Post by beebeeeater on Jun 6, 2012 12:09:43 GMT -5
I don't think anyone takes issue with the SAHD part...it's the "we have a kid with issues, we have no money, and my H has wanted to work but been unable to get a job for two years" part.
So I see this more as a "critical family short of money situation", than a "man needs a job by all means situation" (aside from the man's flaws, which is another discussion).
I don't know, I think "fucking loser" is actually pretty kind when she essentially just said that people who have trouble getting pregnant are being told by God that they're not meant to be together. I'm standing by it... if it makes me a bitch, so be it. The more I think about what she's saying, the more generous I think I'm being.
And about the evee "pile-on" that inevitably occurs when she posts... The God-granted free will she's used not to quit her job and all this other stuff she's so proud of is the same one she could use not to post here.
I am somewhat of a lurker here and I might get flamed for this, but I have no problem accepting SAHDs. I know a few and it works well. These couples wanted to have a parent at home for the children and chose the most promising career to support and invest in.
And it happened to be the mums'.
But they have a solid financial plan in place and have money left at the end of the month and savings and a home and all the rest. Without being rich or spending money on silly "things", they are safe from financial difficulties.
I am not going to get in the "prayer" discussion, because I'm a spawn from the devil.
(and yes, I have followed the evee discussions back at TN)
So I see this more as a "critical family short of money situation", than a "man needs a job by all means situation" (aside from the man's flaws, which is another discussion).
I don't know if this makes any sense to you
Look, my H is a SAHD. This is not the issue here.
where in the world do you get that they have a solid financial plan in place? They have zero point zero savings.
"They" are my friends, not Evee & H. I was wondering why the overall advice was : your H needs a job (or two) as opposed to : you need to increase your income in any way possible
Evee, by your very own line of thinking, G-d could in fact be *punishing*you with a challenging son and a douchelord husband...or punishing them with you....
I don't know, I think "fucking loser" is actually pretty kind when she essentially just said that people who have trouble getting pregnant are being told by God that they're not meant to be together. I'm standing by it... if it makes me a bitch, so be it. The more I think about what she's saying, the more generous I think I'm being.
And about the evee "pile-on" that inevitably occurs when she posts... The God-granted free will she's used not to quit her job and all this other stuff she's so proud of is the same one she could use not to post here.
You're taking what I said completely out of context when I said H and I became pregnant on the first try. I don't look down on anyone who has issues become pregnant. And I do have pity for them as well. I'm saying that if God wanted it to happen then it will happen. Like the story of Sarah and Abraham. Abraham was one of the first people to ever be loved perfectly by God. And yet Sarah couldn't become pregnant until Abraham was 90.
Why did it happen. I don't know. Why did God want it to be that way, I don't know. I'm not God. I'm just a believer. I trust and obey. That is all.
where in the world do you get that they have a solid financial plan in place? They have zero point zero savings.
"They" are my friends, not Evee & H. I was wondering why the overall advice was : your H needs a job (or two) as opposed to : you need to increase your income in any way possible
Because the logical way to increase their income is for her H to get off his ass and work at night while she can be home with the kid. Unless you have that magical money tree my mom was always whining about...
Ugh. Look, I don't agree with Evee, either; and I think she's almost criminally naive in this regard, but can we stop with all the namecalling? It's giving me douchechills. She's not smart, she's clearly headed for some kind of crazy emotional shoot-out at some point when she realizes God is not going to force her husband to get a job -- she's got enough problems without everyone here calling her a fucking loser and telling her to go to hell.
I don't think anyone takes issue with the SAHD part...it's the "we have a kid with issues, we have no money, and my H has wanted to work but been unable to get a job for two years" part.
I agree. I have a feeling it's not that he can't get a job: it's that he can't get the job that he wants. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do. He can't get a job sweeping at Walmart or working at McDonalds?
1. Kohl's and JC Penney 2. This Christian believes in the power of prayer and that you can put your life in God's hands. However, He also gave us intelligence and ability to think through our decisions. And, He wants us to actively work at bettering our life by working hard for something. He doesn't want us to just sit around and wait for something to happen: he wants us to go make it happen. And He will be there the whole way, guiding us and giving us strength.
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Yes! I think there are times that God wants us to sit and wait on Him, but I doubt this is one of them.
I don't know, I think "fucking loser" is actually pretty kind when she essentially just said that people who have trouble getting pregnant are being told by God that they're not meant to be together. I'm standing by it... if it makes me a bitch, so be it. The more I think about what she's saying, the more generous I think I'm being.
And about the evee "pile-on" that inevitably occurs when she posts... The God-granted free will she's used not to quit her job and all this other stuff she's so proud of is the same one she could use not to post here.
You're taking what I said completely out of context when I said H and I became pregnant on the first try. I don't look down on anyone who has issues become pregnant. And I do have pity for them as well. I'm saying that if God wanted it to happen then it will happen. Like the story of Sarah and Abraham. Abraham was one of the first people to ever be loved perfectly by God. And yet Sarah couldn't become pregnant until Abraham was 90.
Why did it happen. I don't know. Why did God want it to be that way, I don't know. I'm not God. I'm just a believer. I trust and obey. That is all.
I'm fairly convinced now that Evee makes a lot of shit up, because she loves the response she gets. And I am choosing to believe this because it scares the fucking shit out of me that someone like her could possibly be responsible for a little one.
I don't know, I think "fucking loser" is actually pretty kind when she essentially just said that people who have trouble getting pregnant are being told by God that they're not meant to be together. I'm standing by it... if it makes me a bitch, so be it. The more I think about what she's saying, the more generous I think I'm being.
And about the evee "pile-on" that inevitably occurs when she posts... The God-granted free will she's used not to quit her job and all this other stuff she's so proud of is the same one she could use not to post here.
