You know, there's another solution here that hasn't been discussed - husbands can take the day off work and stay home with the kid. Since apparently people taking time off of work is less of a burden than an SAHM paying for child care, this should be an easy solution, right?
You know, there's another solution here that hasn't been discussed - husbands can take the day off work and stay home with the kid. Since apparently people taking time off of work is less of a burden than an SAHM paying for child care, this should be an easy solution, right?
Oh, you missed when I suggested that. "It's not as easy as just taking the day off", you know.
You know, there's another solution here that hasn't been discussed - husbands can take the day off work and stay home with the kid. Since apparently people taking time off of work is less of a burden than an SAHM paying for child care, this should be an easy solution, right?
This would be my family's first choice/option, especially if I was going in to request a deferment or just for jury selection at first.
I do think it was brought up in relation to legally a job is required to let you go to jury duty, but not necessarily to stay home with your kid while your SAH spouse does it.
I would think that being that pregnant would be the perfect time to have jury duty if you don't want to be on a jury. If you're close to delivering, then you're probably less likely to be selected. But if you show up and sit through voir dire before being excused, then bam! you've done jury duty for the next however-long.
Also, this is why juries have alternates. I have seen a lot of jury trials in my time, and they always select at least 13 jurors for a 12-person jury. I have seen up to 15 jurors selected for a longer trial. If pregnant woman goes into labor mid-trial, well, that's why you have extras.
You know, there's another solution here that hasn't been discussed - husbands can take the day off work and stay home with the kid. Since apparently people taking time off of work is less of a burden than an SAHM paying for child care, this should be an easy solution, right?
Oh, you missed when I suggested that. "It's not as easy as just taking the day off", you know.
I'm fairly certain absolutely every issue raised at this point has been discussed at least twice already in this thread but this thread is so long now that every point of discussion looks brand new to at least 12 people.
If this thread goes longer than the Olympic opening ceremonies thread, I will throw shit.
You know, there's another solution here that hasn't been discussed - husbands can take the day off work and stay home with the kid. Since apparently people taking time off of work is less of a burden than an SAHM paying for child care, this should be an easy solution, right?
Oh, you missed when I suggested that. "It's not as easy as just taking the day off", you know.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I love it. So to recap:
Paying $100 for childcare when one spouse makes $700 a week = hardship
Breadwinner takes day off so SAHM can go to jury duty saving couple $100 in child care but losing $100 = hardship
Dual income family losing $100 in lost pay while one spouse serves jury duty = Not a hardship.
Oh, you missed when I suggested that. "It's not as easy as just taking the day off", you know.
I'm fairly certain absolutely every issue raised at this point has been discussed at least twice already in this thread but this thread is so long now that every point of discussion looks brand new to at least 12 people.
If this thread goes longer than the Olympic opening ceremonies thread, I will throw shit.
Oh, you missed when I suggested that. "It's not as easy as just taking the day off", you know.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I love it. So to recap:
Paying $100 for childcare when one spouse makes $700 a week = hardship
Breadwinner takes day off so SAHM can go to jury duty saving couple $100 in child care but losing $100 = hardship
Dual income family losing $100 in lost pay while one spouse serves jury duty = Not a hardship.
YOU DON'T KNOW MY LYFE.
Just kidding, I would like to be called to jury duty to a) get a break, b) possibly get some use out of my law degree (even if it is only me making fellow jury members feel stupid), and c) people watch. I imagine the people watching and stories I would get from a jury selection and/or trial in TN would be completely amazing and entertaining. Probably also depressing, but that's okay.
I saw someone be excused from a sexual molestation case because she freaked out and said she worked with children and couldn't handle it. Â The attorneys seemed to try and get more out of her, but it ended with her basically yelling she thought all men were child molesters. Â She also threw some god talk in for good measure.
Personally, I was convinced she was playing at crazy to get excused because it was all over the place.
This reminds me of how after my first day clerking for a circuit court judge, I decided being a circuit court judge was the best job ever. Relatively low pressure, you got all the dirt on the people in your county AND you got to sit there and judge them and be the boss. It's like it was made for me. Damn kids. Ruining all my dreams.
Oh, you missed when I suggested that. "It's not as easy as just taking the day off", you know.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I love it. So to recap:
Paying $100 for childcare when one spouse makes $700 a week = hardship
Breadwinner takes day off so SAHM can go to jury duty saving couple $100 in child care but losing $100 = hardship
Dual income family losing $100 in lost pay while one spouse serves jury duty = Not a hardship.
