This reminds me of my gay boyfriend who so desperately did not want to be gay because his mother would disown him. I tried to help him, I didnt want him to be gay either because he was really hot (and funny and nice). but damn, somethings you just cant change.
Post by emilyinchile on Feb 12, 2013 21:41:06 GMT -5
I'll be honest and say that I would choose to have a straight child rather than a gay child in our current society. That is 100% because I think that gay people deal with a lot of extra shit, much of it from people like soozy87, and has nothing to do with whether or not I recognize the possibility that a child of mine could be gay. Soozy, I really don't see what your question has to do with your stance on child-rearing and how you will magically shape your child's sexuality.
I'll be honest and say that I would choose to have a straight child rather than a gay child in our current society. That is 100% because I think that gay people deal with a lot of extra shit, much of it from people like soozy87, and has nothing to do with whether or not I recognize the possibility that a child of mine could be gay. Soozy, I really don't see what your question has to do with your stance on child-rearing and how you will magically shape your child's sexuality.
Humor me. How do you plan to enforce this? You can't provide that assurance.
How will I enforce what? I don't think I will have to force him into anything. I will tell him what is right and what is wrong and we will teach him as he grows up.
How can you teach him right and wrong when you clearly don't know yourself?
How will I enforce what? I don't think I will have to force him into anything. I will tell him what is right and what is wrong and we will teach him as he grows up.
How can you teach him right and wrong when you clearly don't know yourself?
I do think that I know right from wrong. I am proud of who I am and who I was raised to be.
Okay, well, hypothetically, if YOU could choose, which would you choose?
How do you think this is going to prove anything to you? If they say gay, you'll be all "I will pray for you soul *headpat*" and if they say straight, you'll be all "why I thought being gay was okay you lying liar that lies." Either way you will use what they say to prove your point.
That being said, I would choose a straight child only because of the difficulties that being a gay person in America can bring. It would break my heart to know my son or daughter couldn't marry the person they loved, or recieve equal tax benefits, or equal military spousal benefits, because people like you are a-skeered of the gays. Not to mention the bullying and problems they'd probably have in school, because kids with parents like you would treat them like less than a human, or damaged, or broken, or a pervert. So, there you go.
I'll be honest and say that I would choose to have a straight child rather than a gay child in our current society. That is 100% because I think that gay people deal with a lot of extra shit, much of it from people like soozy87, and has nothing to do with whether or not I recognize the possibility that a child of mine could be gay. Soozy, I really don't see what your question has to do with your stance on child-rearing and how you will magically shape your child's sexuality.
I will let you know how it goes.
Oh ok, now I understand. You just say things that do not relate to the topic at hand. So your question has nothing to do with your "raising my kid with straight values" comment, and your response to me has nothing to do with the points I raised. FYI, this makes sustaining a conversation difficult.
I am cracking up at v and sj's confessions. What do you guys say you're doing online?
The conversation is usually along the lines of "What are you typing?" "I'm writing an email" "To who?" "My mom"
He's on the other side of the couch from me right now. My screen is kind of turned away from him so he can't see what I'm doing :^)
I accidentally had my screen turned toward DW today and she says, "you actually post on those blog things!" Blarg, I had to say yes. But promised not to reveal too much sensitive info...
I agree that it must be difficult to be homosexual in this country, along with many other countries. I think that, no matter how it comes across on the internet, that I am a person who is not hateful, I don't hate gay people.
You can't win on this. I wish I had held DD back, and in a world of perfect information, I might have, but at the same time, if I had she would still be in the same boat she is in now, just a year later because most of her problems are school related, and no one would listen to me until she had been in school a year and they had the chance to "appear". Doing the right thing for YOUR kid based on what you know is the right thing, even if doesn't apply to a single other child. I am considering moving to put DD back in first grade next year, since she has basically missed this year.
It is neither sad, nor dumb to want your child to be happy and successful.
I'm lucky in the sense that he doesn't have a diagnosis. He just has a mish mash of various things...tibial torsion that affect gross motor, severe speech delay, and poor hand strength that makes writing and cutting with scissors difficult. All stuff he will eventually outgrow. So on one hand, preschool is the perfect place. He gets great therapy services and he's making fantastic progress.
On the other hand, he's ready academically and socially. He's doing basic math and getting ready to read. He has this need to learn as much as he can, and the preschool program isn't doing that for him now.
So we're doing another year of preschool with the school district for IEP purposes because the therapy is great, but we're tacking on another preschool program locally for the afternoons. It's geared toward young five year olds who aren't yet ready for kindergarten, but I'm hoping that the "older" curriculum will help.
I need to be patient. He will outgrow all of this. In a few years it won't matter. But it sucks right now. I'm tired of therapy and IEPs and pediatricians and reading about what is wrong with my kid.
Oh ok, now I understand. You just say things that do not relate to the topic at hand. So your question has nothing to do with your "raising my kid with straight values" comment, and your response to me has nothing to do with the points I raised. FYI, this makes sustaining a conversation difficult.
I believe that being gay is a choice. So, I will choose to raise my son knowing that there are things that are for boys and things that are for girls. So yes, this conversation is difficult because you, and many others, don't think that being gay is a choice and I do.
Oh ok, now I understand. You just say things that do not relate to the topic at hand. So your question has nothing to do with your "raising my kid with straight values" comment, and your response to me has nothing to do with the points I raised. FYI, this makes sustaining a conversation difficult.
I believe that being gay is a choice. So, I will choose to raise my son knowing that there are things that are for boys and things that are for girls. So yes, this conversation is difficult because you, and many others, don't think that being gay is a choice and I do.
Ok, I can't. I just tried to type something explain the point to you, and it was painful even for me to read, so I deleted it. Because apparently you're still not going to understand. Let's just leave it at yes, I promise I understand what you're saying, you're just not getting why your follow-ups are irrelevant.
I believe that being gay is a choice. So, I will choose to raise my son knowing that there are things that are for boys and things that are for girls. So yes, this conversation is difficult because you, and many others, don't think that being gay is a choice and I do.
Okay, let's say being gay is a choice and you teach your future children this. Why are you so confident that your children will follow everything you say?
Do you not think many parents have went with this approach and their child ended up being gay?
It's probably just one of those "you don't really know until you have them" kind of things. We will see. I don't think that they will do everything that I tell them to, but I hope to give them a solide foundation of values that we will follow.
I don't know. I guess if those parents are like many people here they wouldn't have the same approach I do. They are buying their sons Tinkerbell valentines and sparkly high heels.
I am actually wondering about giraffes. I'm sure I will have other questions.
Is it ok for my daughter to wear blue?
Little girls around the turn of the century wore blue because people believe it signified the virgin Mary's purity, so I bet soozy would be okay with it.