You're taking what I said completely out of context when I said H and I became pregnant on the first try. I don't look down on anyone who has issues become pregnant. And I do have pity for them as well. I'm saying that if God wanted it to happen then it will happen. Like the story of Sarah and Abraham. Abraham was one of the first people to ever be loved perfectly by God. And yet Sarah couldn't become pregnant until Abraham was 90.
Why did it happen. I don't know. Why did God want it to be that way, I don't know. I'm not God. I'm just a believer. I trust and obey. That is all.
I actually thought you couldn't make this any worse than it already was, but look you did! I can't even wrap my head around this line of thinking, so according to you god only wants certain people getting pregnant?
Infertiles don't need your pity, so you can just take that and shove it right up your ass.
I love when the LAST people God probably wants spreading His word are the ones who INSIST on doing it. You know He's sitting up there right now, smacking himself in the forehead going "Evee...for the love of Me... JUST STOP TALKING!"
Look guys, there are some things in this universe that will not change. For example:
1. Gravity
2. Death
3. Taxes
4. That Evee's just country, y'all.
Look. there are no words that either of us could write that would effecitvely convey to her that her financial situation is untenable, and that god forbid something happen to Evee, or if her son needed surgery, or the car died, or whatnot, that they would be so seriously fucked, and that THIS is the reason why her husband needs to get a night job and get his ass some training to get a real job. She doesn't get it. This is the same woman who while living with her parents (after moving out from living with this "hard working and dedicated parent" wanted to get LASER HAIR REMOVAL. She doesn't get it. She never will. The elevator stops between floors. So harping on her and calling her and her fantastic husband all these names is just getting us all angry for the shit of it. We might as well just go back to ignoring her. We'll all feel a lot better.
I would just like to say, that taking your kids to doctors' appointments and watching them at home is not a cause for celebration, or deserving of a medal. It's called fucking parenting.
Excellent point. A lot of us do that AND have jobs. The horror!
You're taking what I said completely out of context when I said H and I became pregnant on the first try. I don't look down on anyone who has issues become pregnant. And I do have pity for them as well. I'm saying that if God wanted it to happen then it will happen. Like the story of Sarah and Abraham. Abraham was one of the first people to ever be loved perfectly by God. And yet Sarah couldn't become pregnant until Abraham was 90.
evee, you are too dumb to know how dumb and insulting you're being here.
I thought you were leaving?
This.
Really ?are you saying people that can't have children due to health/infertility is because God does want them too? You sound really ignorant. Either you don't care are don't realize how many people you are insulting.
So we have all played a part in this. I guess what we should have done is just answer her question about cardigans and not ask about the conversation that she was going to have with her DH and how it went.
But did she really expect that we were going to forget and ask about it after she talked about it in length last Friday?
I think that if she had ignored all of those questions the cardigan post would have quietly faded away.
"Why would you ruin perfectly good peanuts by adding candy corn? That's like saying hey, I have these awesome nachos, guess I better add some dryer lint." - Nonny
I agree. I have a feeling it's not that he can't get a job: it's that he can't get the job that he wants. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do. He can't get a job sweeping at Walmart or working at McDonalds?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this man doesn't want any kind of job. It's not like he's sitting on an English degree and is holding out for a dream job teaching Arthurian literature at Oxford.
And I'm side eyeing the notion that taking a kid to two doctor's appointments is somehow the sign of being a kick ass provider. It's not as if having a job precludes one from taking their kid to the doctor.
I don't know, I think "fucking loser" is actually pretty kind when she essentially just said that people who have trouble getting pregnant are being told by God that they're not meant to be together. I'm standing by it... if it makes me a bitch, so be it. The more I think about what she's saying, the more generous I think I'm being.
And about the evee "pile-on" that inevitably occurs when she posts... The God-granted free will she's used not to quit her job and all this other stuff she's so proud of is the same one she could use not to post here.
You're taking what I said completely out of context when I said H and I became pregnant on the first try. I don't look down on anyone who has issues become pregnant. And I do have pity for them as well. I'm saying that if God wanted it to happen then it will happen. Like the story of Sarah and Abraham. Abraham was one of the first people to ever be loved perfectly by God. And yet Sarah couldn't become pregnant until Abraham was 90.
Why did it happen. I don't know. Why did God want it to be that way, I don't know. I'm not God. I'm just a believer. I trust and obey. That is all.
I agree. I have a feeling it's not that he can't get a job: it's that he can't get the job that he wants. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do. He can't get a job sweeping at Walmart or working at McDonalds?
That's kind of a stupid thing to say. I don't know this backstory. Is Mr. Evee educated? Then he may NOT be able to get such a job. Over qualification is real, and is an issue. Also, where do they live? Could be a tough market. I just hate it when the nest biddies think they've got everyone else's life in check. Did you know that no one on the nest has debt? No one has ever made a poor decision? Amazing!
we learned this LAST WEEK!
no education. was a bartender. apparently live in an area where many restaurants are newly opening (per other nesties.)
all of this god talk reminds me how there is an ocean of difference between being moved by something and understanding something. evee is moved by the story of abraham and sarah. she does not appear to understand that, for example, implying that it is god's will and destiny for them to marry when a rapist impregnates a woman, she has twisted the bible in a way that wounds many.
or, i guess what i could really say here is just ditto to everything tamb has said.
All I know is, the next time my mom gives me shit about my weight I'mma say that if God didn't want me to be a fatass he wouldn't have invented McDonald's.
God's will, supersized with special sauce bitches.
All I know is, the next time my mom gives me shit about my weight I'mma say that if God didn't want me to be a fatass he wouldn't have invented McDonald's.
God's will, supersized with special sauce bitches.
By any chance, are you into girls? Because I've got my eye on you now, chica!