I said "it's not as easy" because I was pointing out that your employer is legally required to give you the time off to serve jury duty, but your spouse's employer is not legally required to give them the day off for you to serve. That's all.
My lunch was not paid for when I served on a jury. That is not fair.
I did befriend a cute guy and a gay dude who sold furniture. The courthouse was around the corner from the National Art Gallery, so the three of us would go there eat lunch and look at art every day over our break. That was nice. Way better than work.
She was eligible for a second deferment though, if she had just shown up without the baby or with a caregiver for it. So it's not like they were like "tough luck, you will have to serve!" She just had to request her next deferment in person. Maybe that's too onerous, but IDK. I think that's reasonable enough that you have to go an extra step after your first deferment.
Okay but that's not really a deferment. Because you have to SHOW UP. So you're deferring, what? Voir dire. Sort of. You still have to talk to the judge. And, unless you defer to a specific date, you could come up again in six months or six years. So what do you do if the second time, you're out of the country, or at your father's funeral, or sitting for the boards exam... Again, this whole process is unnecessarily inefficient. It was like this in Cook County, too. So it's not like I think it's unusually bad. I just think this is an example of WHY this method of jury selection (summons, deferment, holding pen etc...) simply doesn't work.
Yeah, I wouldn't dispute that. The process is inefficient. In my county, we didn't do any phone/mail deferments, everyone had to show up for voir dire, where they could get an exemption (not a deferment, really, it took you off the list still, I think). But part of that was needing a certain number of people to show up for the jury pool and because the process was pretty archaic. There was really no system in place for keeping track of exemptions/deferments that were requested prior to the day you had to show up so they simply refused to do it and insisted everyone show up. There was no holding pen, though - but it was a small county court.
And I probably used the wrong word in my post above - it seems like she was eligible for a deferment the first time, and when that expired, she had to show up and get an exemption, not another deferment. So maybe that isn't so bad if you can request a delay first, and then once you do that, you would have to be exempted and to be exempted, you have to show up and make your case to the judge, which makes sense in the sense that it is better than a deferment...IDK.
My lunch was not paid for when I served on a jury. That is not fair.
I did befriend a cute guy and a gay dude who sold furniture. The courthouse was around the corner from the National Art Gallery, so the three of us would go there eat lunch and look at art every day over our break. That was nice. Way better than work.
My lunch wasn't paid for either, and the closest cultural landmark was the Piggly Wiggly.
Paying $100 for childcare when one spouse makes $700 a week = hardship
Breadwinner takes day off so SAHM can go to jury duty saving couple $100 in child care but losing $100 = hardship
Dual income family losing $100 in lost pay while one spouse serves jury duty = Not a hardship.
I said "it's not as easy" because I was pointing out that your employer is legally required to give you the time off to serve jury duty, but your spouse's employer is not legally required to give them the day off for you to serve. That's all.
That's fair but nobody complaining about their own personal hardships so far has said that their spouse is not allowed to take a day off for any reason and/or will be fired or reprimanded if he takes a day off to care for the kids due to a child care emergency. While many employers are stingy with time off, many aren't.
We paid for the jurors' lunches and if we had a trial it meant we got lunch too. It only kind of made up for dealing with all the complaints about jury duty and the crazy people.
Well, duh. You chose to work so, ergo, you should be happy to also serve on jury duty while she should be able to stay home with her preshus peanut and spend quality time with her all.the.time. We already send ours to DC so, obviously, we already prioritize the outside world so, duh. Did I hit all the tripe mommy wars incurs?
This is so phenomenally shitty and just dumb. Really?? I too was a working mom who had her kids in daycare and I still manage, some how, from some strange foreign place inside me, to recognize that a woman with a kid <1 year at home who is EBF, probably has her life organized in such a way that jury duty places her in a different position that it places me. Fair =/= same.
Focker out.
Who are you talking to and I am hoping you didn't take my post to be any more than TIC poking at sweetpea and her ridiculous DC is dirty and gross comment because if so, please read upthread to Pixy's quote and my then quoting her, quoting that foolishness.
If you realize it was TIC and that sweet pea whatever was a fool to post as she did, then ::braids hair::
Because getting a $600 paycheck instead of a $700 paycheck isn't the same as having to pay a (usually cash-only) babysitter WHEN YOU SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
Well, it is if your rent is $700, no?
Take out the fridge and, likely, it would be fine with $600 that month!