was 94 yesterday. Our backyard already looks like a jungle after being mowed 6 days ago.
I mean it won’t be 94 here until June if we are lucky, July if we are even more lucky.
My comment was about my state and people freaking out over something that might not/probably won’t be an issue in another few weeks.
I'm confused as to why lawn mowing is an issue. It doesn't seem like there is any person to person contact. Am I missing something?
Because it’s not an issue right now and people are making it an issue. Also, it’s a non-essential FOR MI.
ALSO, it’s more about the landscaping part than the actual lawn mowing part (since again it’s not an issue for most) but some people are trying to make our Governor out to be this evil being and twist things. I mean, fuck she had to clarify via tweet that if your child needs a car seat BUY YOUR CHILD A CAR SEAT.
FWIW our HOA manager said the grass cutting/landscaping was continuing as originally scheduled, with some modifications for the workers, because plants are living things. 🤷🏻♀️
Post by penguingrrl on Apr 13, 2020 15:42:35 GMT -5
Social distancing is working in NJ. We are still seeing high numbers of newly diagnosed cases every day, but at one point we had over 4,000 new positives a day, and I. The past week we’ve hovered around 3,500 new cases per day. Still not great, but we’re basically holding the line instead of growing exponentially.
Our governor has made it clear that yes it’s working. And that the fact that it’s working means we have to co to use being this stringent, staying home for anything other than what’s necessary, and it will be a long road to reopening.
Landscaping is one of the allowed businesses, because not doing so can cause harm (pests, bugs) and not everyone is physically capable of mowing their own lawn. Nor do we need the next major run to be on lawnmowers (we don’t own one because we haven’t cut our own lawn in years due to allergies).
Post by InBetweenDays on Apr 13, 2020 21:13:49 GMT -5
I don't want to get my hopes up, but we had 127 new cases and 8 deaths today for the entire state of Washington. That's the lowest we've seen in 3 weeks.
I am absolutely astounded that over 91% of our country has access to a car. Especially since like 30% is HOMELESS, isn’t it?!
No 30% of the US population isn't homeless. Where are you getting that statistic from?
I know this is a serious post about an important topic and this was a likely honest mistake about yet another important topic, but I keep coming back to this and half giggling/half gaping in amazement. Our country has many horrific problems, but no, it is not true that nearly 1/3 of the population is unhoused.
No 30% of the US population isn't homeless. Where are you getting that statistic from?
I know this is a serious post about an important topic and this was a likely honest mistake about yet another important topic, but I keep coming back to this and half giggling/half gaping in amazement. Our country has many horrific problems, but no, it is not true that nearly 1/3 of the population is unhoused.
Maybe it was supposed to say 3%? But even that I believe is too high. LOL (literally) at half giggling, because me too.
Because it’s not an issue right now and people are making it an issue. Also, it’s a non-essential FOR MI.
ALSO, it’s more about the landscaping part than the actual lawn mowing part (since again it’s not an issue for most) but some people are trying to make our Governor out to be this evil being and twist things. I mean, fuck she had to clarify via tweet that if your child needs a car seat BUY YOUR CHILD A CAR SEAT.
You definitely sounded like you were judging people using lawn services and your lawn service for saying they’d do it regardless of the governors order, so I’m confused.
I am sorry that it sounded that way. I wasn’t judging anyone from areas outside of where I live.
My reaction was more based on people freaking out over something that isn’t even an issue for my area right now.
Post by klingklang77 on Apr 14, 2020 4:48:02 GMT -5
It seems to be working here in Europe in some countries. But overall we are at a plateau and they (Germany) are telling us the numbers are dropping. I think they are looking to open up the country soon. The numbers are a lie here anyway. I hope they wait a few weeks to reopen the country.
Aside from Italy and Spain, the Netherlands are having a hard time right now. And one state (NRW next to the border) in Germany has had its infection rates go up. Belgium is also not doing the best. I also expect Sweden to have a problem soon.
I’ve said this in other threads that the only real number we can track with the low amount of testing we’re doing is deaths and ICU admissions. Not cases. I’ve read studies that the cases, especially asymptomatic ones, could be well into the millions. In my area (Virginia Beach) we’ve had one death and that has been the case for a few weeks now. Norfolk, our neighboring city, hasn’t had any. So I do think we’re doing “well” with the social distancing here.
I’ve said this in other threads that the only real number we can track with the low amount of testing we’re doing is deaths and ICU admissions. Not cases. I’ve read studies that the cases, especially asymptomatic ones, could be well into the millions. In my area (Virginia Beach) we’ve had one death and that has been the case for a few weeks now. Norfolk, our neighboring city, hasn’t had any. So I do think we’re doing “well” with the social distancing here.
According to a Facebook post H showed me last night, a nurse in a (named) local hospital personally witnessed a doctor write Covid as cause of death on a death certificate when the patient died of something unrelated. When this very brave nurse questioned him and insisted he change it, he said it’s because the government is paying hospitals 39k/Covid death, so it helps the hospital right now.
And this is why the numbers are artificially inflated, per the person sharing the post.